The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

Ok...

Can we kill BenMage now?

[SpyreX]

Fair enough.

I'd love the rationale for RB'ing you from Sociopath BUT as it sits back to benmage lynching now.

[Benmage]

Hey SocioPath

I'm pretty sure BenMage knows your role name.

??

Wow so much crazy claims. SP is claiming RB. Plum is claiming day-talk mason....because w/e info she got must've occurred overnight....

Spy pot-guy
milk-copcurer
SB-miller(os)
tubby hider

Geeeze.

DGB is still the best option.

Can anyone other than vollkan or VP state why they're voting/think i'm scummy?

[SpyreX]

Thats some excellent role hunting that most definitely shouldn't be answered regardless.

I think I've made my stance pretty clear even if I am a spooky ghostthing right now.

[LlamaFluff]

unvote

You guys need to stop playing the "take the game in a new direction whenever llama has stuff to do" game.

So...

Tubby claims to of hid behind milk. To believe this we need to believe that milk is really town, which goes against a read but will play along with for now due to...

Plum claims that Tubby is what he claims, so tubby and milk are town. But then...

Ben claims that Plum cant know anything because he roleblocked her.

So player A claims that player B is town, player C supports player A while player D says player C cant know anything about player A.

this game....

[Benmage]

No, SP claimed RB.

[SpyreX]

Not Ben, but Sociopath.

Otherwise, yea.

Except for you missed:

A states that the info was gotten from E which means D isn't on solid ground with A being a liars.

[SocioPath]

So you roleblocked Plum?

OMG ROLE FISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, yes.

Oh, now you make some sense. My info comes courtesy of an action taken by someone who was apparently not roleblocked. This info is shared between us. I personally did not attempt an active action last Night.

This is the kind of thing I would have loved to hear prior to claiming RBer, and yet you waited, and gleefully share that information now. I guess you had to change your claim a little bit to shy away from anything conveniently active.

[Papa Zito]

Hai guys.

Did you know RBers can be scum?

True story.

[Plum]

So you roleblocked Plum?

OMG ROLE FISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, yes.

Oh, now you make some sense. My info comes courtesy of an action taken by someone who was apparently not roleblocked. This info is shared between us. I personally did not attempt an active action last Night.

This is the kind of thing I would have loved to hear prior to claiming RBer, and yet you waited, and gleefully share that information now. I guess you had to change your claim a little bit to shy away from anything conveniently active.

I had no idea you blocked me and I wanted to avoid outing more than I already had; when it became clear that you had a reasonably reason to doubt that I could have the info I claimed to have I told you more about how my role worked which explained how I had that info despite being RB'd. There was no "glee" involved. I never felt the need to change my claim and have told only the truth. If I feel necessary this can be confirmed by someone other than myself pretty easily. I don't feel that at this point it is, however.

[LlamaFluff]

So if we just concentrate on part A of the equation, we have the most information then correct?

Tubby claims fact Z
Plum supports fact Z based on action @ (out of keys so sue me)
SP denies Plum support of Z based on action #

Fact Z is in question which is "Is tubby and by association milk town".

Im going to ask something that should of been asked.

@SP - Do you block only one type of action (ie active) or do you block passive and special. Ask that. Come back. We had this problem already

[LlamaFluff]

And bastard... my fix it gets ninja killed

[SpyreX]

@Zito:

Ohh hells yea the RB claim isn't TOWN TM but the timing and everything else doesn't make sense unless Plum AND Tubby were scum together which then doesn't make sense because of the derail.

So, yea.

[milkshake]

Oh, now you make some sense. My info comes courtesy of an action taken by someone who was apparently not roleblocked. This info is shared between us. I personally did not attempt an active action last Night.

And everyone lived happily ever after, huh?

[Plum]

Llama, I performed no active action last night. Thus any Roleblock on me achieved nothing. The action which gave me the info was taken by someone else and the info made known to me passively.

[SocioPath]

@SP - Do you block only one type of action (ie active) or do you block passive and special. Ask that. Come back. We had this problem already

Given the nature, I'd say active and specials such as spy's case, but I'll ask for your sake.

[stark]

I am so close to tears because of this game.

Plum, please help us connect the dots.

How can you drop this, and expect us all to go on our merry way?

[Sajin]

Oh this game.

@Plum- Is sociopath scum? Why did you not say this before when you attempted to confirm someone else? I want to know your thought process here.

[Plum]

Oh this game.

@Plum- Is sociopath scum? Why did you not say this before when you attempted to confirm someone else? I want to know your thought process here.

It's possible Sociopath is a non-Town RB. Right now I'm inclined to believe that he's Town and thought he caught scum in a lie. He did not, but with the info that was apparently available to him at the time it makes sense.

My thought process was: I have information about Tubby. Tubby has looked scummy since Day 1, is being considered by some for the lynch, and my info has not revealed his alignment to me. So why don't I test to see whether he lies about the info about him at my disposal? It would also be nice if I avoid giving out info about my abilities and role before that's necessary, so I'll be a bit cryptic. Especially considering the weird Rolename, it's worth testing to see whether Tubby will lie and prove himself scum or not.

Then he claimed his Rolename truthfully and claimed a believable role.

I am so close to tears because of this game.

Plum, please help us connect the dots.

How can you drop this, and expect us all to go on our merry way?

It's fairly simple. Someone else took an action last night which revealed the info about Tubby. This information was automatically shared with me and this player - straight from the Mod's mouth - as a passive function of our roles. Because this player was not roleblocked the action was successul.

[stark]

I understand that, but the problem is that


Accurate role information =/= not scum


If you're waiting to see whether he lies or not, you're going to be waiting a long time.

From how he's played so far, what makes you think he'll volunteer any information not under pressure?

[milkshake]

Heh- oops, when I made my last post I was on the bottom of page 73 without realizing there was a 74!

Accurate role information =/= not scum

The Happy Hoppy Fuzzy Bunny is scum?

That's so evil it could be true. But the hide mechanic wouldn't make any sense on scum (scum self-sacrificing third-party finder!). It makes sense that he would target me, too, since I'm claimed (and not a miller claim!...)

[stark]

Heh- oops, when I made my last post I was on the bottom of page 73 without realizing there was a 74!

Accurate role information =/= not scum

The Happy Hoppy Fuzzy Bunny is scum?

That's so evil it could be true. But the hide mechanic wouldn't make any sense on scum (scum self-sacrificing third-party finder!). It makes sense that he would target me, too, since I'm claimed (and not a miller claim!...)

The role name is confirmed.

Maybe I mis-read, but the role itself is not.

[SerialClergyman]

@SC:

Say you touch someone, and copy their power.

If you really like it, can you just hang on to it for the rest of the game?

catching up on my phone, expect a couple of small posts. In answer to this, no. I either use it the next night or lose it.

[SerialClergyman]

I remember earlier in this thread a plucky, intelligent lad with classically handsome good looks and an air of competence suggested a massclaim, whichwould have been a freaking excellent idea but was cruelly shouted down by a chimp-like group of people who didn't have the smarts to follow his vision...

So totally into the massclaim.

Aside from that, even if sp is a scum roleblocked, what's the point in coming forward? Best case scenario is he's beliEved, plum is lynched and found to be town and his neck is in the noose before we've had a coffee tomorrow morning.

If tubby was fake claiming, why would he use anaccurate role name?

Plums claim here is the biggest stretch, but with zero motivation as scum to do that apart from a big gambit with tubby, I'm not keen on that theory either. I'm liking the benmage lynch more and more.

Vp baltar! I call you out to post more so I can make up my mind on you!

[vollkan]

Wow that's a terribad post.

Both 1) and 2) are absolutely not true, and 2) especially is LESS LIKELY to be true as soon as you've said it.

We have not spent a ridiculous amount of time on SB? We're not going to conclude anything new.

Tubby is the best lynch today.

Could you or someone else summarise the gist of the Tubby case for me. I'm not seeing it (by that, I mean that I just haven't picked up the arguments, not that I have an opinion either way)

...
spoke too soon:

When bunny claimed miller, Tubby immediately called for her lynch, saying that all claimed millers must die. But Llama found another game he was in where someone claimed miller and he didn't react at all like this there. And when asked here why his opinion on millers seemed to suddenly change or what caused it to change, he brushes off the point and refuses to answer.

Vote: tubby

This case makes sense. I won't join yet just because I don't know the VC.

if you call that game being over a year old sudden then sure, and why does my opinion change make me scummy,

The question is (fairly simply):

What made you change your mind?

A change of opinion in this particular game without some reason for it is scummy. The fact that the other game is a year old is relevant, but 'd still like you to answer the above.

No. You don't get to "disagree". Either you justify what you said or you admit my superiority.

YOU BEEN VOLLKAN'D!

I've become a verb. My life is complete.

I am The Happy Hoppy Fuzzy Bunny
essentially i have the power to entertian children they flock to me in droves, and while they do that it gives me an opurntunity to hide,
I work for thw council in their day care facility

So basically i am a hider i hide at nite last nite i hid behind milkshake who if milkshake were a converter i'd be killed

are we all satisfied now??

With the breadcrumb, I am inclined to accept this. Still answer my question.