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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:09 am
by pirate mollie
ProHawk wrote:I'm done. I'm the ultimate cop. Nothing can get past me (lawyers, ect). I can target someone but wont get results until the end of the following night. I targeted Bulba N1 because I thought his overzealous defense of me was strange, but after learning he was town is actually pretty freaking impressive.

Scum won't keep me alive because there can't be anything they can do to stop me from getting a guilty. Do what you will, but congrats Mollie and Dino.

They are both highly likely scum, maybe Nazarene but I haven't really decided on them yet.


^ like this is his claim. nowhere does it say he is odd night. which means he shld have gotten his results. which means he is probs fakeclaiming. cos he did not bother to explain further when I said he claimed ultimate delayed cop cos he tried to say I was I was confused about the role that he had claimed. when I clearly wasn't.

1. scum blocker role has been lynched.
2. guille most likely did what he said he wld do and jked eddie. which is why eddie has no result.

no how no way does prohawk NOT receive his results in this scenario.

hawk boy hedged on his read of nazarene until the bitter end.

you do the math and then come back to me with a simple yes or no to my question.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:10 am
by ProHawk
Mollie is trying to figure out who she needs to kill tonight. End of story. And if she can lynch me today, that will help her out tremendously because she won't have to worry about choosing between people that could out her.

There is also a zero world chance I am going to trust mollie's ability to protect anyone.

P-EDIT: I only investigate odd night, and get results at the end of the even night. I am not up to investigate anyone again until N5.

P-EDIT2: Keep reading Mollie.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:10 am
by Mathdino
ProHawk wrote:Mollie is trying to figure out who she needs to kill tonight. End of story. And if she can lynch me today, that will help her out tremendously because she won't have to worry about choosing between people that could out her.

There is also a zero world chance I am going to trust mollie's ability to protect anyone.

P-EDIT: I only investigate odd night, and get results at the end of the even night. I am not up to investigate anyone again until N5.

P-EDIT2: Keep reading Mollie.

FFS man, just tell us which group you're investigating in.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:11 am
by ProHawk
Heres one for you smarty pants. If I was fake-claiming, I could come up with a FAKE RESULT! Rocket science...

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:12 am
by eyestott
I'll be staying up for a while (marathon has just started), so if someone wants to have a chat about the game, let's go.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:13 am
by Mathdino
eyestott wrote:Godfather seems plausible.

This is the spanner in the works. It's the thing that only JK and ultimate cop can counter.

I have no plan for this. Thoughts?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:14 am
by ProHawk
Dino, according to your plan, you and Fenix should investigate eachother.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:14 am
by ProHawk
Also, you are correct, I am not tied down to odd nights, it's just that I did use my ability N1 so it kinda tied me down to odd nights because of the cool-down.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:14 am
by eyestott
Well, assuming Prohawk is town, he can squeeze out maybe one role-confirmed town before he hits the sack.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:15 am
by eyestott
Ika, what will you flip as on death?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:16 am
by eyestott
I mean role, not alignment.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:17 am
by Mathdino
And that person is now locked. Which sucks.

If he investigates an invest, mollie can choose to protect whomever.
If he investigates a non PR, mollie should protect his target.
If he investigates mollie, mollie has to protect him for this to work.

Either way I say we lynch ika if ProHawk's not already investigating him.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:19 am
by ProHawk
Ika is a decent lynch.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:20 am
by eyestott
That sounds like a good plan.
Prohawk, did you target ika?
P.edit: I guess not.
VOTE: ika

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:20 am
by ProHawk
Well, I am preferring to scum-hunt the normal way - without roles involved, so don't lynch him until I get through my analysis

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:22 am
by pirate mollie
ProHawk wrote:Mollie is trying to figure out who she needs to kill tonight. End of story. And if she can lynch me today, that will help her out tremendously because she won't have to worry about choosing between people that could out her.

There is also a zero world chance I am going to trust mollie's ability to protect anyone.

P-EDIT: I only investigate odd night, and get results at the end of the even night. I am not up to investigate anyone again until N5.

P-EDIT2: Keep reading Mollie.


by your own logic I can protect any1 I want if I determine the nk. logic fails cos I am not scum.

and you are only now coming out now with this "odd" delayed ultimate cop result. cos you didn't before until I mentioned it.

not buying it.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:23 am
by eyestott
ProHawk wrote:Well, I am preferring to scum-hunt the normal way - without roles involved, so don't lynch him until I get through my analysis
Okay, then.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:24 am
by pirate mollie
ProHawk wrote:Well, I am preferring to scum-hunt the normal way - without roles involved, so don't lynch him until I get through my analysis


you mean like how you have been doing all game?

cos it sucks and I think you are scum because of it.

feel good that I don't think you wld be this shitty as town.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:24 am
by ProHawk
ProHawk wrote:I'm going to correct you Naz, feel free to use this as your conf. guilty.

I didn't and couldn't use an action N2 because I used it N1. So no, it really doesn't check out with YOUR insane claim. So either severe shenanigans, or scum. So if you are actually town, I hope you realize how dumb it was to get people (namely me) to claim in the name of SOLVING this game. As you can see... severe shenanigans (as advertised in the freaking TITLE of the game)

Tier, in direct response to you - It's been a combination of not having enough time and spreading myself too thin getting into too many games which doesn't allow me to provide the depth and keeps me superficial.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:25 am
by ProHawk
No mollie, I mean like I am going to start doing in the next hour or so.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:26 am
by pirate mollie
HEY MATH YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION!

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:34 am
by pirate mollie
ProHawk wrote:
ProHawk wrote:I'm going to correct you Naz, feel free to use this as your conf. guilty.

I didn't and couldn't use an action N2 because I used it N1. So no, it really doesn't check out with YOUR insane claim. So either severe shenanigans, or scum. So if you are actually town, I hope you realize how dumb it was to get people (namely me) to claim in the name of SOLVING this game. As you can see... severe shenanigans (as advertised in the freaking TITLE of the game)

Tier, in direct response to you - It's been a combination of not having enough time and spreading myself too thin getting into too many games which doesn't allow me to provide the depth and keeps me superficial.


SO WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING HERE IS THAT YOU ARE NOT AN ODD NIGHT ULTIMATE DELAYED COP WHO DIDN'T DIE BUT THAT IF YOU USE YOUR ABILITY N1 IT SOMEHOW NEGATES AN ABILITY ON N2 OR N3 FOR THAT MATTER COS YOU HAVEN'T REALLY EXPLAINED WHY YOU DON'T HAVE A RESULT WHEN PRESSURED OR EXPLAIN HOW YOUR ABILITY WORKS IF THIS THING IS ALLOWED TO LIVE I AM GOING TO BLUNT TRAUMA MYSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE GAME.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:35 am
by ProHawk
Mollie, your desperation is showing.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:38 am
by Mathdino
pirate mollie wrote:HEY MATH YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION!

WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH?

1. I don't really care to read him other than answering your obsessive questions about him because unless he's a godfather, he's confirmable.
2. Completely disregarding any role stuff, I had a huge scumread on him.
3. That said, consider that ultimate cop is precisely the sort of thing mastin would include in a game full of roles that fuck up investigations. Furthermore unless mastin provided fakeclaims (which seems unlikely considering Sonic claimed someone else's role) ProHawk would have no way of knowing that there wasn't already a "bypass all modifiers" role in the game.
Also the fact that he didn't try to bend over backwards to explain his role makes me think he's town and didn't think that people wouldn't understand it. aka he probably didn't make it up. It's also pretty consistent and he has a point when he says it'd be easy to just come up with a fake result and that he'd have no real reason to constantly stall today and yesterday. What would he be waiting on? More thinking time than he already had from the night phase? Something from the mod?

ProHawk's claim coming from scum just doesn't make sense.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:41 am
by pirate mollie
ProHawk wrote:Mollie, your desperation is showing.


wat desperation.

the only 1 who is desperate is you. with a stalling fakeclaim.

dgb isn't dumb, and ika won't vote me if he values his body parts.