It doesn’t really feel like you have much of an agenda, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns
This is weak T3.
Sakura can be town so maybe she'll perk up since I no longer need to interact with her.
The fun part is you don’t have to, when I struggle to keep up in a game I don’t worry about reading stuff I’m missing
Just keeping up with key events is rlly enough
I'm bad at that too...
@CW really my biggest beef with you earlier is the fact you pigeonholed my slot to fit your theory, rather than engaging me like I'm my own player with my own personality which informs my actions. Not to mention blatantly ignoring my concerns. It's okay to engage with the surface-level AND figure if something's going on underneath and what, but it felt like you just kept blowing me off.
I feel that my motivations and/or lack thereof came through in my ISO, which was my point.
Can you elaborate more? I have dyslexia so sometimes I misunderstand things. Thanks.
Sorry
What I mean is: it felt like you only considered the parts of me that fit with a haphazard narrative (having to do with Datisi being scum, if I remember correctly).
The conclusions you made regarding me did not seem like they incorporated the context of my actions, words, or tone, at all.
There was no effort made to see things from a town!me perspective. It was assumed that either I'm town and dumb or I'm scum.
I put my motivations in clear view. I put my concern for town in clear view. There are clearly players other than myself who are struggling to keep up. That, in my point of view, is the opposite of beneficial to town. It's a very valid concern that got demonized without good faith engagement.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:49 pm
by Cheeky Wings
In post 1753, GrandpaMo wrote:hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol
Oh that explains it. It seems like 1/5 of the playerlist hasn’t posted, so I was wondering.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:50 pm
by ratmans
I'll get back to you on thoughts about other players after I catch up but I can't promise they'll be great
In post 1796, Deimos27 wrote:I'm not tr'ing CheekyWings. They (or more specifically, Nancy I think?) remind me of scum!Noraa with just the avalanche of AtE spew and self-meta.
But people seem to concur that for their meta it's indeed town-ai?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m nothing like Noraa, so comparing me to her is pointless. None of that is scum indicative for me. At the wirst, it’s nia to town indicative.
The fun part is you don’t have to, when I struggle to keep up in a game I don’t worry about reading stuff I’m missing
Just keeping up with key events is rlly enough
I'm bad at that too...
@CW really my biggest beef with you earlier is the fact you pigeonholed my slot to fit your theory, rather than engaging me like I'm my own player with my own personality which informs my actions. Not to mention blatantly ignoring my concerns. It's okay to engage with the surface-level AND figure if something's going on underneath and what, but it felt like you just kept blowing me off.
I feel that my motivations and/or lack thereof came through in my ISO, which was my point.
Can you elaborate more? I have dyslexia so sometimes I misunderstand things. Thanks.
Sorry
What I mean is: it felt like you only considered the parts of me that fit with a haphazard narrative (having to do with Datisi being scum, if I remember correctly).
The conclusions you made regarding me did not seem like they incorporated the context of my actions, words, or tone, at all.
There was no effort made to see things from a town!me perspective. It was assumed that either I'm town and dumb or I'm scum.
I put my motivations in clear view. I put my concern for town in clear view. There are clearly players other than myself who are struggling to keep up. That, in my point of view, is the opposite of beneficial to town. It's a very valid concern that got demonized without good faith engagement.
It’s possible. I get really pissed when I’m wrongly sr, so I just react. And I know I said I was obvtown here but that’s 100% based off of my play and meta. I’m just too damned lazy to effort like this as scum. I’m really trying hard to to solve this game and it’s jusr extremely frustrating that I continue to be doubted.
In post 1523, Datisi wrote:it only now occurred to me this could theoretically be a scum role that gets more powerful if people townread her. oh well.
It sounds protown to me. In my previous RC uPick, Mastina had an obvscum role: a role that only killed town in duels.
I don't see how this counters Datisi's point. It's not town vs. antitown, but rather town!Sakura with an ability that grows in power vs. scum!Sakura with an ability that grows in power.
In post 1541, Cheeky Wings wrote:But why would he post that knowing you would recognize it? He’s enough of an experienced player to know toog could still change his mind.
Experience doesn't make one infallible.
In post 1597, Cheeky Wings wrote:And rat the super genious scumhunter that would give Sherlock Holmes a run for his money - NOT - was doing his damndest to get me run up today.
Aren't they still doing that? Or am I misremembering?
In post 1599, jjh927 wrote:Rat reads as someone who is not paying much attention to the gamestate which is +town
This is a bad take.
In post 1633, Gamma Emerald wrote:this is nice but I still wanna try to drag queen into the game tyvm
In post 1647, Cheeky Wings wrote:Alright then why aren’t you voting either instead of some nia lurker?
I'm trying to pull content out of the slot by voting it, DUH.
No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.
In post 1482, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.
Ratmans and Queen town if Gamma scum.
~C
Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.
In post 1690, T3 wrote:, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns
I've reconsidered. It seems doubtful scum decides faking not knowing the game started. Like, it isn't impossible, but it also feels a poor strategy because it will get them poed down the road.
In post 1788, Deimos27 wrote:I have been up about 40h straight with just one 3h nap in the middle of the day because my college is sadistic, so facts are definitely something I might be prone to getting wrong atm
Are you able to pull up the post whose content and author you mistook?
This is not good. A healthy sleep schedule will make your life better in all ways.
In post 1523, Datisi wrote:it only now occurred to me this could theoretically be a scum role that gets more powerful if people townread her. oh well.
It sounds protown to me. In my previous RC uPick, Mastina had an obvscum role: a role that only killed town in duels.
I don't see how this counters Datisi's point. It's not town vs. antitown, but rather town!Sakura with an ability that grows in power vs. scum!Sakura with an ability that grows in power.
In post 1541, Cheeky Wings wrote:But why would he post that knowing you would recognize it? He’s enough of an experienced player to know toog could still change his mind.
Experience doesn't make one infallible.
In post 1597, Cheeky Wings wrote:And rat the super genious scumhunter that would give Sherlock Holmes a run for his money - NOT - was doing his damndest to get me run up today.
Aren't they still doing that? Or am I misremembering?
In post 1599, jjh927 wrote:Rat reads as someone who is not paying much attention to the gamestate which is +town
This is a bad take.
In post 1633, Gamma Emerald wrote:this is nice but I still wanna try to drag queen into the game tyvm
In post 1647, Cheeky Wings wrote:Alright then why aren’t you voting either instead of some nia lurker?
I'm trying to pull content out of the slot by voting it, DUH.
No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.
In post 1482, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.
Ratmans and Queen town if Gamma scum.
~C
Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.
In post 1690, T3 wrote:, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns
I've reconsidered. It seems doubtful scum decides faking not knowing the game started. Like, it isn't impossible, but it also feels a poor strategy because it will get them poed down the road.
In post 1788, Deimos27 wrote:I have been up about 40h straight with just one 3h nap in the middle of the day because my college is sadistic, so facts are definitely something I might be prone to getting wrong atm
Are you able to pull up the post whose content and author you mistook?
This is not good. A healthy sleep schedule will make your life better in all ways.
My point was that Mastina accuratately claimed a proscum role as a negative utility but RC said at the end of that game, that he would never design a town role that scumsided.
Anyway, I don’t see why you think rat is scum. It seems he really wants me to understand where he’s coming from and that reads protown to me since scum do their damndest to avoid being understood.
In post 1753, GrandpaMo wrote:hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol
Is this a town slip?
~C
I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra
RC announcing pregame scum got their role PMs early makes it a little more Indicative here imo.
~C
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:43 pm
by Cheeky Wings
Ircher, I mean it’s possible since I was the cw in that case.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:44 pm
by Cheeky Wings
In post 1812, Ircher wrote:Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.
In post 1753, GrandpaMo wrote:hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol
Is this a town slip?
~C
I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra
Uh, what? If you’re talking about how Nancy didn’t post for a couple days at the start she was not really active online at all during that time, so not entirely comparable
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:30 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1812, Ircher wrote:No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.
We have 11 days remaining and some people want to end the day already. So your critique falls flat, we have plenty of time to use.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:34 pm
by Queen
Sakura Hana Is My Confirmed Town Read
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:35 pm
by Queen
Sakura Dear Whose Face Would You Like Removed
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:37 pm
by Datisi
ircher, can you make one of those fancy percentage read lists again
