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Did my research.

In post 185, Venmar wrote:

[2]

Alpazard:

GuyInFreezer, Bulbazak

In post 727, Venmar wrote:

[4]

Alpazard:

GuyInFreezer, Thor665, PeregrineV, sekai no ki

In post 843, Venmar wrote:

[5]

Alpazard:

GuyInFreezer, Thor665, sekai no ki, Toogeloo, AngryPidgeon

In post 1146, Venmar wrote:

[5]

Alpazard:

GuyInFreezer, Thor665, sekai no ki, Toogeloo, SweatingChessball3

In post 1354, Venmar wrote:

[7]

Alpazard:

GuyInFreezer, Thor665, sekai no ki, Toogeloo, SweatingChessball3, Aegor, AngryPidgeon

All the Alpa wagoners.

GiF, (Bulb), Thor, PV, sekai, Toogeloo, AP, SCB3, and Aegor. All members of the wagon at one point.

Sekai is scum who hopped onto the wagon. Otherwise, my statement was in fact wrong.

In post 1823, Alpazard wrote:I didn't like how in her one catchup post she said our reaction was town but didn't actually quote any of our posts.

Nobody asked. Your iso's short enough that I can pull 'em up in a bit. (Actually explaining them will take longer, though.)

Your attempts to distance from RC were pretty good. I'm not sure what your angle has been this game, you might be a godfather or something?

In post 685, Alpazard wrote:Bite me

In post 688, Alpazard wrote:also, I'm not Sakura.

aka that's the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard regarding how to read me

pedit-

Too bad

(This one, not as much as most I'm quoting, but still to some extent.)

In post 1263, Alpazard wrote:You all are so full of fucking shit

jesus fucking christ

In post 1265, Alpazard wrote:See, it's shit like this that makes me want to selfhammer because fuck the rest of you.

But I wouldn't do that to pitoli.

So instead I'm going to sit here ranting about how you're all so full of shit for the worst wagon of the decade

Special seat for those asking for a premature claim, however.

pedit-

Alpa is racking up votes because people are stupid as fuck

In post 1267, Alpazard wrote:That being said I'd love a game to stick it to GIF who says he can read me by my tone

Pedit-

See, I'd be helpful, but I'm more in the I-can't-believe-the-wagon-on-me phase.

A bit pissed seeing as people are asking for a claim and both of us have to catch up to give reads and etc but what's the point if we're going to be lynched anyways? You guys think you're god-walking, you should be fine without us!

In post 1282, Alpazard wrote:Look at scum me like EVERYWHERE

When I'm about to be lynched I either get in an adhom tunnelwar or I shut up and lurk harder

Town me kicks and flails and screams til you realize I'm town

pedit-

I was going to be getting back into it today then I saw this bullshit wagon and am more worried about averting it on the only fucking person I know to be town than finding scum

PEdit2- fucking lol

Pedit3- I'm like 95% sure. I occasionally get fatalistic as town but most of the time when I'm getting wagoned as scum I either freak out panicky or lurk. I don't thrash around.

In post 1284, Alpazard wrote:He's too busy tunneling me to give a fuck

In post 1293, Alpazard wrote:GIF you're so full of shit

I really fucking hope you're town so I can link this game every time you claim to be able to read me

And don't give me that 'oh he's not giving reads it's a scumclaim" because you and I both know that everyone would ignore them anyways

All of these? Town reaction posts. Now, if you want me to additionally quote other town posts, there's more than just the reaction for why you're town, but the reactions here are in fact town.

For the love of god.

FTR, quoting Alpaca's ISO and saying that all the posts in it are all town does not make your rolecard and less mafia aligned.

Alpaca, vote mastin plz.

In post 1827, AngryPidgeon wrote:Your attempts to distance from RC were pretty good.

I've distanced from RC, alright, but I'm still convinced we share the same alignment. Albeit only weakly. He's a townread. Not much of one. I could be swayed fairly easily into reading him as scum. But he's never dropped below the null-line.

I'm not sure what your angle has been this game, you might be a godfather or something?

If I were a scum godfather, you can bet your ass the scum would be trying to save me. Not condemn me. Mastin? Strong scum player. Godfather-Mastin? Dear god, invincible scum player because THE largest downfall of a scuMastin is PR claims that condemn me. No, I'm town.

Stop being an idiot, AP. You've entered into confbias mode over literally nothing. Step back. Breathe. Reevaluate without that bias. Reads to evidence, not evidence to reads. And look again. I'm town. Sekai's not.

Mastin, what similarities are you seeing between RC in this game and Walking Dead?

In post 1831, mastin2 wrote:f I were a scum godfather, you can bet your ass the scum would be trying to save me. Not condemn me.

Oh, so you ARE being bussed? Sekai and ... Majiffy?

In post 1830, AngryPidgeon wrote:FTR, quoting Alpaca's ISO and saying that all the posts in it are all town does not make your rolecard any more mafia aligned.

True, but it does help illustrate why Alpa's not mafia, either. (Which you think anyway for some strange reason, in spite of the fact that a scuMastin's attitude towards Alpa is classical scuMastin attitude towards a scumbuddy.)

In post 1832, Zdenek wrote:Mastin, what similarities are you seeing between RC in this game and Walking Dead?

Thought I already explained it. If not, then I'll have to do so later.

In post 1833, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1831, mastin2 wrote:f I were a scum godfather, you can bet your ass the scum would be trying to save me. Not condemn me.

Oh, so you ARE being bussed? Sekai and ... Majiffy?

Yes. You can help me vote either of them. They've both been scumreads of mine since the beginning.

Too obvious. You've been too blatant with Alpa and Sven for them to be mafia. Your whole shenanigans about the Vezok/Sven/Alpaca wagons was pretty much air and false dichotomies. Probs all town wagons. Majiffy is the only possible scum of the early competing wagons.

In post 1836, AngryPidgeon wrote:Majiffy is the only possible scum of the early competing wagons.

Well, then, you should be more than happy to let me bus my scumbuddy, now, shouldn't you?

mastin is totally town. Count me out.

This is a scum-driven wagon if I've ever seen one. I am ashamed of any townies riding it.

Votecount 1.15

[0] Majiffy:

[0] LeMidget:

[2]

Sekai No Ki:

Mastin2, Bulbazak

[1]

SweatingChessBall3:

PeregrineV

[5]

PeregrineV:

dopog, BBMolla, GuyInFreezer, RedCoyote, Svenskt Stal

[0] RedCoyote:

[7]

Mastin2:

Nero Cain, sekai no ki, AngryPidgeon, Majiffy, ActionDan, Aegor, Rubicon

[1]

Alpazard:

LeMidget

[0] Aegor:

[1]

GuyInFreezer:

Zdenek

[0] Bulbazak:

[0] Thor665:

[0] Svenskt Stål:

[0] Rubicon:

[2]

ActionDan:

Alpazard, Vezokpiraka

[1]

Vezokpiraka:

Pidgey

[0] BBMolla:

[0] Pidgey:

[0] AngryPidgeon:

[0] Dopog:

[1]

Nero Cain:

SweatingChessball3

[0] Zdenek:

Not Voting (1):

• Thor665

Deadline:

• Monday, March 10th, 2014

Mod Notes:

• With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
  
• Nero Cain is
  V/LA
  until March 7th (Friday) or so.

In post 1738, BBmolla wrote:I don't see why PV's postings make him town but I'll go along with you people.

SCP's reaction to the PV wagon dying was pretty terrible.

VOTE: SCP
Rubicon is also a solid option

Seriously, AP.
THINK.
THINGS.
THROUGH.

All of my recent scumgames? I half-assed. Lurked. Intentionally gave the town nothing to work with. Manipulated subtly. This...isn't that. Why wouldn't I do that if I was scum? For the heck of it? Know what another fundamental part of my scum meta is? Sticking to what works, in spite of it having been identified as part of my scum meta. If someone calls me out on it, they can't actually get me lynched on it. (At least, not this early.) Yet I'm not doing that. I'm being active, giving a good 90-95%, and making my thoughts as crystal clear as can be. No barriers. Just transparency.

You're seeing the quirk I had in my posting as being a scum tactic used to obfuscate people's reads on me. Yet you damn-well KNOW that I wouldn't do that as scum. You KNOW that it's just something I'd randomly do as town. You KNOW that there's no scum motive for it and plenty of town motive given recent events around me. You KNOW that I do things as town just for the heck of doing them, and this was just the latest game in my long line of games where I chose to do it. Just in this game, of me being extra-wordy, rather than like in Gundamn, having been succinct. This is just something that I DO, and you know it, dang it.

STOP. CONFBIASING. AND ACTUALLY LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING.

In post 1835, mastin2 wrote:Thought I already explained it. If not, then I'll have to do so later.

You said that it's the same, but not why.

Anyway, I'm pretty far from sold on a mastin lynch. There are a couple of points in her ISO that need clarification, but generally she seems legit.

In post 1839, Venmar wrote:[7] Mastin2: Nero Cain, sekai no ki, AngryPidgeon, Majiffy, ActionDan, Aegor, Rubicon

Sekai's scum. Jiffy's scum. Rubicon's scum.

DGB's right.
This. is. a. scum. driven. wagon.

And you dang-well KNOW it is. You've even admitted it! That sekai and Jiffy are scum. You know they're scum. Which is simpler?
That in spite of my policy on not-bussing, my scumbuddies decided to entirely discard it and wagon me, when I'm an incredibly strong scum player...
...Or that I'm town and they're scum pushing a mislynch?

USE. YOUR. GOD. DAMNED. REASONING.

In post 1842, Zdenek wrote:You said that it's the same, but not why.

Alright. Outta time (actually, 15 minutes past out of time), so not now, but later, will try.

In post 1844, mastin2 wrote:

In post 1842, Zdenek wrote:You said that it's the same, but not why.

Alright. Outta time (actually, 15 minutes past out of time), so not now, but later, will try.

Do note, though, that the RC read is weak. There's a resemblance that makes me think town, but it's not such a strong read as to be absolute.

In post 1838, SweatingChessball3 wrote:mastin is totally town. Count me out.

This is a scum-driven wagon if I've ever seen one. I am ashamed of any townies riding it.

Okay.

Then we should lynch me. Nero is a complete shot in the dark given what's in the game thread.

My flip will resolve a ton of misconceptions.

My ONLY concern about flipping town today or tonight is worry that town dumbasses will lynch GiF tomorrow.

In post 1846, sekai no ki wrote:Okay.

Then we should lynch me. Nero is a complete shot in the dark given what's in the game thread.

My flip will resolve a ton of misconceptions.

My ONLY concern about flipping town today or tonight is worry that town dumbasses will lynch GiF tomorrow.

UNVOTE

IF SEKAI WERE TOWN, THIS WOULD BE BACKED UP WITH A SELF-VOTE.

^You want scum manipulating?
THAT post by sekai is scum manipulating.

Get your head out of your ass, AP.

[quote="In post 1847, mastin2"][/quote]

I'll never self-vote as town again. Not unless it's to avoid no-lynch and evens, and probably not even then.

DGB thinks you're town. If that's true, then all that shit you're pouring at AP, reread it.

You can do it after I flip and think about how truly awful you've been this game.