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In post 1816, morph the cat wrote:

THE PLAN: READ IT

If your name is:

Lost Butterfly
morph
Pyro
Pie
Peregrine
upside down

then tonight you sit down and get money. Bid as you see fit, advertise items not in the five you want to see avaialble, play strategically.

If your name is not on that list and you are town:

Advertise 5 dollars each on these items:
Cop
Doctor
Watcher
Wage Freeze
Tracker

Then roll a 6 sided dice. Keep your roll a secret from any neighbor you might have.
If it is a 1, send all your remaining money to Lost Butterfly
If it is a 2, send all your remaining money to Morph the Cat
If it is a 3, send all your remaining money to Pyrotechnics
If it is a 4, send all your remaining money to Pieguyn
If it is a 5, send all your remaining money to PeregrineV
If it is a 6, send all your remaining money to Upside Down

If you don't have physical dice laying around, then you can roll virtual dice here: http://www.random.org/dice/

NOTE: This process will work best if it works randomly. Please don't pick your personal favorite out of of the Top Townie list. Roll the dice and do what the Goddess of Chaos bids.

In post 1824, Voidedmafia wrote:Hey, Morph:

In post 1709, Voidedmafia wrote:Also, are abilities like doctor and neighborizer being advertised in advance of the next cycle of auctions?

clearance, plz?

In post 1764, morph the cat wrote:I told Cabd that I think it kinda does make sense if you view it as a rebuke to the emerging consensus.

If that's the case, though, what does it accomplish, if anything? I don't have much fault with how he got his reads (though I do feel like the mhork read should be sifted a little bit better in light of my (and someone else's who I can't recall) notes on how he seems to be townreading his defenders), and the action does strike me as being on the town side of things, but doing something to go "yeah, well, here's MY reads that aren't like yours!" doesn't strike me as a profitable move at all.

In post 1773, Pyrotechnics wrote:BUT ISN'T MY KITTEN ADORABLE???

Syryana's?

In post 1775, morph the cat wrote:Yes he is!

He's cuter (and less weird) than yours.

In post 1816, morph the cat wrote:

THE PLAN: READ IT

Under the assumption that I'm getting lynched today (if only for efficiency, as Hara's so succinctly put it <_<), would you like me to do this in advance?

In post 1798, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:I wanted to wait until I had discussed things with Quilford before posting, but he's been pretty busy lately. I'll be honest: I don't think I completely understand morph's plan. Everyone makes a list of their top townreads and then everyone else transfers to those people? And there's no way of checking whether scum is following the plan?

I mean, I don't think there's any scum motivation behind morph suggesting it and I personally think they're probably town. But it just seems fruitless.

jacob wrote:Can someone walk me though the plan quickly?

In post 1523, morph the cat wrote:So I think adding randomness sufficiently allows us to still break the game even at 80% transfer rate. I'd like feedback on this plan from players that played the first two games, and anyone who enjoys mechanics breaking (hi nati)


So basically, you take the 6 most accepted globally townreads. Assign them each a number 1 to 6. Each player in the null/scum piles rolls their own D6 overnight. Those that roll an even number on their first roll transfer money. Those that roll an odd number use their money to advertise things that are assigned to town to advertise, as an even spread. Those that rolled to transfer money then roll a second D6, and the number they roll is who they transfer money to.



So let's take the example of town agreeing to advertise abilities A thru E tonight. I'm in the null pile but town, so I follow along. I roll my first D6 and roll an odd number. I have 50 dollars. I then advertise 10 dollars each on A thru E.

Let's say I had drawn evens instead on my first roll. I go and look at the globally created townlist, and roll to decide who I send my money to. I then send my entire amount.

So long as town all follows this plan, the scum players won't be disruptive enough to entirely over-ride it, nor will their countermeasures be able to predict who exactly is doing what. Additionally, even if they kill from within the six, there's still money and power in the other five.

To Do List for Town before Lynching

A: Determine the core 6 players we want as designated money/ability recipients (nominate 6 players other than yourself please)
B: Determine what abilities we want advertised tonight
C: Powerfuck a scum PM into the dead thread asap once A and B

In post 1527, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1526, Lost Butterfly wrote:Unless I'm misunderstanding your plan Morph I don't see how we can hold people accountable?

I don't think we have to. So long as all the town players follow along it still works out even if scum doesn't follow along. I think.

In post 1618, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1617, Garuda wrote:

In post 1523, morph the cat wrote:So basically, you take the 6 most accepted globally townreads. Assign them each a number 1 to 6. Each player in the null/scum piles rolls their own D6 overnight. Those that roll an even number on their first roll transfer money. Those that roll an odd number use their money to advertise things that are assigned to town to advertise, as an even spread. Those that rolled to transfer money then roll a second D6, and the number they roll is who they transfer money to.

My major concern with your plan is that there's too much money going towards advertising. We can reasonably spend like $20 on what we want to appear the next day and it will appear, and even IF the scum decide to spend major money getting what they want to appear the next night, this accomplishes holding off our powers one more night, which doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. Rolling the d6 to determine who they send money to in the 6 man town block seems to be the best plan to me while designating one or two or maybe even three other scummy people to advertising things.

That sounds fairly easy to tweak.

Would it make sense to assign advertising duties and then have everyone, including the advertisers randomly funnel money to the consensus 6 trusted townies?

In post 1816, morph the cat wrote:

THE PLAN: READ IT

If your name is:

Lost Butterfly
morph
Pyro
Pie
Peregrine
upside down

then tonight you sit down and get money. Bid as you see fit, advertise items not in the five you want to see avaialble, play strategically.

If your name is not on that list and you are town:

Advertise 5 dollars each on these items:
Cop
Doctor
Watcher
Wage Freeze
Tracker

Then roll a 6 sided dice. Keep your roll a secret from any neighbor you might have.
If it is a 1, send all your remaining money to Lost Butterfly
If it is a 2, send all your remaining money to Morph the Cat
If it is a 3, send all your remaining money to Pyrotechnics
If it is a 4, send all your remaining money to Pieguyn
If it is a 5, send all your remaining money to PeregrineV
If it is a 6, send all your remaining money to Upside Down

If you don't have physical dice laying around, then you can roll virtual dice here: http://www.random.org/dice/

NOTE: This process will work best if it works randomly. Please don't pick your personal favorite out of of the Top Townie list. Roll the dice and do what the Goddess of Chaos bids.

In post 1826, Seanald wrote:@Mod can we add an event to page 1 under the events tab, that links to "The Plan" for easy referencing, or is that out of our hands?

In post 1838, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Should we hurry up and speedlynch so we can get even more money to send to the townreads?

In post 1625, Garuda wrote:

In post 862, Nero Cain wrote:

vote:Hermy

This. Easiest move for scum to pull when they're getting a free lynch is to quietly shuffle on the wagon which is pretty much exactly what Nero did here.

In post 1634, zMuffinMan wrote:

nero wrote:The fact that he's saying that you DID imply I was lurking scum but fence sitting on the issue and saying that you were also just pointing it out [that I posted after you voted me.]

i honestly don't even think mhork realises that was what he was implying (i think he was just making an observation), but it doesn't change that nothing he said was factually incorrect, so you overreacting and calling him lying scum makes no sense.

nero wrote:PV also made some good points

about him.

all that said, i'm interested in which "good points" PV made you agree with. do you agree that seanald is scum purely for advertising austerity measures? because me disagreeing with that is the foundation for PV thinking i'm scum.

In post 1646, 1baldeagle1 wrote:

In post 1600, Nero Cain wrote:@ Bald, you really think

Morph

Mhork would imply that I'm lurking scum then say that he didn't...as town?

Lurking isn't a scumtell for me.

Atm, I'm not sure what to make of you. Some posts I don't like, and some I do.

In post 1632, Pyrotechnics wrote:Changed my mind on Nero and n being scum though. Nero started yelling at people, which I like for his alignment. Last time I saw him as scum he was much more apologetic to me about being disengaged and kept promising me a yelling post he never made. I originally didn't like the whiny tone, but he started looking better. The only pause I have is that this is multiball, and I'll have to check back. I think I remember him being scum in dn does Star Wars and he was capable of doing his yelling thing there. And n had a few posts I think are less likely to come from scum.

In post 1754, Pyrotechnics wrote:

In post 1393, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1328, Pyrotechnics wrote:

In post 1270, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1265, Lord Mhork wrote:Hehehe... You're funny, Nero. Do you always flip out or just as scum?

I'm not flipping out just calling you on your shit.

Why aren't you yelling at people Nero?

You are clearly not reading. Why are you not reading?

You getting into an inane argument with lord mhork

is not what I consider the Nero Cain yelling at people

as you burn through the thread and Scumhunt. This is a bit of a start, but it wasn't there before.

In post 1393, Nero Cain wrote:

Muffinman wrote:

nero wrote:I felt like the reasoning used "oh you didn't use the word obv-town yesterday" was twisting.

that had nothing to do with why anyone thinks/thought prohawk is scum.

In post 1829, zMuffinMan wrote:

morph wrote:I thought that Nacho was emulating/having fun with one of my habits as a hydra of putting down a vote long after I first telegraph the concern by indicating that there has been en hydra discussion resulting in the vote - finally

ok. i don't get your in-jokes, then.[/spoiler]

In post 1829, zMuffinMan wrote:what's pretty common of nero? i have limited experience with town-nero but i've never seen him play like he's played here. he's been more aggressive and opinionated in games i've seen of him.

In post 1748, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1389, zMuffinMan wrote:

mhork wrote:dribble

drivel*

^V wrote:What's Nero done?

this is actually the point. what

has

Nero done?

he's obviously following the thread, at least well enough that he can comment on minor things here and there sprinkled throughout the thread,

yet he's managed to avoid commenting on every major event, and avoid mentioning most of the people who are playing this game. not only that, but when you look at the reasons for the few reads he's actually given, they're pretty fucking shit.

nero's being a non-presence in this game. nothing to do with his post count and everything to do with him coasting on little content.

the argument he had with mhork is just the icing on the cake, here, and i don't know how people think Nero came out looking better from that. did any of you actually look at Nero's argument there?

the only good thing i can see in nero's iso is a voided vote, but i'm having second thoughts about voided atm so i'm not even sure that's a good thing.

This bugs me because IME it's pretty common of Nero. I think I usually wind up concluding that Nero and I are playing the same game in alternate universes. I have only town-nero experience in completed games, but from the metadives I did for other games, his town games come off much more strongly srsbzns than the scum game or two that I read during AMoL. This game doesn't feel like his scum games. But, it feels like a very mechanical version of his town games. IOW I think this is not the right reason for having a problem with Nero atm.[/spoiler]

In post 1827, morph the cat wrote:But who you think we should lynch and why is of great interest.

In post 1842, Nero Cain wrote:Also was not a big fan of Empcho's DP vote. There's not enough support for him today so its a wasted vote but then again I'm voting for scum Mhork and that not going through today either.

@Morph-What do you think of

In post 1393, Nero Cain wrote:

Muffinman wrote:

nero wrote:I felt like the reasoning used "oh you didn't use the word obv-town yesterday" was twisting.

that had nothing to do with why anyone thinks/thought prohawk is scum.

Despite that being the sole reason a wagon popped up Pro-hawk.

That comes from

TOWN

Muffin?