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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:28 pm
by Noraa
In post 1795, unwnd wrote:From what I understand you think I'm town for the read and then maybe like Insano? Is that correct?
I think ur town bc u have a specific solve and u remind me of cakes large normal.
but then I ISO'ed u earlier today and the way nopo just disappeared outta ur solve made me freak out and question all my sorting abilities.
Don't have a read on Insano.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:29 pm
by Andresvmb
I might have had a stronger sense that someone was Scum, or think that a different course of action is more likely to result in a Town victory. This isn’t like black and white.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:29 pm
by Noraa
In post 1801, Andresvmb wrote:I might have had a stronger sense that someone was Scum, or think that a different course of action is more likely to result in a Town victory. This isn’t like black and white.
ur pretty defensive.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:31 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 1802, Noraa wrote: In post 1801, Andresvmb wrote:I might have had a stronger sense that someone was Scum, or think that a different course of action is more likely to result in a Town victory. This isn’t like black and white.
ur pretty defensive.
I’m not defensive. I feel some shame in my level of play this game and want to make sure we don’t make another mistake.
What I see that you’re doing is Scummy though. You’re interpreting all of my responses in the worst possible way.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:35 pm
by Noraa
OMGUS
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:35 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 1733, Insanoflex wrote:I don't necessarily blame you for misreading him, Noraa, because he didn't do anything, you just have to learn that sometimes people not doing much doesn't make him scum. The way he outed was +town though.
...the mafia killed
johnny
?? The literal only reason I could see for that is that one of the claimed PRs is a fakeclaiming goon, or one of the unclaimed players is a mafia PR who doesn't want to claim a PR. Even if I thought he was unlikely scum with nopoint based on their interactions, killing him over a conftown role is
bizarre
.
Frankly this is on point.
Alright my POE is {Insano, shellyc/Noraa, geraintm}. I would exclude unwnd I think nopoint and unwnd don’t make sense as a Team. Mind you, I could be wrong. I also think Insano has good reasons to doubt me and maybe I’m just being self-conscious.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:36 pm
by Andresvmb
Just so you know, OMGUS isn’t a defense for anything. And it’s not even alignment indicative.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:36 pm
by Noraa
This seems like a good vote
VOTE: Andresvmb
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:37 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 1767, unwnd wrote: In post 842, nopointinactingup wrote:Andres is the only voice of reason in this game. Most of FL's argument is predicated on the fact that he's town and therefore not really reliable. I also don't trust any of his reads, unwd and me are both town.
Amazing stuff
I wouldn’t let a Partner btw tie themselves so obviously to me. It would be kind of stupid. But whatever I am not going to spend too much time with stuff like this.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:38 pm
by Andresvmb
@plus, when I flip Town, and I will, shoot Noraa. Flavor was right. And I’m right about this one.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:40 pm
by Noraa
this is some good flailing :O
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:40 pm
by Noraa
its making me reconsider a tiny tiny bit
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:41 pm
by Andresvmb
I’m not flailing. And your play is sad. You have stopped trying to find Scum and are doing your best to try and bury me. Maybe you’ll get away with it and I’ll be executed. But if you’re not shot you should be executed tomorrow.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:42 pm
by unwnd
In post 1799, Noraa wrote: In post 1795, unwnd wrote:From what I understand you think I'm town for the read and then maybe like Insano? Is that correct?
I think ur town bc u have a specific solve and u remind me of cakes large normal.
but then I ISO'ed u earlier today and the way nopo just disappeared outta ur solve made me freak out and question all my sorting abilities.
Don't have a read on Insano.
I was pretty much deflated in regards to the responses given when I was trying to sort him early D1, and then the game flatlined literally. I don't believe in the 3/3 herosolve nature and I don't really think you should either, it's just added stress and a false perception to overly exceed. Gamestates shouldn't be at the enjoyment of yourself, most often my reads are based on priority. I would like you to sort in that same fashion and I'll try to explain what I mean if you're willing to read it
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:45 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 1750, PlusJOYED wrote:oh actually uwnd could be scum too
I think we have a lot of clears at least now
Unless the plan was to distance from the beginning, I can’t see how nopoint/unwnd makes sense as a Team. And I think unwnd was actually genuinely lost for stretches and trying to figure stuff out. Yeah I’ve been wrong a lot but I really don’t see how unwnd makes sense as part of the Team.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:48 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1754, Insanoflex wrote:For what it's worth, I should disclose that Johnny neighborized me before he died, their hood was basically inactive, they greeted each other but didn't say much otherwise, nopoint didn't put any reads there so there isn't anything to learn from it.
Do think the unwnd/nopoint interactions day 1 are less likely to be s/s.
OK, so it's confirmed that you're a power role. I'm leaning town then
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:49 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 1754, Insanoflex wrote:For what it's worth, I should disclose that Johnny neighborized me before he died, their hood was basically inactive, they greeted each other but didn't say much otherwise, nopoint didn't put any reads there so there isn't anything to learn from it.
Do think the unwnd/nopoint interactions day 1 are less likely to be s/s.
Yeah... okay Insano you’re making a lot of sense actually.
Alright Insano is probably Town, and I’m just bad haha for what it’s worth.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:52 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1779, unwnd wrote:Do you agree with me that there's likely scum on Nopoint's wagon?
I do
Yesterday I argued that it would be better to shoot nopoint instead of eliminating them
The idea behind that was that they were claiming watcher enabler, and even if mafia had a watcher, it was functionally useless (since the town all claimed)
But we bulldozed an elim on them anyway. it worked out in the end, but I don't think it was optimal play, and I don't think scum cared about anything but looking good
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:53 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1787, Noraa wrote:I don't even believe that strongly in Dunn town with his literal 5 posts or something.
NM is super underwhelming this game and so I'm just like ... uh.
78 actually
Also this setup isn't balanced for town power wise if I'm not town
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:54 pm
by Andresvmb
VOTE: Noraa
I’m not so sure about geraintm - I think the play there has been shocking, and the post I quoted is a bit of a red flag. But the way Noraa has decided to pile on me today is too obvious for me not to call it out. I do think it might be valuable to maybe force this 1v1 to some extent only to make it more obvious for the future.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:56 pm
by Dunnstral
After I saw the flip yesterday and examined during the night I was thinking Geraintm was likely to be scum
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:57 pm
by Andresvmb
Also, if Noraa is Scum, Flavor is always Town. Just to make it more obvious. I think shellyc went for the pocket attempt there, as well as with me to a lesser extent. I bought it until the beginning of D2, and shellyc’s exit from the game confused me for a bit. I think Noraa as part of any solve makes sense.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:58 pm
by Noraa
yes pls my town play is shit. pls help.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:59 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 1820, Dunnstral wrote:After I saw the flip yesterday and examined during the night I was thinking Geraintm was likely to be scum
Well good we agree about that.
Also, just so you know, I would have definitely pushed to execute a player that was Confirmed Town. Like you or plus would most likely be dead if I was Scum. It narrows the pool too much not to have you guys NK’ed. So that I don’t understand. That’s also why I think Insano is Town - I think the surprise at the choice of NK is justified.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:01 pm
by Noraa
is it a problem? scum!me doesn't pile on like this ever.