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I do enjoy reading Greek.

Especially when it's written in English.

In post 1799, Dwlee99 wrote:I've seen odd-night strongman and a traffic analyst with a traitor which is weaker to me than anything with a roleblocker

That's a fair point.

TheZenMan - lock town for being first to claim 1-shot bp in the hood which A50 confirmed.

Save The Dragons - I can't read this slot. Seems townish? But paranoia is hitting me

Three - lean town, seems solvy and I like his thought processes

T3 - not sure what to make of his claim; I expected him to claim blocked again today and the fact he outed a result was unexpected. Not today's lim, though. I want his TA results regardless of alignment. Then his flip will confirm them or wind up being a waste of time... but flipping him before getting those results is +scum if he does flip town.

Jacket - scum

Dwlee99 - lean town

HawaiianPizza - lean scum, not seeing why they're being townread. I don't see malicious intent, but I don't see solving.

UNVOTE:

In post 1796, Dwlee99 wrote:STD or House pick a person to start the popcorn

In post 1797, House wrote:Jacket.

Vanilla Town. Was somewhat obvious given I wasn't concerned about getting vigged by redtea.

Pass to STD.

Why do you think I'm scum, House?

VT

Pass to hawaiian pizza

In post 1804, Jacket wrote:Why do you think I'm scum, House?

See? Popcorn method is SO MUCH better because it leads to stuff like this!

I did not like your behavior during/after the A50 wagon.

Sure, I was on the wrong side of that disagreement, but you weren't exactly doing much to actively prevent the lim outside of saying you don't think he's scum (1 time, in 1593), then scolding us after the fact (1743).

Nothing to do with the claiming, but okay.

I was actively protesting up until hammer by saying I didn't think the theories made sense. Granted, I was wrong about cookie, so it's not like I was much better. But cookie was actively lending supporting to killing multiple obvious town in almost50 an redtea who never made any sense as being part of a balanced setup. cookie may as well have been the 4th member of the mafia with the way fae was playing.

You deserve to be scolded for that vote if you're town. I'm not apologizing. If you want to let your emotions rule your decision-making, go ahead.

Should have proofread that post, bunch of errors that make it look like shit.

In post 1808, Jacket wrote:Should have proofread that post, bunch of errors that make it look like shit.

I'm in no position to criticize anyone for typos, lol.

In post 1807, Jacket wrote:Nothing to do with the claiming, but okay.

I was actively protesting up until hammer by saying I didn't think the theories made sense. Granted, I was wrong about cookie, so it's not like I was much better. But cookie was actively lending supporting to killing multiple obvious town in almost50 an redtea who never made any sense as being part of a balanced setup. cookie may as well have been the 4th member of the mafia with the way fae was playing.

You deserve to be scolded for that vote if you're town. I'm not apologizing. If you want to let your emotions rule your decision-making, go ahead.

Popcorn method informed you of my read on you, lead you to ask me why, and here we are.

This wouldn't have happened if we had followed some arbitrary list.

Also, for all your shade on cookie during the A50 wagon... .

How are you supposed to exert influence when your vote doesn't match your push? That doesn't happen.

It didn't look to me during my overnight review that you wanted it to.

That doesn't even make sense. I still think T3's claim made sense for scum, and the way he's acted is scummy. Didn't like the way he jumped on my fua read. Felt like scum trying to a town's incorrect read.

I could be wrong, though.


This sounds less like any reason to think I'm scum and more punishing me for not playing the game the way you want.

It's been clear since day 1 you've been attacking me mostly for not liking my style.

In post 1811, Jacket wrote:That doesn't even make sense. I still think T3's claim made sense for scum, and the way he's acted is scummy. Didn't like the way he jumped on my fua read. Felt like scum trying to a town's incorrect read.

I could be wrong, though.


This sounds less like any reason to think I'm scum and more punishing me for not playing the game the way you want.

It makes perfect sense.

Your vote is your most powerful weapon during the day.

You wasted it by pushing a different player.

Your vote on T3 was powerless because you were shading cool cookie instead of pushing T3.

Your shade of cool cookie was impotent because you weren't backing it up with your vote.

Again, that means at most that I played the game badly, in your interpretation. It isn't any actual reason I'm scum.

I could spam the thread up or caps lock rage or any number of things if I wanted to. That's not how I want to play the game, and if people want to do dumb shit anyway, that's on them.

Throwing shade on town while avoiding being on a mislim & scolding town after the fact is pretty much textbook scum play, mon frere.

Wasting your vote by shading a different player reduces the chances the wagon actually shifts, because once town starts second guessing the narrative, officiality goes out the window.

In post 1816, House wrote:Throwing shade on town while avoiding being on a mislim & scolding town after the fact is pretty much textbook scum play, mon frere.

Wasting your vote by shading a different player reduces the chances the wagon actually shifts, because once town starts second guessing the narrative, predictability* goes out the window.

EBWOP

In post 1816, House wrote:Throwing shade on town while avoiding being on a mislim & scolding town after the fact is pretty much textbook scum play, mon frere.

I mean, the town I was scumreading is dead. Not sure how that works.

If you are town who voted Almost50 you played badly, and if you chain that into voting me - because I disagreed with you and didn't play the game the way you want to, you are continuing to play badly. In my opinion. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote you in retaliation.

What I predict is going to happen is: after claims, I will vote the person I think is most likely to be mafia. Hopefully I'll be correct, so I can say I did at least one thing right this game. You will vote me, because I upset you for criticizing the A50 vote. Town will lose, and then you will blame me for playing in a way you disagree with.

Of course, if you're scum, hats off to you for playing this way. But I doubt it.

In post 1818, Jacket wrote:I mean, the town I was scumreading is dead. Not sure how that works.

Not by elimination, so you're free of accountability for that loss.

But don't think for a second that I'm not aware that all the shade you threw on cookie didn't influence red tea, who most likely shot cookie instead of following through with confirming Three because he knew cookie was not a likely lim candidate (for good reason).

Your hands are not clean.

In post 1819, Jacket wrote:Hopefully I'll be correct, so I can say I did at least one thing right this game.

I would love for that to happen, and happily eat crow.

I'm just not seeing you as town, here.

In post 1821, House wrote:

In post 1818, Jacket wrote:I mean, the town I was scumreading is dead. Not sure how that works.

Not by elimination, so you're free of accountability for that loss.

But don't think for a second that I'm not aware that all the shade you threw on cookie didn't influence red tea, who most likely shot cookie instead of following through with confirming Three because he knew cookie was not a likely lim candidate (for good reason).

Your hands are not clean.

I'm not pretending I am, by any means. I acknowledge my culpability there. I got into conspiracy theory territory, because I didn't like the pushes cool cookie was making. I definitely lost sight of things. I felt the way cookie was playing was like a traitor who was drawing attention to themself and wasting town's energy while aggressively attacking town and pushing mis-eliminations. Felt like fae was trying to hijack the game. Which I guess was true, they just happened to be town anyway.

If you want to say I should have seen cool cookie was towny in spite of being aggressively wrong, feel free to do so. I probably should have considered that. I don't think I was fair to them. There's probably a takeaway there. I'll have to think about it.

I don't pretend to be perfect. I've made mistakes this game. Part of the game is that you're going to be wrong as town. Some of that is just how you figure stuff out. The Almost50 wagon just felt egregious to me.

I don't know, maybe I should have just shut up about it, but I still have feelings about the game.