In post 1793, Tanner wrote:interesting. either the answers really are random, or being a criminal isn't about alignment.
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That's one of the reasons I haven't bothered asking questions, I assumed it was going to be BS.
lol i thought i was scum to you?
WOW you're really hell bent on finding fault with everything I say.
I assumed that the yin/yang stuff was going to be a red herring, this has nothing to do with your alignment. Regardless of your alignment, I can agree with things you say.
No? There seems to be a consensus building with Ircher/Infinity/Nakata and some players are itching to swing the hammer.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:33 pm
by Tanner
and the three wagons are on like 3/3/4 votes and scum could easily swing an elimination somewhere? so like unless there are multiple sxum in me/ydra/norwee, scum could probably swing the yeet omto infinity, so the fact that that is not happening is telling
Flea, Amy and Ircher aren't even voting.
Nakata is wasting his vote on Morning Tweet.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:50 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I figured it out.
The scum win condition is for the day to end in no elimination.
If we make an elimination we win.
That’s why Ircher isn’t voting!
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:00 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3, Hectic wrote:If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.
except that's not possible but I really like the way your mind works norwee <3
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:04 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Well it was worth an consideration.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:50 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 1802, Tanner wrote:and the three wagons are on like 3/3/4 votes and scum could easily swing an elimination somewhere? so like unless there are multiple sxum in me/ydra/norwee, scum could probably swing the yeet omto infinity, so the fact that that is not happening is telling
Eh, maybe. I dont think scum is guaranteed to play that way but could see it
i think it's definitely telling that scum has little sway over the wagons though, you've prolly got that right. There's no strong push anywhere.. it might be cause they don't care, it might be cause they can't do anything about it
/Infinity/Nakata
- There is scum in: Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There is scum in Pooky's votes before post 981: Chara/Tanner/Morning Tweet/Ydrasse
- There is scum in Amy's votes before post 1289: Chara/Ircher/Nakata
- There is either 0 or maximum 1 scum in: Amy/Robert/Tanner
- There are no scum in: Ydrasse/Amy/Ircher
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
According to Yin:
- There is criminal(s) in:
Ircher
/Infinity/Nakata
- There is criminal(s) in: Norwee/Pooky/Chara
- There is criminal(s) in:
Tanner
/
Ydrasse
/
Ircher
- There is criminal(s) in:
Ydrasse
/
Amy
/clidd/Infinity/Morning
- There is criminal(s) in Pooky's votes before post 981: Chara/
Tanner
/Morning/
Ydrasse
- There is criminal(s) in Amy's votes before post 1289: Chara/
Ircher
/Nakata
- There is either 0 or maximum 1 criminal in:
Amy
/
Robert
/
Tanner
- There are no criminals in: Ydrasse/Amy/Ircher
- There are 4 criminals in total. (286)
- There are 3 factions (Repeated twice)
- Yang is not an criminal.
What is the meaning of "criminal" anyway? Maybe it's actually saying that from Yin's perspective they are "criminals", but Yin is on the side of bad and therefore he is actually referring to town?
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:09 pm
by Tanner
i was thinking of a somewhat similar situation in a game i played a while ago. when the deadline plurality was approaching with s/t wagons, the game was insanely active. the next day, with t/t wagons, the game was really quiet approaching deadline. i know it's not necessarily the same situation, and this is a hectic game so god knows what is actually happening, but the fact that the game seems very resigned to infinity/nakata wagons is not giving me any good feelings about their yeets.
i still think the ircher/infinity/nakata pool is wrong, is there any other reason they are grouped together?
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:27 pm
by Morning Tweet
I think the game not seeming to give a care between the wagons is indicative of something but not necessarily that we're wrong...
And I'm not sure who I'd rather vote to sentence outside of that group rn. I want more info first before figuring that out.
As for what a criminal is, I'm guessing it's not related to alignment but it is a true trait about some of us. I don't think Yin has lied.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:32 pm
by Morning Tweet
unofficial VC 2
3 >>
Ircher:
PookyTheMagicalBear, Robert M Hunter, Morning Tweet
3 >>
Satoru Nakata:
Infinity 324, Chara, clidd
3 >>
Infinity 324:
Tanner, Ydrasse, NorwegianboyEE
1 >>
Morning Tweet:
Satoru Nakata
3 >> Not Voting: Ircher, Flea The Magician, Amy Dunne
It takes 7 to sentence.
The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-07 18:10:20). If there is no majority, plurality decides.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:39 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1813, Tanner wrote:i was thinking of a somewhat similar situation in a game i played a while ago. when the deadline plurality was approaching with s/t wagons, the game was insanely active. the next day, with t/t wagons, the game was really quiet approaching deadline. i know it's not necessarily the same situation, and this is a hectic game so god knows what is actually happening, but the fact that the game seems very resigned to infinity/nakata wagons is not giving me any good feelings about their yeets.
i still think the ircher/infinity/nakata pool is wrong, is there any other reason they are grouped together?
in that game we just finished the game didnt care about who to kill between Kerset/Cakes cuz they were both baddies.
Let's just yeet someone and see what they flip as
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:41 pm
by Morning Tweet
Flea and Ircher literally never vote so that might play into the lack of wagons getting places. Ircher wants..... Robert(?) and Flea hasn't expressed much with scumreads or the wagoned players as far as I know.
Amy i think is town and has been gone a while but is mostly on Ircher.
If anything, there's a lot of resistance to Ircher i think his wagon has spawned a ton of counterwagons because Nakata/Infinity were like "Ircher is town" and then everybody else was like "Oh they're probably spewing Ircher as town then".
If anything i almost want to say if Ircher were town he'd be dead by now cause i think scum could pick up my arguments pretty easily. Instead the Nakata and Infinity wagons are being very sticky (especially the former)
I'm actually kinda unsure what is going on if Ircher is town. That would definitely imply town in Nakata/Infinity (like Tanner's been saying). Hopefully not the case. But this makes enough sense to me if Ircher's scum.
am i crazy or nah? If there's scum in Nakata/Infinity but not Ircher, why is Ircher not dead. It'd be so easy.
And I think the sort of apathy is stemming from nonvoters and most of the town probably going "???????" back and forth between all the options rn. Not so sure it's caused by scum not caring about any of the options. maybe?
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:43 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 1817, Morning Tweet wrote:If anything i almost want to say if Ircher were town he'd be dead by now cause i think scum could pick up my arguments pretty easily.
not like, me specifically. I just mean the type of stuff i'm saying is scummy about ircher would be pretty easy to elim him for. Instead we've got "I don't see why Ircher does this as scum", "People are spewing him as town", etc. Not that those arguments are inherently bad or coming from scum but MMMMMMMMMMMMM
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:52 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I think if we wagoned scum we’re probably just never getting them limmed because nobody has the balls too.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:53 pm
by Morning Tweet
Oo apathy could save a scumpartner as well since if you don't vote/change vote and leave the wagons tied, who knows wtf is gonna happen plurality-wise at deadline. I forgot we don't need majority for a sec there. I still think if there's a traditional scum we're hunting, we've found at least one...
Plus i mean, ircher/nakata/infy all being innocent would be a real bummer. But in any case i dont think this gamestate explicitly implies it. Unless maybe there's no traditional scumteam to hunt... then maybe
High in the sky, bright white silhouettes against a sea of black. The full moon, a clear pool of shimmering silver. A cheeky smile under the brim of a shining white top hat.
"Ladies and gentlemen!" A voice, giddy with the thrill of something beginning, cries out for attention.
"In my line of work, I know better than most that nothing is what it appears to be. A friendly grin hides a waiting knife. A poker face hides true intentions. Pretty words create a dazzling distraction." The man, clad all in white, is standing in thin air. A finger goes to his lips, signaling a secret gladly kept.
"And a thief, a thief creates opportunity where there is none. Walking the line between black and white, balancing both in each hand. The moon only shines so brightly thanks to the warm dark of the night."
"I'm no common robber, shrouded in black clothing, hiding in the shadows. I come to you... what's that? Kaito KID? No, my name is Yin."
A white dove sits on pavement illuminated by stars and streetlamps. She does not move. On approach, it can be seen that her white feathers are marred with red. She holds one wing close to her and does not move it, but her eyes are on you.
The street is strangely quiet tonight. The road shines with the remnants of a recent rain.
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The thief knows the stone is hidden somewhere here. And not just the stone. Equal and opposite in every way, it's sister sleeps with it. Sleeps down deep, deep, deep, in the depths of the ocean, falling, falling, falling.
But the time of day doesn't matter to the creatures in the ocean's depths. In the deep ocean, the bathypelagic zone, sunlight cannot find her way in. Time passes in the world above, and the world below is oblivious.
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The last flavourtext Yin posted piqued my interest, so i wanted to see if there was clues earlier in the story as to what is about to happen. Not from what i can tell though.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:55 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I actually have a really wild theory do you want to hear it tweetie
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:55 pm
by Morning Tweet
absolutely!
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:56 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
yeeees
someone is interested in my delusional ranting wooohoo