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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:44 am
by Nero Cain
I mean, I was never in a corner. But I am getting pushed so I'm going to defend myself.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:45 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1797, redtea wrote:Sewing chaos and confusion for the sake of it
im not doing that. lol

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:54 am
by redtea
it's about the lack of active town participation before this point but go ahead frame it how you want

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:14 am
by Nero Cain
????

I was plenty active and playing the game. I'm only getting wagoned b/c the opportunity was there.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:31 pm
by Dragon of the West
Sorry Nero, my heart's not really in a Kyo lim. Like there are some things from their iso I don't like but it's not enough. I think Gamma is where I feel most strongly about rn VOTE: Gamma

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:35 pm
by Nero Cain
meh

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:13 pm
by redtea
1 day and 16 hours (not a countdown tag)

i mean i could elim gamma today, would others be down?
i know marashu has him in his poe, kyouko and dwlee may be interested
thor hasn't even mentioned gamma by name, so i don't know his thoughts.
nero and robert don't seem to have an inkling of suspicion but maybe they do for all I know

so me, dragon, marashu, kyouko, dwlee, that's 5. that's an elimination.
if i really can't convince yall to vote nero, we can do gamma

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:16 pm
by Dwlee99
I'd be cool with getting Kyo into a claim maybe?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:39 pm
by Marashu
If nero's not happening, I'm ok with gamma. VOTE: Gamma

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:01 pm
by Cook
vc 1.3
Nero Cain (2):
redtea, ssbm_Kyouko
ssbm_Kyouko (2):
Nero Cain, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2):
Dragon of the West, Marashu

Robert M Hunter (1):
Thor Ragnarok

With 9 alive it takes 5 to majority.
(expired on 2021-09-08 12:45:52) remains.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:05 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 1792, Thor Ragnarok wrote:Can we have a gentlemen's/ladies agreement from scum to avoid shooting town and try and exterminate scum first and foremost? There's no agency when you could be shot by any scum in the mix, so aim for the other scum with killing power before you kill innocent townies like cyrus.
Is this an example of pointless information instead of analysis?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:06 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 1807, Dwlee99 wrote:I'd be cool with getting Kyo into a claim maybe?
What is the strategy behind this request?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:19 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 1806, redtea wrote:nero and robert don't seem to have an inkling of suspicion but maybe they do for all I know
My (very limited) observations are that suspicions and wagons often ignite and grow in a stochastic way. Players talk each other into scum reading or town reading certain players and the scum is happy to lend a hand if the mod lands on a townie, or if they feel it might be advantageous to throw their partner under the bus. Gamma has been very good at providing a steady stream of unambiguous opinions. He is putting himself forward, scum reading some players that are widely town read (if Gamma was scum, he could easily go with the flow and not rock the boat).

I find that he is rocking the boat a lot, maybe that is the reason why others find him scummy? I'm probably wrong, we'll see after the game, but my gut tells me that rocking the boat is something that town will want to do, not scum. I haven't had the opportunity to play town much myself, so take it with a grain of salt.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:21 pm
by Cook
(expired on 2021-09-08 12:45:52) remain on the deadline.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:24 pm
by redtea
In post 1812, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 1806, redtea wrote:nero and robert don't seem to have an inkling of suspicion but maybe they do for all I know
My (very limited) observations are that suspicions and wagons often ignite and grow in a stochastic way. Players talk each other into scum reading or town reading certain players and the scum is happy to lend a hand if the mod lands on a townie, or if they feel it might be advantageous to throw their partner under the bus. Gamma has been very good at providing a steady stream of unambiguous opinions. He is putting himself forward, scum reading some players that are widely town read (if Gamma was scum, he could easily go with the flow and not rock the boat).

I find that he is rocking the boat a lot, maybe that is the reason why others find him scummy? I'm probably wrong, we'll see after the game, but my gut tells me that rocking the boat is something that town will want to do, not scum. I haven't had the opportunity to play town much myself, so take it with a grain of salt.
Well there's likely two scum left, it's not out-of-the-question that one is "rocking the boat" and one is going along with it. A good scumteam does both imo

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:24 pm
by redtea
*one is going along with whatever

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:25 pm
by redtea
let's goooooooo

VOTE: gamma emerald

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:54 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I don’t mind getting eliminated at some point but why not kyouko?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:42 pm
by redtea
because i don't want to

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:24 pm
by redtea
night hoursssss

/not a pt slip

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:29 pm
by Thor Ragnarok
I have basically no thoughts on Gamma but I prefer him over Kyouko as well

VOTE: Marashu

Unless someone wants to start something cheeky?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:30 pm
by Thor Ragnarok
In post 1741, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1739, Thor Ragnarok wrote:If there's a serial killer I'd like them to make their presence known so that we can work with them. I think it's fair to leave each other alive and share a joint win in the end if we can kill all the other scum.

Come forth please, you won't regret it.
SK doesn't joint win -_-
That's up to the player in question. If they are honourable it's certainly feasible to coordinate a joint win. I promise to not betray the SK and vote them out if they come forward.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:14 pm
by Nero Cain
this is annoying
In post 1779, redtea wrote:/not a pt slip
In post 1819, redtea wrote:/not a pt slip

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:49 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 1102, Nero Cain wrote:tbh gamma always feels like scum. His play seems similarish enough to LN 235 that I'm not so gung ho about Gamma being scum this game.
In post 1248, Nero Cain wrote:He's been lowkey useless but he was also lowkey useless in our last game so it could just be a null thing.
He, like most players, will have a similar playstyle regardless of alignment. It's possible that he's scum and I just haven't felt he was super scummy or anything.
In post 1817, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t mind getting eliminated at some point but why not kyouko?
could maybe make the argument that this is reverse psychology, idk.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:51 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1811, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 1807, Dwlee99 wrote:I'd be cool with getting Kyo into a claim maybe?
What is the strategy behind this request?
If scum locked in claim is bad for them