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In post 1646, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 1582, petapan wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: jacksonvirgo

whole pileon onto menalque today is terrible

OMGUS, finally got to a position where you can seamlessly vote me eh?

calling this an omgus is really weird when your whole thing obviously started because i was expressing skepticism toward your catchup posts even if my vote wasn't there

I don’t really understand how not saying that you chose a memey number in part because it would be a single pick is lying/scummy. Isn’t that a given?

In post 1798, skitter30 wrote:I feel like scum dont usually pursue a tunnel from day-today like that, a night kinda serves as a reset and you need to be super committed to keep pushing that push all on your lonesome, when it keeps seeming like nobody else cares enough to join

I think scum arent that commited/focused and would have dropped it to pursue some other shiny object

I also disagree with this. It’s almost easier to push someone no one else is paying attention to because you don’t actually have to follow through and interact with a wagon in a nuanced way, no? ie how I tried to push pp in jk9++

In post 1750, Infinity 324 wrote:The soft was pretty obvious, what I'm wondering is how he knew it was a JK/rb. I thought it was cop tbh

Can you first point to the obvious soft

In post 1669, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 1668, Menalque wrote:

In post 1664, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 1663, Menalque wrote:

In post 1661, JacksonVirgo wrote:That makes you >rand scum my friend.

Yea but my role PM makes me infinitely >rand town so

*yawn*

^this is town after seeing a >rand scum try and make a stupid ass defense

Fixed it for you

these type of posts don't come from town

JV has been stuck on that one reason for scumreading peta for like 100 pages and none of peta’s other posts have influenced that read,


Okay I got a work call and lost my train of thought, idk how that was supposed to end. Something about being a thing I’d do as scum, I think.

skitter, why were you cool with revoting mena after I outed if you’re not townreading me?

Because my first thought was: yay guilty !!! That's easy!!!

But the more i thought about it, the more i realized that the result doesnt really match my perception of the gamestate at all.

It's like: i dont really townread you, and on the other end i'm not sure i scumread mena either

So from both sides it doesnt match what you're selling, so i'm feeling cautious

In post 1802, lilith2013 wrote:I also disagree with this. It’s almost easier to push someone no one else is paying attention to because you don’t actually have to follow through and interact with a wagon in a nuanced way, no? ie how I tried to push pp in jk9++

Idk in my experience i feel like i havent seen scum play it like that super often

Like why dont i townread you yet ????

In post 1717, Infinity 324 wrote:May be biased because I just finished a game where basically-confirmed-scum kept trying to pretend to gamesolve, but I don't agree with hoopla here. Some people are just tenacious.

that is basically what i did when i replaced into a slot in a newbie game with a tracker guilty on it, i think not throwing in the towel is just the expected play from a certain baseline level of competence but i don't find what he's saying scummy

hey peta want to join the TGP wagon?

not really. don't know why they're getting so scumread as they seemed fairly earnest to me. i might be soft for their particular archetype of derpiness, but.

In post 1296, TheGoldenParadox wrote:this probably isn't the time to start a dunnstral wagon. i'm fine eliminating in {infinity, hoopla, dgb}, but we can't no-elim.

or can we (?) idk but isn't this game at evens or something and odds are better?

In post 1349, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1346, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 1340, Menalque wrote:she’s always gonna be a liability

Lilith and Golden Paradox have fewer posts than the mod but OK

i

always

have fewer posts than the mod. it doesn't mean i haven't put a lot of content out. your play the last two pages has seemed very weird to me.

that being said, i don't buy dgb scum, and considering that i don't think she'd lie about being such a good townplayer, i'm not on board with eliminating her d1 under any circumstances. like come on, this is just a "eliminate the least charismatic player" (not an attack on you dgb, just that you have written off this game to an extent) and i don't buy this wagon at all. my vote will stay on infinity, and y'all should join me.

In post 1364, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1356, petapan wrote:

In post 1352, DrippingGoofball wrote:Oh there we go again with the "everything's fake" and not believing your lying eyes. You're gaslighting yourself.

Anyhoo it looks like I'm hammered.

I was town and choose PGO because I expected to be NK'd.

Adios amigos

VOTE: dgb

dgb, did you GET pgo?

In post 1369, TheGoldenParadox wrote:VOTE: dgb

sorry. no one else above you in the draft took vig, you chose the vig slot, and then took PGO? don't believe it, sorry

In post 1638, TheGoldenParadox wrote:VOTE: menal

These were all back to back in their ISO. This does not look natural at all.

i'm good with this elim today.

This also looks real bad, especially considering TGP's play has consisted of "Let's lynch Hoopla" who, as I said, hasn't been the focus of the game in terms of being pressured or wagon since I want to say roughly page 20-30.

The lack of willingness to engage with the wagons, only to jump on at the most opportunistic moment with no comments on either slot (DGB and now Mena) can't be ignored.

This doesn't seem like townplay to me. Even when TGP has been "against" the wagon, they've barely spoken about it and have only either voted someone else or voted on the wagon. There's no other interaction here. No information seeking or real attempts at reads outside of Hoopla

Also forgot to mention but assuming I'm right on this TGP thing, Daves is most likely town.

Ok idk where it went but after the first four quotes I was meant to say "these are all back to back posts in TGPs ISO. What is the trajectory here?'

In post 1740, JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait how did Dunnstral know that Mena was blocked?

Dunn noticed that Lilith voted immediately and inferred there was a guilty. He didn't know or say at that time what kind of guilty. I noticed it too but stayed quiet, the only reason we know Dunn noticed it is that he commented / voted.

In post 1725, Menalque wrote:I'm just saying that if I were scum, I would be successfully anti-spewing

So you would just give up?

In post 1816, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1725, Menalque wrote:I'm just saying that if I were scum, I would be successfully anti-spewing

So you would just give up?

where did I say that?

oh, we mean different things by "anti-spew"

Agree with uncrowned's analysis

And ya it was kinda easy to assume that lilith was insinuating a quasi guilty with her first vote

In post 1775, JacksonVirgo wrote:I can't find it anywhere. I'll link some bois

1454 - The only wall I can find on them, which is weird since I SWEAR I made one.

64 - Their initial response to the quesitom.
593 - Is where I initially called them out.
601 - Their cheap ass response to that and then discrediting me for it.
615 - Compare the tone around this post in their iso to the rest of the game.

This is just from the top of my head as I'm still super tired from hospital

could you respond to this please peta, specifically why didn't you engage in your 615 at all?

In post 1813, Uncrowned wrote:his also looks real bad, especially considering TGP's play has consisted of "Let's lynch Hoopla" who, as I said, hasn't been the focus of the game in terms of being pressured or wagon since I want to say roughly page 20-30.

The lack of willingness to engage with the wagons, only to jump on at the most opportunistic moment with no comments on either slot (DGB and now Mena) can't be ignored.

This doesn't seem like townplay to me. Even when TGP has been "against" the wagon, they've barely spoken about it and have only either voted someone else or voted on the wagon. There's no other interaction here. No information seeking or real attempts at reads outside of Hoopla

Also forgot to mention but assuming I'm right on this TGP thing, Daves is most likely town.

their whole handwringing spiel about not wanting to vote out a likely PR is not good play but seems like a sincerely held belief? although i guess it dovetails with them pushing hoopla/pp conspiracy theories a little neatly but that might be wishful thinking on their part? but i guess it's concerning that they aren't really trying to those players. reversal on dgb ain't great the more i look at it i suppose

In post 1729, Hoopla wrote:i don't like these kind of ultimatums.

the town would never agree to it, so this is all just bluster designed to emotionally manipulate.

Agree with the first half, disagree with the second. I don't like it because it's lazy, asking everyone else to do extra work so you might not have to work. In this case it's kind of a futile request because I feel like the choice is only between killing Menalque today and killing Menalque in a few days. (For the record, Menalque is a strong player as town and it's not outside the realm of possibility for him to have been attacked, but I do agree it's unlikely.)

I don't think it's designed to emotionally manipulate, in part because I saw him profess similar emotions as town in the game he linked, and in part because it seems like it would only manipulate people into being more annoyed with him.

In post 1820, Menalque wrote:

In post 1775, JacksonVirgo wrote:I can't find it anywhere. I'll link some bois

1454 - The only wall I can find on them, which is weird since I SWEAR I made one.

64 - Their initial response to the quesitom.
593 - Is where I initially called them out.
601 - Their cheap ass response to that and then discrediting me for it.
615 - Compare the tone around this post in their iso to the rest of the game.

This is just from the top of my head as I'm still super tired from hospital

could you respond to this please peta, specifically why didn't you engage in your 615 at all?

because the argument being made was fucking stupid

In post 1818, Menalque wrote:oh, we mean different things by "anti-spew"

I guess. I thought mine was the established definition: you're a lost cause, so shut up so you don't give anything else away.

What did you mean?