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Yo where the fuck is PP

I feel like hes gonna flake out based on his claims of catching up yesterday and now nothing almost 2 full days later =/

Dva how does your opinion of Oka as active and engaged gel with his posts at the end of the day yesterday and general lack of activity and engagement around that time? I personally don't see anything at all telling in that game you linked for him that should give you a non-scum read. The tone reads to me very similar to here.

As for A50, I don't see any reason in what you said to town read him. He has a meta, and its being a troll. I think all the shit you said for him is completely NAI and in no way a strong reason to hard town read him to the extent of scum reading people who town read him. Like even if you do truly believe in your heart of hearts that A50 is town here, I just don't see the expectation of other players sharing that read as a reasonable expectation. Same goes for Oka.

Those two reads being held strongly and in a way that is reasonable to expect from others is the only way that I see your response to Mew's list as genuine. Like if his read list was 3 obvtown players I would understand but if its 3 players that you consider obvtown for not obvious reasons than I honestly don't see where your suspicion comes from here.

I also don't think your focus on setup analysis at this point in the game fits within my sense of your meta so far, which seems to be much more focused on dayplay by default. It seems out of character for you to be throwing all this emphasis on solving the game design on D2.

Also, I really don't like Nako's "Ha scum is bad" post regarding the BEF killed followed up almost immediately with requesting a massclaim. Lots of scum motivation to make those posts back to back if you happened to know for sure you didn't try to kill BEF.

I currently want to lynch within {Nako Oka Dva} pretty sure.

In post 1828, Sephiroth wrote:As for A50, .... He has a meta, and its being a troll.

You're totally confusing A50 with AP. AP is indeed a troll. A50 is not. It's the serious account.

I'm not.

mews ISO gives me weird vibes tho =/

i need gamma to tell me if A50 v Sephiroth was a normal emotional reaction from a50 because if AP is truly like a persona account then i know nothing about A50

VOTE: PenguinPower

VC wise this would make the most sense in that I think he has a pretty high scum equity with how things transpired yesterday + gives the most information with wagon dynamics cuz he got run up to L1 and had a sizeable mech-town following on his wagon.

Sorry, all. Peak season hit work a bit earlier than I expected. I'm back now though.

In post 1834, OkaPoka wrote:VC wise this would make the most sense in that I think he has a pretty high scum equity with how things transpired yesterday + gives the most information with wagon dynamics cuz he got run up to L1 and had a sizeable mech-town following on his wagon.

Explain?

In post 1829, Sephiroth wrote:I currently want to lynch within {Nako Oka Dva} pretty sure.

Why?

In post 1827, Sephiroth wrote:I feel like hes gonna flake out based on his claims of catching up yesterday and now nothing almost 2 full days later =/

I'm not.

In post 1826, Sephiroth wrote:Yo where the fuck is PP

Real life.

VOTE: Gamma

Why are we not voting here?

6 people have claimed PR?

In post 1103, skitter30 wrote:

VOTE COUNT 1.19

PenguinPower (6)

- Kokichi Oma, DVa, Gamma Emerald, Sephiroth, Tchill13, BrightEyedFish

Tchill13 (4)

- OkaPoka, Joey_, Almost50, Nako

Nako(2)

- DrDolittle, Mewtaph

BrightEyedFish (1)

- PenguinPower

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-12 11:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- DrDolittle is v/la until Friday
- i missed the pagetop

we have you at L1 here yet your wagon interestingly dissolved rather than having scum hard push you if you are town.

kokichi, tchill, bef all town so worst case scenario would be that Dva, gamma, sephiroth are the scumteam if you are town

but i dont see why scum wouldn't push you harder at L1 if your town, thus for the sake of me wanting to see whether we might have a high scum concentration right there or your scum, i want to have ur flip.

In post 1840, PenguinPower wrote:6 people have claimed PR?

i dont think so?
3 by my count, others are hypo

So, I think there is a a lot I'm not going to get a good grasp on because I wasn't here. While I get kokichi and joey's ambivalence due to their claim, I don't like the aftermath From what I remember Joey is a 'in the moment' reader like me.

I'd really like to hear more from him in particular.

In post 1841, OkaPoka wrote:

In post 1103, skitter30 wrote:

VOTE COUNT 1.19

PenguinPower (6)

- Kokichi Oma, DVa, Gamma Emerald, Sephiroth, Tchill13, BrightEyedFish

Tchill13 (4)

- OkaPoka, Joey_, Almost50, Nako

Nako(2)

- DrDolittle, Mewtaph

BrightEyedFish (1)

- PenguinPower

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-12 11:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- DrDolittle is v/la until Friday
- i missed the pagetop

we have you at L1 here yet your wagon interestingly dissolved rather than having scum hard push you if you are town.

kokichi, tchill, bef all town so worst case scenario would be that Dva, gamma, sephiroth are the scumteam if you are town

but i dont see why scum wouldn't push you harder at L1 if your

(you're*)

town, thus for the sake of me wanting to see whether we might have a high scum concentration right there or your scum, i want to have ur

(even less grammatically correct)

flip.

That's actually a fair point. Doubt the entire scum team was on my wagon, but I was an easy lynch.

In post 1842, OkaPoka wrote:

In post 1840, PenguinPower wrote:6 people have claimed PR?

i dont think so?
3 by my count, others are hypo

I was skimming and saw 1780. That was incorrect?

i think dva was theorizing if we had vig(who shot bef), nako hypo claim is real claim, my hypo claim is real game etc.

Interesting to note:
We have PP wagon hit L1, then A50 gives intent to hammer to force out a claim (never follows through as ->
We hit an A50 emotional "break", then Sephiroth votes A50, putting down Penguin to L2.
Wagon remains stagnant, and essentially DDL starts a new counterwagon on BEF.
But the BEF (town) wagon gains steam as a counterwagon from non PP wagon-ers, also gains steam extremely quickly.
Only Sephiroth is a former PP wagoner.
Joey_ and Dva have a quick conversation, then Dva initiates a swap to tchill, PP wagon-ers go directly to Tchill.
The breaking point I believe is when Nako, a BEF wagoner switches to l1 Tchill. Literally any swap would have switched the momentum of the wagons from either BEF or Tchill, scum can be pretty content here.
and then we have the whole tchill mess.
But both BEF and tchill are town, so its kinda hard to analyze here.

In post 1843, PenguinPower wrote:So, I think there is a a lot I'm not going to get a good grasp on because I wasn't here. While I get kokichi and joey's ambivalence due to their claim, I don't like the aftermath From what I remember Joey is a 'in the moment' reader like me.

I'd really like to hear more from him in particular.

Yes i prefer to be extremely active and see the posts unfolds over reading 2-3 new pages at the same time. Only catching up is just not my playstyle and its giving me a hard time trying to read

a couple of things.
1) I'm giving a50 benefit of the doubt. there's no sense in even discussing lynching a claimed town investigative role that is not counterclaimed.
2) Oka:"We have PP wagon hit L1, then A50 gives intent to hammer to force out a claim (never follows through as ->" a50 never intended to vote. the hammer threat was empty. plus you should recall that only 2/3 of the votes on PP at that time were "serious votes". what you are pushing in your scenario is misleading.