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i mean I think I've made fun of the zwets all VT game to him before and I think there was enough shared understanding it was gross that he wouldn't do that.

Neither previous SS has been bastard on that level

I don't think he's done that to me but he might have.

The worst is probably a setup where there was a town where Hectic hadn't realized the town didn't technically have a majority d1 and the non town non mafia people didn't have an incentive to vote out mafia (although the mafia kind of did, because I at least realized instantly at least one mafia must be some form of traitor)

Hopkirk, is Hectic not yet on the "traitors are awful" train, cause I am willing to be the conductor.

I saw Hectic role traitor in a pretty sketchy setup so maybe that cured him, don't know if that particular setup was run before or after

This was ages ago.
He seems to be a big fan of Donnie Brasco mafia as of a few weeks ago so probably not.

Can this be a Donnie Brasco game? or does that require nonVTs

hammer to be safe:
VOTE: hectic

In post 1793, Isis wrote:

In post 1668, Flea The Magician wrote:OK meds taken, brain still foggy, body still achey, and for some reason my internal monologue went brain still FWWWWOOOOGGGGYYY! and now all I can picture the Big the Cat, or Gatto El Grande as he's also known lol

nuuuu
On brainfoggy day I do not see how Big the Cat is the feline that is helpful

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I recommend Gato

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Gato will make you a lullaby!

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In post 1785, Flea The Magician wrote:Can't we vote no lim?

i believe this is something that would generally be mentioned in the rules if so, which it is not, but i will do so to see. however, i don't think anyone else should because this one would definitely be reflected in the vote count if possible.

VOTE: no launch

The other question if this is the case, for those more experienced than I, would we benefit from this at all?

In post 1808, Flea The Magician wrote:The other question if this is the case, for those more experienced than I, would we benefit from this at all?

i think it's mostly only beneficial here if everyone is a vanilla town. which seems very unlikely to me, so, i don't think so.

In post 1795, Isis wrote:

In post 1701, team rocket queen wrote:

In post 1699, Flea The Magician wrote:I didn't see that bit you quoted, so then I would assume that vanilla in terms of power means there's no outward abilities, such as cops or docs but potentially linked abilities or something that trades something for something else. for example the bodyguard role which dies when the target is killed.

I don't feel there's any way for a mechanical guilty to happen at all having seen that.

i think it means that there is no player given the role 'cop' but there is still plenty of ways for there to be a mechanical guilty. there were mechanical innocents in that game i really don't see how you are ruling out the possibility of mechanical guilties here.

You're right that nothing keeps a game with surprise midgame events from having mechanical guilties.
It probably doesn't have mechanical guilties though, because this was posted not too long before or after this game was designed

In post 1, Hectic wrote:100% agree. I also dislike the use of regular cops, I don't think it's particularly rewarding when scum is caught with an inescapable guilty.

I think mechanical innocents are likely to make a comeback though.

i was thinking along the lines of a more complicated version of the mafia decisions made post first elimination in menagerie due to there probably being an additional member of the mafia. not too dissimilar to the mafia decisions made in gacha mafia, either, though triggered differently here of course.

mechanical innocents seem more likely to me as well, of course. i don't know if i would expect flea to expect thegoldenparadox to consider this, though.

if this was a game with evil hectic-mod against 13 VTs.

i would expect we need every vote on hectic to actually slay the monster

the vote count is a lie because Hectic will do anything to save himself.

i mean he does have 2 co-mods...

we should elim-test them next if a unanimous wagon on hectic fails

perhaps this is one of those games where you have to elim the guardians before the main boss becomes vulnerable.

anything could happen

honestly i’m down

yeah hectic does like undertale. I've tried to fight the main boss in the opening room by just like spinning around for thirty minutes but they make you fight all of the other ones first

what’re they gonna do kill us??

VOTE: Lend

I'd say more but sitting down is kind of painful at the moment because isis is a meanie

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Anyways vote the main freak mod

i mean we should do the full unanimous vote on hectic first to test that.

then start voting out the co-mods.

let's get it wrapped up so we can go back to playing the game if we're wrong.

the mods are the royalty above us peasants

kill the royals

seize the castle

eat the fooood

ooo wait a moment...

It could be like the final Lavos fight, you don't fight the main core, you fight one of the support bits!
Destroy left bit, Lavos Core lowers its defenses.

Right Bit resurrects Lavos Core and Bits.

We need to hit the supports! Hectics been hammered, if this doesn't work we need to speedwagon the comods!

In post 1799, Hopkirk wrote:I could see Hectic running a game that's initially all VT.
Then we vote two people out.
Then they want revenge and pick scum or something.

Yeah there’s no mid game alignment changes though.

I want to trust my instincts enough to say that the fact that I have a shit ton of strong townreads means something about the setup, but I can’t think of anything that makes sense.