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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:39 am
by humaneatingmonkey
This is Cook's Role PM. So maybe, Cook forgot to add in the partner info? That sucks.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:42 am
by VFP
Yeah that makes it a lot harder, for Osuka at least.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:43 am
by VFP
In post 1784, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I know what gave away my Masonhood. What made you think Uma was Masons with me?

i know this is very personal, but osuka sucked this game. not only as a player, but as a person. honestly, re-evaluate your playstyle and attitude toward others. personal attacks should have no place in mafia.
I cant remember actually.
It may have been day 2 when I pushed Uma and you were against it.
Plus PoE

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:17 am
by Cook
In post 1798, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1774, Cook wrote:Welcome! You are a Mafia Informed Traitor Personal Rolestopper.

• Use your social deception skills and your vote to further the Mafia's goals.
• Your Mafia partners are XXXX and XXXX.
As you are a Traitor, your partners know you exist, but not who you are. You will not be granted access to the Mafia Private Topic. The Mafia's kill will work on you normally — you cannot be recruited.
• At night you may send me the name of a player.
• Any actions taken against your chosen target that are not factional will fail.
• You are in addition informed of the following:
Your partners have the roles Role Cop and Informed Fruit Vendor. There is one Doctor in the game.

You win once the Mafia reach an unopposable voting majority.
If you are the last remaining Mafia member, you will surrender and the Mafia will lose.
The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.
that role PM had the names of the mafia in it, i had these ready for filling in in the mod PT

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:18 am
by osuka
In post 1794, humaneatingmonkey wrote:that's surprising that you weren't even given information about who your partners were
i only got their roles, not who they were

i knew there was a mafia fruit vendor, that's why i knew bugspray was scum

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:19 am
by osuka
the "XXXX" wasn't censored just on the flip, that's verbatim how i got that role pm

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:22 am
by humaneatingmonkey
huh...

you and cook are disagreeing here so maybe that's something you should work out with him

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:23 am
by Cook
WELL.

I APPEAR TO HAVE MADE A MOD ERROR.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:24 am
by Cook
as a result this implementation of traitor was technically non-normal

i apologize profusely, osuka, bugspray, and vfp

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:25 am
by humaneatingmonkey
wow, this is a misgame

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:26 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1807, Cook wrote:WELL.

I APPEAR TO HAVE MADE A MOD ERROR.
have you checked your sent messages?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:36 am
by VFP
I'm not sure the execution changes too much, other than Osuka having better knowledge.
It would have been better if Ivy and Human didn't know each other were masons imo though!

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:37 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1811, VFP wrote:It would have been better if Ivy and Human didn't know each other were masons imo though!
hahahahahaha

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:56 am
by Cook
if i were to rerun this:

masons would be neighbors instead

traitor would actually get proper role PM

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:58 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Why was there a need for a traitor, anyway?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:01 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Anyway Cook, I'll be honest, I'm bummed out with the way you handled this game. Not just the mishandling of osuka's role PM, but with the neglect of vote counts. I appreciate that you're taking your time to run this game, but your players are also mentally and emotionally invested in the game. We would have appreciated a greater degree of attentiveness. I hope you can consider what I say and hope you improve as a mod for your next game.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:11 am
by VFP
I agree with Human, its not negative feedback, and I wouldn't mod on this site myself and I appreciate the effort that goes into these.
But I think a more common VC is key.
I'm not a player who likes to lie about my role after a hammer, but I had trouble making sure it was a hammer and not a fake hammer.

Again, not negative, just take it into the next game you mod. :)

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:18 am
by Cook
In post 1814, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Why was there a need for a traitor, anyway?
balancing a 12 player setup with 3 scum. 2:10 is a 1:5 scum:town, but 2.5:9 is 1:3 where one of those 1's is weak.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:19 am
by Cook
In post 1815, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Anyway Cook, I'll be honest, I'm bummed out with the way you handled this game. Not just the mishandling of osuka's role PM, but with the neglect of vote counts. I appreciate that you're taking your time to run this game, but your players are also mentally and emotionally invested in the game. We would have appreciated a greater degree of attentiveness. I hope you can consider what I say and hope you improve as a mod for your next game.
In post 1816, VFP wrote:I agree with Human, its not negative feedback, and I wouldn't mod on this site myself and I appreciate the effort that goes into these.
But I think a more common VC is key.
I'm not a player who likes to lie about my role after a hammer, but I had trouble making sure it was a hammer and not a fake hammer.

Again, not negative, just take it into the next game you mod. :)
Thanks for feedback. Solo modding's tough and I'd prefer to do it with an active backup, or just AS an active backup.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:37 am
by humaneatingmonkey
A backup mod is great!

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:59 am
by VFP
Personally I love traitors being in a game. I just hate being scum when it is so.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:01 am
by geraintm
This was the first time I've ever played in a game with a traitor.
It made zero difference to me.

I assumed back up mods were a given?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:14 pm
by Ivyeo
GGs everyone, shame about the misgame though :/
Also fine with the Mason thread being public, as I said in it

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:41 pm
by osuka
yeah what the fuck this was so much harder than it shouldve been

angery

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:41 pm
by osuka
i guess thats my dumbass' fault for not realizing i shouldve gotten mafia identities as the traitor