Big Brother: HoH Mafia (We have a winner at last)


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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:18 am

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So here are our options:

1) I'm fucking amazing at this game as scum(nope, I can post some links if you want)
2) F-16 is fucking amazing at this game as scum
3) Toog is godfather who insisted himself get investigated.
4) Minions is scum with a crazy townie ass role
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:19 am

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In post 1824, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1287, Toogeloo wrote:I'd actually rather be nominated tonight than later if we're gonna do this at all. Have Minions scan me tonight and then I can gloat tomorrow. Put me against your biggest scum read molla.
In post 1288, Toogeloo wrote:I no longer have the security blanket of Imperium talking sense into people, and have at least 4 people who want me nominated. I am a good nominee to be scanned and prove Minions one way or another.
In post 1289, BBmolla wrote:Holy shit you're right.
^Don't miss this F-16.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:31 am

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You should be trying to preach that to Minions since he will be the HoH. You are beyond the point in this game where you should be pushing godfather paranoia lynch too. This is potentially LyLo if scum have one kill still. You should be taking the inno scan at face value and assuming that scum just wins this game in the event that I am the godfather.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:48 am

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OR I can assume that if they had another daykill they'd have use it by now and assume we have 2 lynches left with me most likely being the one today at this rate?
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:05 am

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It's getting pretty tiresome when I look back in and read defenses consisting of 'I can't be scum because if I was I would have to be fucking amazing!'

One of you is scum. That's the only detail that I am certain of. So one of you is plsying well. But I think to say any of your plays have been 'fucking amazing' is a bit if an exaggeration and handwaves away clear points of suspicion.

Bbmolla your opening two days were indeed good but still had clues if you are the last scum. And your day. 3 when pressure was on feels like a blow up. Your tone and language changes from in control to aggressive and that reads like a panic. If you are the last scum that wasn't 'fucking amazing' but any stretch.
You also had the easiest job in revealing toog as town. Any other thing you did there would have found you out as scum if you lied.

F16 has had his blow up today. Whether he likes it or not there are parallels to bbmolla in the aggression and indignant under pressure, but with him that same pressure was there when up against Titus but he knew he had the majority favouring him as town. The reason I am more dismissive of today's antics since I haven't yet read back is that he revealed bulbazak as scum... That makes less sense from a scum mindset, especially where we currently are at. Yes he could have made a judgement call because he is keen to point out he isn't great as mafia.

Toogeloo hasn't been described as having to be fucking amazing scum because he hasn't been a dominance in this game. He has been cop cleared and yes there is the potential for a godfather role.

So it's as simple as that from my perspective, and PoE alkne answers the question for me.

The threat of another kill still lingers, and unlike two of you I'm not so quick to dismiss the logic of a vote needing to be on the player before they can be killed, we have not seen a single death that has happened on an unvoted player.

F16s little experiment with me is not a proof if anything btw, especially if he controls the last kill , and with how long you left it on f16 it wasn't much of a test anyway.

Right, since I'm phone bound at present the day 4/5 analysis on bbmolla is on hold but I can ask this st least. Who is the majority choice for HoH, and how close to deadline do we want to run this? I want more time to finish my anslysis anyway, and I'm kind of put out nobody else has cased anyone else, even in summary.
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:27 am

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I'm not one to toot my own horn.

So.
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:27 am

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I'll probably make you HoH, I don't think you should be lynched. I'll just yell at Voided if you'rescum.
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:39 am

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I have no energy left to make a case. I wrongly assumed KBW was mafia and pushed for his eviction. I also assumed Desperado was mafia and did the same thing. I finally backed off of my Titus town-read and pushed for her lynch as well. In that respect, my play wasn't great. I instantly caught onto 2 out of 3 scum (IceGuy and Bulbazak - I never got a chance to look into Gnomeo much while he was still alive), but BBMolla was truly brilliant. It is a performance unparalleled to that I've ever seen before. Usually, when I catch scum, scum attack me and it turns into a game where I have to convince everyone that I am right. Molla's performance here completely knocked the wind out of me because I was defending him from the get-go. It is probably a downfall of my playstyle where I defend townreads excessively. If mafia can convince me that they are town, it ruins my game entirely. In this game, BBMolla was that person. Through incredible skill and amazing powers of persuasion, he had me completely fooled into believing that he was town. I pushed those mislynches for him and did the work he was supposed to do. I defended him from Titus when she questioned him repeatedly. I talked about how his play is impossible to come from scum. Well, he just proved it is not impossible. Even now, I was unable to peg him as scum instead going for the town cop and conf-town. If there is one person on this site who can truly say that they have fooled me so completely I sdf a;juzsaa;silj fasldijfk, it. is.
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Amazing job dude. I still can't believe it. You fucked the town so hard I had no idea how the fuck this happened. Someday I hope to gain your skills at being scum.

I don't have a "case" against BBMolla. I was townreading him all game. I was so sure about my read that I "auto-cleared" him to use Minion's terminology. I was too arrogant in my townread and that was the major fuckup.
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:44 am

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I'm not scum dude, if I were I'd have come in yelling about how scum you were not pussy foot around until someone thinks I'm scum.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:46 am

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And why would you do that when my eviction today guarantees that you get evicted tomorrow? You would need me on your side to help you lynch the cop/conftown, and then, the remaining player would lynch me.
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:47 am

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If I were scum I wouldn't even be in this situation I'd have killed the cop.
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:48 am

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But if you were the scum GF?
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:51 am

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And I'd probably use your "BBMOLLA IS 100% TOWN" to make them think someone is lying or some shit

Yeah okay. In that case I donno.

Does my reaction to the existence of the cop as well as my obvious belief in this being full vanilla line up with that
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:53 am

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In addition, the last Voided nightless Mastin went on and on about how retarded bussing is in a nightless

He's been going on and on how bussing is retarded in general
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:53 am

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IN ADDITION, Llama's reads tend to be batshit insane sometimes. Why kill him that early?
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:56 am

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Just look through past scum games of mine, the only one I remotely did any good was Ythan's nightless (now deleted) where I won the game by getting 6 mislynches in 6 hours.

But I can't sustain a facade for that long as scum, I have a plan. I don't just come into the day and pussy foot reads when I'm about to win. That's not a gambit, that's fucking stupid.
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:56 am

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But your contributions never really led to the evictions of any of your teammates. Nacho caught Gnomeo and Iceguy. Bulb was investigated. You just stated that those people were scum. It wasn't really bussing. You let Bulb off when he pretended to be "frustrated."

Perhaps your teammates Gnomeo, and Iceguy feared Llama's and Nacho's reads.

Why did you let Bulb off anyways? His frustration never seemed genuine to me.
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:58 am

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Because Voided's past nightless I just played with him where he was town and I thought he played super similar. Nacho had the same realization, read through his ISO.
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:59 am

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????????????

I named the scumteam and then went after the people I named.
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:00 pm

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What specifically made you believe Bulbazak was town?
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:01 pm

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Look I gotta go. In summation, I'm bad at this game. I'll be back later.

His shit reads probably.
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:03 pm

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Molla, in one word, who is the scum?
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:33 pm

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Voided.
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:34 pm

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Toog or You, not sure which one. Leaning Toog at the moment.
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:42 pm

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In post 784, Bulbazak wrote:Okay, normally I let these pass, because of how ridiculously accusatory and below the belt they are, but this one is ridiculous if you know my feelings on optimal scum play. Given a limited dayvig (and yes, it has to be limited) there is no way I'd waste it in the beginning stages of the game. It's best to save those shots until the end to cement your victory.

Seriously, this is not the first time you've been so underhanded in this game. And it's really starting to tick me off.
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In post 786, Desperado wrote:
Town as fuck.

Also, I've been thinking about that vote distribution and I have to be wrong about one of Bulb/Titus. 6-4 means all 3 scum + 1 misguided townie voted me, which means two of the scum are being truthful {rach, toog, F-16} and the third lied.

Hmm...new plan.

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Nominate me again. Put me up with molla like Titusscum wants. I'll get evicted, flip town, and then everyone knows that Gnomeo-Desp was Scum-Town and came out 6-4. Unless I'm missing something, this confirms 2 scum in Rach/Toog/F-16.
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In post 784, Bulbazak wrote:Okay, normally I let these pass, because of how ridiculously accusatory and below the belt they are, but this one is ridiculous if you know my feelings on optimal scum play. Given a limited dayvig (and yes, it has to be limited) there is no way I'd waste it in the beginning stages of the game. It's best to save those shots until the end to cement your victory.
Thank you, didn't know that.
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In post 800, BBmolla wrote:I'm here, calm down. I'm really getting a genuine feeling from him.

Bulba's frustration in his last post is unsettling for my scumread on him btw
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