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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:23 am
by Davsto
In post 1815, Ausuka wrote:The reason I put you as a traitor is because I kinda think the BP thing is traitory? Nobody else has claimed it.

Those reasons are all wrong if you're a traitor yes but I do think you're possibly scum outside that?
I think it's an incredibly tenuous thing to base a read on in that case because there have been multiple town BPs and potentially no traitor at all and potentially a BP-traitor not admitting to being BP

When you have no other reason to scumread me it's a very weak thing to put

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:24 am
by Davsto
Also it's worth noting that it also said in the signup post that groupscum know how many traitors they have so if munitions did have autowin they'd have done it by now because they know if they have any traitors

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:25 am
by Ausuka
In post 1821, the worst wrote: ok confidence in Stefan read?
I don't even know. How am I supposed to assign some arbritary number to it? I think he's more likely Grits than anyone else and suggesting that I shoot the people I read as grits is :neutral:

Grits is literally the faction we need to care about less than any other. sk is second, Munitions is the priority by A LOT.

Remind me who you think are Munitions again?

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:25 am
by the worst
In post 1804, Ausuka wrote:Final guess:

The town are
Ausuka
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Vaxkiller
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The Grits is
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The Serial Killer is the worst.

The Munitions are light_ganski, Gammagooey, Davsto (traitor)
FTR people who have shots left.
If you think Stefan is scum and have any level of confidence I have a feeling it's mechanically best to shoot him and remove an antitown bullet?

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:26 am
by the worst
I actually like Vax for Munitions. Gamma is probably right given how close to the finish line we are. Davsto confuses me.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:27 am
by the worst
I think our major impasse is ganski. I'm pretty sure she's town dude

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:28 am
by Ausuka
Why?

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:28 am
by Davsto
Grits' shot wouldn't be an antitown shot, it'd be an anti-munitions shot, or at least an attempt at one, right? It'd be awful strategy for grits to target anything other than munitions tonight, because they're closer to losing to grits than we are.

I guess your point is that they could miss which is fair enough but I'm still not convinced

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:29 am
by the worst
I'm reasonably certain, still, that all NKs are comin my way

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:30 am
by Ausuka
We need to shoot for Munitions today and we can't really afford to miss either.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:30 am
by Ausuka
I'm fine with telling both groupscum to shoot duckling or to let him win.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:31 am
by the worst
In post 1831, Ausuka wrote:Why?
Consistent good posting, her d1 shot, has shown no signs of selective scumhunting, has no poor associative with dead Munitions scum.

Multiball reads are OK at best but I feel OK here.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:31 am
by Ausuka
if duckling isn't SK we're probably just done for anyway. Town EV is really low here.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:33 am
by the worst
OOC Echo Bay Munitions are my favourite faction in the Echo Bayniverse

in context they must die

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:34 am
by Ausuka
I mean, off the top of my head, scum is proven to have bussed NM, her associatives with Theta are pretty poor, and the other two points are kinda vague and I'm not sure if they apply here.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:35 am
by the worst
Sorry, can you refresh me on Theta associatives?

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:36 am
by the worst
In post 1839, Ausuka wrote:kinda vague and I'm not sure if they apply here
this is a good summary of all MB scumhunting... :lol:

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:37 am
by Ausuka
In post 769, light_ganski wrote: Theta alpine, you're on PRICKS but you've not said much about people yet. What are you thinking? (and that goes for anyone else who isn't giving detailed thoughts tbh)
In post 891, light_ganski wrote: Theta Alpine - Came in late, would like to see more but has been thoughtful and considered and has put forward who he thinks is town as well

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:37 am
by the worst
I don't recall disagreeing with either of those statements at the time

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:38 am
by Ausuka
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:39 am
by light_ganski
In post 1839, Ausuka wrote: scum is proven to have bussed NM
Really? I thought theta on NM was the classic "I'll hard scum read my buddy but not actually shoot/vote them"


I mean your mileage may vary on that but it's how it looked to me


And I've explained my NM shot so

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:40 am
by light_ganski
I hardly think either of those statements is unfair

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:40 am
by the worst
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:41 am
by Ausuka
In post 1843, the worst wrote:I don't recall disagreeing with either of those statements at the time
The first quote was specific w/ talking to Theta over other inactive people. The second quote seems like really weird reasoning to TR somebody and to be honest just looks forced. Especially the bit where she townreads Theta because she put forward her townreads.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 1:43 am
by Davsto
In post 1833, the worst wrote:I'm reasonably certain, still, that all NKs are comin my way
Unless Grits is a strongman there's no way they'll bother shooting you when you're claimed SK and there's a chance that munitions could have a strongman. It's 100% not worth it. Grits strat at this point is to covertly work with town (potentially overtly by claiming if they wanted, since it prevents town from shooting them, but probably not because that is painting a target on your back for munitions to shoot and since it's kills not lynches there's a risk a town member will probably just shoot you anyway) and get rid of munitions since they're the biggest threat to grits survival. SK is in the same situation, so Grits probably won't target SK as SK is also going for Munitions.

That's my guess for how those factions would be playing at this point, anyway.