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If mena and bm are both town, town is fucked is all I can say.

In post 1797, iamausername wrote:

In post 1676, TheGoldenParadox wrote: work with me here. let's ignore the information from the flip itself because you're saying you actually pretty strongly believe in teacher!scum. can you explain your case on teacher!scum disregarding any information you'd get from a potential teacher!scum flip?

teacher exemplifies the scum sitting back and letting town tear each other apart. he is obviously keeping up with the game enough to be aware of who the major wagons are, and his thoughts on them always seem to be "i am aware of the case but i don't agree", and yet there is absolutely zero effort to push any alternatives.

he's also stated he thinks BM/Noraa is TvS without taking a stance on which is which or showing any particular effort to sort them

just in general there is little to no sign that he is doing anything to either a) push executions on players he thinks are scum or b) figure out who is scum.

i completely agree with this. iamausername, you are proving that quality is more important than quantity.

In post 1798, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1796, Menalque wrote:

In post 1794, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1792, Menalque wrote:ahh the irony

does this mean...what i think it means?

I have... no idea? what do you think it means?

this:

In post 1795, Menalque wrote:if you start pushing teacher again I'll start pushing shelly again

oh, no, it meant more that I can't believe that after all that that Taylor then decided to turn up and fucking vote shelly mostly to get the thing to stop when that had already stopped

sorry i had to do that for the memes.

but seriously

VOTE: teacher

noraa why are you being so obnoxious you're literally not even a newbie you have more total posts than i do and i was on a hiatus for like two years

at this point it's just "poor play" not "being a newbie" and i don't like it at all

In post 1802, Menalque wrote:

In post 1798, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1796, Menalque wrote:

In post 1794, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1792, Menalque wrote:ahh the irony

does this mean...what i think it means?

I have... no idea? what do you think it means?

this:

In post 1795, Menalque wrote:if you start pushing teacher again I'll start pushing shelly again

oh, no, it meant more that I can't believe that after all that that Taylor then decided to turn up and fucking vote shelly mostly to get the thing to stop when that had already stopped

i know mate, i was only kidding that it could be the catalyst for round 2!

in some other good news, i've overtaken Ico's post count. woop woop!

In post 1799, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1771, Menalque wrote:VOTE: noraa

ugh menal please go back on shelly nora is annoying but it's a policy lim at that point

nah, I think it's actually super super scummy that noraa is so avoidant here

I think her reasons for avoiding it are weak ("it's just her play style") and I think her saying "likely one scum in shelly/icon, but I don't think icon is happening today" combined with not voting there is scummy -- like if you really believe that you solve another slot by flipping one, you flip the one you can get and then work off that information. I think noraa has scum equity with shelly and even aside from that I don't think her reluctance to be involved here is from town (if she's not partners, I think she's just afraid of limping onto a town wagon late esp with BM calling her out for that so publicly)

and if she does flip scum, she gets me the cred I need to do shelly tomorrow

In post 1804, TheGoldenParadox wrote:noraa why are you being so obnoxious you're literally not even a newbie you have more total posts than i do and i was on a hiatus for like two years

at this point it's just "poor play" not "being a newbie" and i don't like it at all

don't attack my personality. Call it poor play if u want. I've played for a solid month and am carrying 6 games or something rn. I don't have zero experience definitely.
Dont call me obnoxious or annoying. that's rude.

LOL mena if the towncred to lim shelly tmrw is what ur after, limming me is not the way to go lel.

In post 1797, iamausername wrote:

In post 1676, TheGoldenParadox wrote: work with me here. let's ignore the information from the flip itself because you're saying you actually pretty strongly believe in teacher!scum. can you explain your case on teacher!scum disregarding any information you'd get from a potential teacher!scum flip?

teacher exemplifies the scum sitting back and letting town tear each other apart. he is obviously keeping up with the game enough to be aware of who the major wagons are, and his thoughts on them always seem to be "i am aware of the case but i don't agree", and yet there is absolutely zero effort to push any alternatives.

he's also stated he thinks BM/Noraa is TvS without taking a stance on which is which or showing any particular effort to sort them

just in general there is little to no sign that he is doing anything to either a) push executions on players he thinks are scum or b) figure out who is scum.

i really like this post for a couple reasons. it provides orders of magnitude better of a case on teacher than bm's previous case, and it feels really genuine from user's part. there are a million ways they could have simply deflected or been like "look at bm's post" and this provided a good explanation of their own reasoning. i appreciate it.

i'm not hating the case on teacher right now, but shelly seems so obviously scum to me that my vote will stay where it is.

@bm @menal are the votes on noraa serious and if so can you please explain them because i got a strong vibe of "nora is newbtown" especially from you menal?

and if your reluctance to vote a slot that would let you solve a dyad where you're supposedly confident scum is weren't so incredibly scummy, I'd be more worried about that

TGP check out 1806

in other news i'm reevaluating bm right now but it looks more and more to me like this entire exchange between bm and menal was tvt OR svs, and i don't believe it's the latter because menal is a pretty solid towered
menal for reasons i've outlined earlier and bm because i don't see this entire thing as a scum progression at all jumping onto noraa feels like a compromise rather than opportunistic wagon hopping

In post 1809, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1797, iamausername wrote:

In post 1676, TheGoldenParadox wrote: work with me here. let's ignore the information from the flip itself because you're saying you actually pretty strongly believe in teacher!scum. can you explain your case on teacher!scum disregarding any information you'd get from a potential teacher!scum flip?

teacher exemplifies the scum sitting back and letting town tear each other apart. he is obviously keeping up with the game enough to be aware of who the major wagons are, and his thoughts on them always seem to be "i am aware of the case but i don't agree", and yet there is absolutely zero effort to push any alternatives.

he's also stated he thinks BM/Noraa is TvS without taking a stance on which is which or showing any particular effort to sort them

just in general there is little to no sign that he is doing anything to either a) push executions on players he thinks are scum or b) figure out who is scum.

i really like this post for a couple reasons. it provides orders of magnitude better of a case on teacher than bm's previous case, and it feels really genuine from user's part. there are a million ways they could have simply deflected or been like "look at bm's post" and this provided a good explanation of their own reasoning. i appreciate it.

i'm not hating the case on teacher right now, but shelly seems so obviously scum to me that my vote will stay where it is.

@bm @menal are the votes on noraa serious and if so can you please explain them because i got a strong vibe of "nora is newbtown" especially from you menal?

not to underplay the iamausername case, which is high quality, but almost all of those points were also in my case. If you think there's an "orders of magnitude" difference, that confirms you haven't read them properly. You should put your personal feelings (real or feigned) aside in appraising cases to help you form or purport to form objective judgements.

Or you know you're full of it above, and just trolling me, in which case, well played.

#coachBM

On overall thoughts, I am happy elimming:

Teacher
TGP
Noora

Probably in that order of preference.

Noraas agreed to read up and give us her best attempt to define the alignment indicative stuff. Let's judge her on those reads.

Noora that post should be your priority as it could be your legacy to the game.

In post 1810, Menalque wrote:and if your reluctance to vote a slot that would let you solve a dyad where you're supposedly confident scum is weren't so incredibly scummy, I'd be more worried about that

jokes aside, what do you actually think about TGP alignment-wise?

In post 1814, Alonzo wrote:Noraas agreed to read up and give us her best attempt to define the alignment indicative stuff. Let's judge her on those reads.

Noora that post should be your priority as it could be your legacy to the game.

Ah I like how kindly this was stated as compared to other very rude posts. Ight I'll try to get it done today

In post 1813, Battle Mage wrote:On overall thoughts, I am happy elimming:

Teacher
TGP
Noora

Probably in that order of preference.

from my side this would be:

noraa
shelly
Taylor

also by order of preference

In post 1814, Alonzo wrote:Noraas agreed to read up and give us her best attempt to define the alignment indicative stuff. Let's judge her on those reads.

Noora that post should be your priority as it could be your legacy to the game.

eh fine, we back to doing teacher then?

VOTE: teacher

In post 1817, Menalque wrote:

In post 1813, Battle Mage wrote:On overall thoughts, I am happy elimming:

Teacher
TGP
Noora

Probably in that order of preference.

from my side this would be:

noraa
shelly
Taylor

also by order of preference

i dig it. i still wanna see that case on taylor from churros.

In post 1815, Battle Mage wrote:jokes aside, what do you actually think about TGP alignment-wise?

I think he's prob town unless he's scum who's been actively trying to pocket me

I think the latter is maybe slightly more likely if noraa!scum given the way he's engaging me on getting back onto shelly now I'm pushing for noraa, but I'm not really interested in paranoiaing about this before a flip

I don't really want to elim teacher but will hammer anyone at L-1 to end the day

In post 1821, Menalque wrote:I don't really want to elim teacher but will hammer anyone at L-1 to end the day

in which case I think teacher is basically at L-1 now then?

Claimtime boyo!

i mean effectively L-1 if you assume Menal will quickhammer.