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Amongst Ladies I have Maria/MDS town. Nahdia is the IC. Vedith seems town tonally. Idk about Parama.
Pie is nullish town. Inspector nullish scum and Kagami scum.

Gents the scum pool is [SAD, Mh, Gamma]
Everyone else is town by POE

In post 1814, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1812, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh lol. I thought you wrote HS, not MH. wow. I have no idea how I made that connection.

Alright.

MH is being lazy, and I don't like it. As I said before pie is within my real of suspicion as well, so...they're on the low likelihood of being town/town spectrum, but blah. Do you want me to actually ISo someone SS? I'll be a lot more useful after I do that.

Ok so you don't like my relative laziness and low activity, which is I guess ok as it is.

What do you think of the content I've actually produced? SAD was bitching about my only doing setup stuff, which is pretty obviously false; what do you think of my actual interactions that I've had, most notably my questioning of IS?

I pulled up your ISO before you made this post, hoping it was super short, and it wasn't. Ugh. Without reading it, you've definitely done more than just setup spec, but in all honesty the majority of your posting hasn't stuck out in any way. There's nothing that I recall from reading the game that came from you, no original thought that's actually pinged as having any depth of significance to it. A read through might make me find something, but initially there's basically nothing that I remember about you, which is bad when you actually have been posting.

In post 1820, Shadow_step wrote:

In post 1812, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh lol. I thought you wrote HS, not MH. wow. I have no idea how I made that connection.

Alright.

MH is being lazy, and I don't like it. As I said before pie is within my real of suspicion as well, so...they're on the low likelihood of being town/town spectrum, but blah. Do you want me to actually ISo someone SS? I'll be a lot more useful after I do that.

Yeah iso inspector. I'm paranoid about the slot. He expressed a TR on me when Parama was bombing the thread with SCUM SLIP-LYNCH SHADOW.

hmm, I think inspector migth be a short ISO. Alright. That and Pie are happening first.

Fuck maybe my read through was entirely too cursory. Inspector also had a bunch to say! *sigh*

In post 1824, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1823, MariaR wrote:

In post 996, MariaR wrote:although scum me would 100% pair with smith or gamma

In post 1004, MariaR wrote:

In post 999, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 996, MariaR wrote:although scum me would 100% pair with smith or gamma

Or me if you wanted to win as scum y'know

real talk

Oh hell no I'd be scared af to go dance with you if I was scum cause I'd think you'd figure me out by comparing dances
Smith and gamma are easy to manipulate...dam why do I have a scum plan yet no town plan
*rechecks role pm*

thoughts smith?

Why are you asking his opinion on two of your WIFOMiest posts

reasons.

HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE
You say you have Vedith town me scum, and IS and SAD as both scummy
Are you that sure I'm scum you won't vote the pair you seem more scum in?

In post 1829, Gamma Emerald wrote:HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE
You say you have Vedith town me scum, and IS and SAD as both scummy
Are you that sure I'm scum you won't vote the pair you seem more scum in?

@shadow

In post 1823, MariaR wrote:

In post 996, MariaR wrote:although scum me would 100% pair with smith or gamma

In post 1004, MariaR wrote:

In post 999, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 996, MariaR wrote:although scum me would 100% pair with smith or gamma

Or me if you wanted to win as scum y'know

real talk

Oh hell no I'd be scared af to go dance with you if I was scum cause I'd think you'd figure me out by comparing dances
Smith and gamma are easy to manipulate...dam why do I have a scum plan yet no town plan
*rechecks role pm*

thoughts smith?

I think I'm less easily manipulated than you give me credit for.
I also think the lack of an invitation from me, and the fact that you already had a stack of invites, would have made it awkward for you to have shoehorned a PT with me (though honestly a PT with you would have been fun I think).
But I also think you're relatively likelier town given that you picked shadow over sick, not so much because sick is easy to manipulate and/or makes bad reads (cough, cough, Newbie 1714), but because shadow was a slot under fire with a realistic chance of getting lynched early on and I don't really see the gain from wolf!you from taking him in that spot, unless you were super confident that he could claw his way out from under it.
Some degree of WIFOM I guess, but I'd still say worth a town lean at this point.

PS If you and shadow are w/w, I kinda think you bus for the easy town credit there and just let him hang too, but again that's the basis of a relatively soft TR on you.

In post 1820, Shadow_step wrote:

In post 1812, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh lol. I thought you wrote HS, not MH. wow. I have no idea how I made that connection.

Alright.

MH is being lazy, and I don't like it. As I said before pie is within my real of suspicion as well, so...they're on the low likelihood of being town/town spectrum, but blah. Do you want me to actually ISo someone SS? I'll be a lot more useful after I do that.

Yeah iso inspector. I'm paranoid about the slot. He expressed a TR on me when Parama was bombing the thread with SCUM SLIP-LYNCH SHADOW.

Because if anything I don't see how that was a scumslip? I don't mind it that people rewd my ISO though; then thet see that I'm actually doing stuff.

In post 1822, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1820, Shadow_step wrote:

In post 1812, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh lol. I thought you wrote HS, not MH. wow. I have no idea how I made that connection.

Alright.

MH is being lazy, and I don't like it. As I said before pie is within my real of suspicion as well, so...they're on the low likelihood of being town/town spectrum, but blah. Do you want me to actually ISo someone SS? I'll be a lot more useful after I do that.

Yeah iso inspector. I'm paranoid about the slot. He expressed a TR on me when Parama was bombing the thread with SCUM SLIP-LYNCH SHADOW.

What are your thoughts about the back and forth between me and IS about his questioning of nahdia?

I already asked this a day ago?


I'm in favor of no-lynching, btw.

In post 1822, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1820, Shadow_step wrote:

In post 1812, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh lol. I thought you wrote HS, not MH. wow. I have no idea how I made that connection.

Alright.

MH is being lazy, and I don't like it. As I said before pie is within my real of suspicion as well, so...they're on the low likelihood of being town/town spectrum, but blah. Do you want me to actually ISo someone SS? I'll be a lot more useful after I do that.

Yeah iso inspector. I'm paranoid about the slot. He expressed a TR on me when Parama was bombing the thread with SCUM SLIP-LYNCH SHADOW.

What are your thoughts about the back and forth between me and IS about his questioning of nahdia?

I'll look into that later.

Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1829, Gamma Emerald wrote:HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE
You say you have Vedith town me scum, and IS and SAD as both scummy
Are you that sure I'm scum you won't vote the pair you seem more scum in?

@shadow

IS read is barely solid. He is at null scum because I'm paranoid about the slot. Plus I'm gonna get zero support to lynch SAD. So pursuing that ATM is pointless.

Okay so you'll push me because I'm more likely to happen
Feels like counterwagoning

In post 1816, Shadow_step wrote:I like that idea, force scum to kill early.
But I'd like everyone to have an established read list before we reach that point.

Just for you baby, I'll whip up a new tier list (mainly cuz I love making these tier lists in games lol)

Nahdia
Parama, inspectorscout, Human Sequencer, Cerberus v666
Kagami, MariaR
The_Jester, Dunnstral, pieguyn
MiniDeathStar, mhsmith0, Gamma Emerald
Shadow_step, Vedith

Okay well it wasn't that new I guess similar to the last one.

Notes:
- Gamma moved down due to ISOing him, the large gaps of illogical thinking to come from town that he has. His posts read more like "Hey looks guys I'm trying to help" rather than actually ~trying~ to help. It feels like he latches onto posts then comments about those, then moves on. Like claiming that HS was using the logic of scum not reading the main thread as one of her main points, while I felt like it was an offhanded remark by her. He just took it, exaggerated it, then said "Hey guys I'll post a ~helpful~ thing here".
- Dunn went up because from metaing him and talking to inspector I got the feeling that he does this weird style of posting random troll and fluff posts regardless of alignment. I still think he has very little substance in his posts though, like he doesn't have concrete pushes that he looks like he truly believes in. However from the ISO I felt the trying to pair with Maria was genuine, and I think scum would have likely dropped the insistence much earlier in the hope to just ~gets~ a partner as opposed to stay out in the cold.
-Pie moved down because I really see nothing in her ISO that she can't be faking. She's being helpful, yes. She has reads, yes. But like... nothing that can't be faked. It's one of my qualms with people like that (which is why I brought up the Equinox point), it's very hard for me to get a grasp on the people that don't post with ~passion~.

You're paranoid because there were at least the majority of th people who didn't see it as a scumslip, but you are paranoid of me because I'm the one that voiced it?

In post 1825, Shadow_step wrote:Amongst Ladies I have Maria/MDS town. Nahdia is the IC. Vedith seems town tonally. Idk about Parama.
Pie is nullish town. Inspector nullish scum and Kagami scum.

Gents the scum pool is [SAD, Mh, Gamma]
Everyone else is town by POE

Since you don't really have strongly defined town reads, what is driving your suspicion of me and SAD?

I see

In post 1433, Shadow_step wrote:SAD I don't play from your book of how to play mafia. So what you do as scum doesn't apply to me. But thanks for scum claiming with that vote.

In post 1440, Shadow_step wrote:SAD, you're a misrepping moron. What I clearly meant was that I'd be okay with my lynch only if I had Maria as scum. I have her as town so I'm absolutely not okay with my lynch.

on SAD, not much other commentary from a quick ISO skim.

Also, thoughts on SAD's postings at me? If you think we're teammates, then that's just theater right? What makes them look like theater to you?

In post 1835, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Dunn went up because from metaing him

wait really? lol

Just surprised someone took the time to do that

Maria TRs Dunnstral. I'm not so confident about him. Dunn is more townier when he is scum and his scum game is reading everyone as town(exaggeration. Try to get the point). This is from my exp with him.

Why wouldn't you take the time for that?
If I didn't I'd had been hunting cerb

Rip english

My reads are similar to thsose of arthur, but vedith is way higher, shadow is a bit higher and so is dunn
Human sequencer a nbit lower

In post 1838, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1835, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Dunn went up because from metaing him

wait really? lol

In post 1839, Dunnstral wrote:Just surprised someone took the time to do that

You'd be surprised what you can accomplish when you stop treating the thread as twitter and actually take the time out to go after meta about reads you're not sure about or to do research via ISOs.

You know, instead of having to dedicate a significant part of playing the game to only trying to catch up through garbage and troll posts, and mud slinging contests.

I might as well post my thoughts now

Shadow_step wrote:Dunn is more townier when he is scum

In post 1840, Shadow_step wrote:Maria TRs Dunnstral. I'm not so confident about him. Dunn is more townier when he is scum and his scum game is reading everyone as town(exaggeration. Try to get the point). This is from my exp with him.

I've played with wolf!Dunn once and it was while he was still doing his hyperaggressive/spammy playstyle, so was kinda hard to read (wolves swept ). i don't think I have a great meta on him, was null on him in that one and was kinda null on him in recent game when he was a mason.

In post 1835, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:

In post 1816, Shadow_step wrote:I like that idea, force scum to kill early.
But I'd like everyone to have an established read list before we reach that point.

Just for you baby, I'll whip up a new tier list (mainly cuz I love making these tier lists in games lol)

Nahdia
Parama, inspectorscout, Human Sequencer, Cerberus v666
Kagami, MariaR
The_Jester, Dunnstral, pieguyn
MiniDeathStar, mhsmith0, Gamma Emerald
Shadow_step, Vedith

Okay well it wasn't that new I guess similar to the last one.

Notes:
- Gamma moved down due to ISOing him, the large gaps of illogical thinking to come from town that he has. His posts read more like "Hey looks guys I'm trying to help" rather than actually ~trying~ to help. It feels like he latches onto posts then comments about those, then moves on. Like claiming that HS was using the logic of scum not reading the main thread as one of her main points, while I felt like it was an offhanded remark by her. He just took it, exaggerated it, then said "Hey guys I'll post a ~helpful~ thing here".
- Dunn went up because from metaing him and talking to inspector I got the feeling that he does this weird style of posting random troll and fluff posts regardless of alignment. I still think he has very little substance in his posts though, like he doesn't have concrete pushes that he looks like he truly believes in. However from the ISO I felt the trying to pair with Maria was genuine, and I think scum would have likely dropped the insistence much earlier in the hope to just ~gets~ a partner as opposed to stay out in the cold.

-Pie moved down because I really see nothing in her ISO that she can't be faking. She's being helpful, yes. She has reads, yes. But like... nothing that can't be faked.

It's one of my qualms with people like that (which is why I brought up the Equinox point), it's very hard for me to get a grasp on the people that don't post with ~passion~.

*nods@bold*

In post 1844, Dunnstral wrote:I might as well post my thoughts now

Gonna change "now" to "later tonight"

I've got quite a bit I've been thinking about though so expect an above average sized post from me

In post 1845, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1840, Shadow_step wrote:Maria TRs Dunnstral. I'm not so confident about him. Dunn is more townier when he is scum and his scum game is reading everyone as town(exaggeration. Try to get the point). This is from my exp with him.

I've played with wolf!Dunn once and it was while he was still doing his hyperaggressive/spammy playstyle, so was kinda hard to read (wolves swept ). i don't think I have a great meta on him, was null on him in that one and was kinda null on him in recent game when he was a mason.

I have one game where he was scum, dude had some opportunistic votes and I IDd him as a mafia, but got lynched D1 and the little twerp got everyone to ignore my points on him.

In post 1837, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 1825, Shadow_step wrote:Amongst Ladies I have Maria/MDS town. Nahdia is the IC. Vedith seems town tonally. Idk about Parama.
Pie is nullish town. Inspector nullish scum and Kagami scum.

Gents the scum pool is [SAD, Mh, Gamma]
Everyone else is town by POE

Since you don't really have strongly defined town reads, what is driving your suspicion of me and SAD?

I see

In post 1433, Shadow_step wrote:SAD I don't play from your book of how to play mafia. So what you do as scum doesn't apply to me. But thanks for scum claiming with that vote.

In post 1440, Shadow_step wrote:SAD, you're a misrepping moron. What I clearly meant was that I'd be okay with my lynch only if I had Maria as scum. I have her as town so I'm absolutely not okay with my lynch.

on SAD, not much other commentary from a quick ISO skim.

Also, thoughts on SAD's postings at me? If you think we're teammates, then that's just theater right? What makes them look like theater to you?

how he keeps saying nobody has reads when that is not the case.
His complaints about there being too many useless posts to read just feel links fake and scum who doesn't want to read anything. I myself have complained about there being too many posts to read as scum because I literally don't give a shit what town are talking about but I need to read it anyway because I can't afford to slip and that is boring as fuck.

You its because you haven't been Town telling like you generally do when you are town. IIRC you love being VT so I expected much more from you.