Spoiler: questions for ranger about her catchup posts
Why were dramonic and axel sharing a tier on page 1? Was Seniors so low because they suggested a policy lynch or for some other reason? Was Spiffeh on the bottom for claiming town or some other reason?
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What was wrong with Mala's posting on page 2?
Is Sakura's postition primarily based on 38 or a different one?
Is beeboy rising because he was making so much noise?
Why does beeboy jump to the top on page 4 specifically?, sakura goes up a notch for questioning a townread on her or something else?, davesaz is falling a little due to other people being rearranged or some other reason?
Is davesaz a little bit towner than mirhawk on this page because of the false dichotomy thing or something else?
Is True Ogre at the bottom because of how late their entrance was? Because of withholding their vote? It feels like True Ogre's stances in 123 were fairly similar to your own stances. Did the post feel like testing the waters to you or something else?
True Ogre vote because of their vote at the top of page 6 or?
Almost
asked hey why isn't swordsworth on your readslist. Then I felt dumb!Skybird is towner because of her questioning of Ogre or?
is tictac scummy for the things they're missing in 138 or the things they're noticing?
tictac a little townier for 162? seniors a little scummier for errant's wall? Do you think there's probably exactly one scum in each of these lists:
Because of his interactions with us or something else?↑ Ranger wrote:Tonality-wise, though, page nine does give a glimpse of what might be a town-Spiffeh.
That gets me to this:
{Tammy, SirCakez, beeboy}
{The Pied Piper, Skybird}
{Cerberus v666}
{SnarkySnowman}
{dramonic, Axelrod, Sakura Hana}
{davesaz}
{Mirhawk}
{Spiffeh}
{The Wrong Lynch, tictac}
{Friendless Seniors}
{True Ogre}
Nothing else on page 9 affected your reads on any other slots?
You're voting Seniors but you still have Ogre beneath them in your readslist. Is this intentional? Is pistachi0n's place here solely due to her miller claim? Is Amihan's place solely due to the miller gambit? I feel like Spiffeh got towner on page 11. You didn't? Why is Mirhawk's position unchanged? There's very little motion in your readslist around this time. What would you attribute that to? 337 is a naked vote on pistachi0n in response to amihan's counterclaim. Why was this vote worse than the other votes that were piling on at this time? (This is partially answered in your 1278 but why are naked votes from hiplop surprising to you? If you can tell that the naked voter was hiplop, and I agree that was almost certainly him, that means that naked voting isn't surprising from hiplop except in this case it is?)
Okay, so Mirhawk got a little worse in 349, but they didn't get worse before that? I feel like they were already worse before 337.
Can you talk some about your Cakez read? I realise it hasn't changed since page 1 but that's part of the problem I'm having with it. What did you like about Ogre and Mala's posting on page 16 in particular?↑ Ranger wrote:{Tammy, SirCakez, beeboy, Amihan}
{The Pied Piper, Skybird}
{Cerberus v666}
{SnarkySnowman, pistachi0n, Sakura Hana}
{dramonic, Axelrod, davesaz}
{Spiffeh, The Wrong Lynch}
{tictac,True Ogre}
{Friendless Seniors,Mirhawk}
Same page, reordering accuracy. This is a more accurate reads list.
(i edited the labels into the tiers to make it easier for myself to follow.)↑ Ranger wrote:475, minus beeboy (as Spiffeh said, beeboy's town), plus Mirhawk (butnotpistachi0n), is basically where I'm at now if you couldn't tell.
Unfortunately, I have to leave soon (just enough time to read the current posts), so I'll leave with half the game finished, and a reads list currently looking like this:
Untouchable town: {Tammy, SirCakez, beeboy, Amihan}
Decently-strong town: {The Pied Piper, Skybird}
Rogue tier: {Cerberus v666}
Town: {SnarkySnowman, pistachi0n, Sakura Hana}
Mostly town: {dramonic, Axelrod, davesaz}
Town with minor reserves: {The Wrong Lynch,podoboq, Spiffeh}
Probably scum: {tictac, True Ogre}
Most definitely scum: {Friendless Seniors, Mirhawk}
Cerberus is honestly a rogue tier. He could be placed in any tier above tictac that's not the untouchable-town tier right now, and it wouldn't be out of place honestly.
Other than that, the tiers are approximately: {Untouchable, decently-strong town, town, mostly-town, town-with-minor-reserves, probably scum, most definitely scum}.
Snarky isn't falling a little? I know that Cerberus is a rogue tier but did his predecessor's "18 pages holy moly" affect your read in any direction?
Is your town read on podoboq partially based on how cute he is?
Is your dramonic read meta based or?
What do you think of the rest of Cakez' seven scumreads? You pointed at his 475 and said what you thought of them but he was also considering pistachi0n, mirhawk, and you.
Is podoboq improving because of posts like 477 where he's looking past things he doesn't like to townread people in spite of antitown behaviour? Because of the jester questions on page 21?
What did you think of goodmorning's entrance? I notice it didn't leave a mark on your readslist.
What did you think of snarky chiming in to the jester conversation and continuing to ignore everything going on in the thread?
Given that Seniors is/was one of your strongest scumreads, what do you think of this vote count which occurs right after Amihan has retracted her miller counterclaim but before anyone has really had time to unvote. How does this affect your read on Amihan? I've been townreading her until now but I've got this sudden worry that we're underestimating her. At the time of her counterclaim, Seniors had 5 votes on them, Cakes had 3, and then there were a bunch of vanity wagons. At the end of it, pistachi0n was the leading wagon, Mirhawk was starting to look bad with 4 votes on them, and the only people left voting Seniors were Snarky, Ogre, and beeboy.
The time to do something crazy is when multiple members of the scumteam are in trouble because things can hardly get worse and they might get better. This would make Mirhawk and pistachi0n both likely town, and Seniors, Cakez, and Amihan all scum. Axel too, maybe, for 538.
Is Ogre looking better for mixing up the heads in my hydra on page 22 or something else?
What did you think of pistachi0n's 550?
This is a page 24 readslist. I feel like so much has happened in these 4 pages that isn't reflected in your readslist.
Was 670 a large part of why podoboq moved up?↑ Ranger wrote:875 means I canfinallystop orphaning my Cerb read.
{Tammy, SirCakez, beeboy, Amihan}
{The Pied Piper, Skybird,pistachi0n, podoboq, Cerberus v666}
{SnarkySnowman, Sakura Hana}
{davesaz,Spiffeh}
{The Wrong Lynch, Axelrod,dramonic}
{True Ogre}
{tictac}
{Friendless Seniors, Mirhawk}
Most of these are reads getting stronger, but True Ogre looks more town (still more likely to be scum than not, just less likely scum than before) and read atrophy is why Axelrod and dramonic have dropped a few pegs.
I agree that Tammy's town but it feels like you've written her off as town.
Dramonic did post during this time actually and so did Axel. Why don't you have read atrophy on Snarky?
Why is 875 enough to make Cerberus town? Have you played with scumCerberus before? Is he that bad at it?
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This is your final readslist for when you were caught up. I know you've made a few since then but I haven't had time to examine the pages they're based on in depth yet.↑ Ranger wrote:This is one of the reasons dramonic and Axelrod have dropped in my reads.Spiffeh wrote:Ugh I feel like I have too many townreads and someone is dogging me
Another being I hated Axel's reads when he did give them.
Speaking of which,
{Tammy, SirCakez, beeboy, Amihan,Cerberus v666}
{The Pied Piper, Skybird, pistachi0n, podoboq,Sakura Hana}
{SnarkySnowman}
{davesaz, Spiffeh}
{The Wrong Lynch, dramonic}
{Axelrod}
{True Ogre}
{tictac}
{Friendless Seniors, Mirhawk}
Now the orphaned read is SnarkySnowman. My stance on Cerb now applies to him; he could be anywhere above Axelrod that's below untouchable.
I'm sort of running out of steam to be reskimming the parts of the game that i'd already read when I desperately need to get caught up myself, and I don't even really disagree with this list as such because it's pretty similar to what my own lynch pool was looking like around that time and I do think there's scum in [mirhawk, seniors] though I don't think they make sense as scum together right now.
But at the same time, and maybe it's an artifact of reading so much in such a short time but I feel like there are some eddies in the thread that didn't leave ripples in your readslist.
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