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In post 1791, Hopkirk wrote:The issue is this
If Taylor is town and thinks you're scum then the actual order would be

Taylor-Pooky-One of Taylor's townreads

That's a shit bargain for Taylor. If she dies she absolutely wants to be in the middle.

Like nobody would EVER accept that because it's literally the worst possible outcome except for hitting 3 town since she dies and the mafia get the effective nightkill. It's far superior for her to kill someone she scumreads with the first slot. I especially don't get why you think Taylor as a player would like the deal based on the personality read I'm forming around her. What you SHOULD be asking her is whether she'd accept Pooky-Taylor-X since that's a deal town would consider taking. Choosing not to make that deal ensures she'll never take it as either alignment.

You're also definitely overestimating your game impact.

In post 1690, Bell wrote:I never see posts like the one fidget just made come from town. Ever.
Why do I have so many scum reads this game.

In post 1797, Theta Alpine wrote:

In post 1790, shellyc wrote:

In post 1787, Theta Alpine wrote:ooh i really like that list from hopkirk

Bell you're inconsistent simply because making TRs is not equaling to pocketing. If you want to call everyone that TRs hopkirk as scum, SR this.

what
how does liking a list someone makes equate to me townreading them

In post 1786, UNOwen wrote:

In post 1776, shellyc wrote:

In post 1770, UNOwen wrote:Like think it is townie - yes
Actually follow the logic and agree with it - ????

as i said before im not a great fan of spelling out all my trajectories and instead prefer to keep that to my notes pt

but i do follow the logic and im not sure how you aren't able to see that????

So you are saying that you noticed post 101 and thought it was a town tell.
You noticed that Isis town read Theta and assumed it was because of the town tell, and think that was itself a town tell of Isis
You think that at the point where I was mildly suspicious of Isis but not to the point of actually raising it I would have noticed these things and dismissed my suspicions of Isis because of it.
And that I would make all these connections but not have known that in the skellytrumpet post there is a sample role pm which disproves all of this theorising?

In post 1798, Hopkirk wrote:So we're shooting X-Y-Noraa. Who do you want to be X (and Y if relevant). We need to decide on who's first shot, and as many trustable voices helping me sort is really useful.

In post 1798, Hopkirk wrote:So we're shooting X-Y-Noraa.

In post 1800, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1791, Hopkirk wrote:The issue is this
If Taylor is town and thinks you're scum then the actual order would be

Taylor-Pooky-One of Taylor's townreads

That's a shit bargain for Taylor. If she dies she absolutely wants to be in the middle.

Like nobody would EVER accept that because it's literally the worst possible outcome except for hitting 3 town since she dies and the mafia get the effective nightkill. It's far superior for her to kill someone she scumreads with the first slot. I especially don't get why you think Taylor as a player would like the deal based on the personality read I'm forming around her. What you SHOULD be asking her is whether she'd accept Pooky-Taylor-X since that's a deal town would consider taking. Choosing not to make that deal ensures she'll never take it as either alignment.

You're also definitely overestimating your game impact.

X is already fixed at Noraa

I might be over-estimating game impact sure.

In post 1809, Bell wrote:Yeah, you’ll need to explain the nuance in how it’s not fair that I’m not applying ShellyC only reads To people not named shellyC.

In post 1810, shellyc wrote:why does the sample role pm even matter towards all this logic

In post 1804, Bell wrote:@hopkirk: just did.

In post 1806, Bell wrote:If you don’t specifically ask me to sheep you, I probably won’t sheep you,

In post 1808, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1798, Hopkirk wrote:So we're shooting X-Y-Noraa. Who do you want to be X (and Y if relevant). We need to decide on who's first shot, and as many trustable voices helping me sort is really useful.

is 3rd scroll fixed at Noraa or not? you seem to be one foot each world right now Hopkirk

In post 1811, MURDERCAT wrote: I guess so but I don't see why my logic is bad? Like there is a good chance of T>S>T here.

In post 1811, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 1798, Hopkirk wrote:So we're shooting X-Y-Noraa.

I guess so but I don't see why my logic is bad? Like there is a good chance of T>S>T here.

In post 1812, Hopkirk wrote:I think I see your issue.
Imagine town Taylor looking at the scenario. Let's say she 95% scumreads you and 95% TRs Lady.

If she gets the lethal
Taylor-Pooky-Lady (as scum you does NOT shoot Noraa)

If you get the lethal
Pooky-Taylor-Noraa

Why does she even take option 1?

Would you be happy with Pooky lethal, scroll to Taylor who insta passed to Lady? From town Taylor's perspective it's literally this and that's not a good trade.
Really want you to comment a yes/no on the above point.

In post 1818, Bell wrote:Not really. You’re kind of like somebody who wants to control the game but I don’t respond well to what you’re doing. So I’m tactfully side stepping you.

In post 1817, UNOwen wrote:

In post 1811, MURDERCAT wrote: I guess so but I don't see why my logic is bad? Like there is a good chance of T>S>T here.

Your logic gets stronger the bigger the chance of Noraa town.

In post 1819, Hopkirk wrote:

In post 1811, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 1798, Hopkirk wrote:So we're shooting X-Y-Noraa.

I guess so but I don't see why my logic is bad? Like there is a good chance of T>S>T here.

Who do you want to lethal first right now?