Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:27 am
by Creature
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In post 1645, RadiantCowbells wrote:ok so regarding brigitte's iso we only have two real mentions of guiltylion
Spoiler: Brigitte GL posts[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10800408#p10800408post 674[/url], Brigitte"]@GuiltyLion, What is the context of this post? This seems very overreaction to RCs read.In post 495, GuiltyLion wrote:RC you're frankly just bad at reading me
I can't remember a single game we've played recently where you've correctly townread me
if you're town here that'll be three in a row of you paranoia scumreading me for no reason
my scum game is not that good
and if my associatives with your scumreads are sloppy that makes me even more likely town
[/spoilerIn post 677, Brigitte wrote:mbaki has a certain flow to his posts that make it seem natural, so nothing has given me pauses. I am not sure about GuiltyLion yet.In post 672, Fractured wrote:I agree. I am in a similar boat, this restrained posting is weird for me to get used to. How do you feel about GuiltyLion/mbaki?
Random distancey post calling GL out on overreacting into I'm not sure about GuiltyLion yet feels very SvS.
The fact that this constitutes the sum total of the interactions from this direction feels even moreso.
completely avoids the topic of brigitte's alignment by hiding behind claims when it initially comes up. notably this isn't actually that scummy in the grand scheme of things, moreso in the context of the iso.In post 360, GuiltyLion wrote:not really interested in the Brigitte/Reality Check/Radiant discussion except to affirm that I buy both of Brigitte's/Reality Check's claims regarding eachother and have them both as town
Spoiler: responses to the aforementioned brigitte posts[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10802141#p10802141
post 807[/url], GuiltyLion"]
again these both feel very busywork, methodical, checking off the boxes of having an interaction with my buddy posts. purely exchange of information, neither post actually goes anywhere, there's no feeling or impulse in either of them from either perspective.
but nahhh
I noted that GL claimed doc on me, shrugged, and continued writing the case. We'll see where this goes.[/quote]
the context is I had a number of townreads (implosion, mastina) either scumreading me or angling to scumread me, and the past couple of games I've played with RC he's scumread me when I've been town - last time being Half Flag Nightless where he literally attempted his gladiator thing on me for two straight days - and I did not want to have to deal with that again in this game. I definitely overreacted a bit but I also strongly did not feel like entertaining the direction the thread was heading.[/quote]In post 674, Brigitte wrote:@GuiltyLion, What is the context of this post? This seems very overreaction to RCs read.In post 495, GuiltyLion wrote:RC you're frankly just bad at reading me
I can't remember a single game we've played recently where you've correctly townread me
if you're town here that'll be three in a row of you paranoia scumreading me for no reason
my scum game is not that good
and if my associatives with your scumreads are sloppy that makes me even more likely town
[/spoilerIn post 809, GuiltyLion wrote:from the scumgame I saw from Eddie when I played with him a year or two ago, he's extremely good at sounding natural tonally. I only started catching onto him halfway through D2 when I noticed he wasn't actually ever taking stances or participating substantially in important questions on game events and players. which is the same kinda vibe I've gotten from him so far this gameIn post 677, Brigitte wrote:mbaki has a certain flow to his posts that make it seem natural, so nothing has given me pauses. I am not sure about GuiltyLion yet.In post 672, Fractured wrote:I agree. I am in a similar boat, this restrained posting is weird for me to get used to. How do you feel about GuiltyLion/mbaki?
again these both feel very busywork, methodical, checking off the boxes of having an interaction with my buddy posts. purely exchange of information, neither post actually goes anywhere, there's no feeling or impulse in either of them from either perspective.
In post 1376, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm willing to sheep Reality Check on town!Fractured for today, especially if Reality Check is more confident on Fractured than Brigitte - who I could compromise on if Radiant is absolutely sure on
my first choice is Michael Scott or Varsoon lynches today
I'm townreading Johnny English more than I was previously despite still disagreeing with a number of his reads
I'll be around for the rest of the day
oh maybe i could vote brigitteIn post 1377, GuiltyLion wrote:actually nah I re-ISO'd Brigitte and I'm not feeling scum there
but nahhh
In post 1533, GuiltyLion wrote:@mbaki - just 3 games it's not actually statistically significant, but I had him correctly as town twice and caught him as scum page 1 in the other game
I'm starting to feel the same way. I don't like any of the Brigitte/Alonzo/Parm lynches but the game is starting to feel murky enough that I'm worried maybe I'm wrong on a scum in the three. I don't think it's something that would change pre flips though.
outside of implo/reality check i'm still missing some absolute locktown reads which is making sorting the rest of the players hard.
and p-edit with that implosion vote, honestly the brigitte wagon looks pretty good comp wise. and thinking about it more that question about why I was townreading her may have been designed to make me look bad if she were to flip scum
and again, pays lip service towards being interested in a brigitte vote maybe but doesn't actually go there. feels svs just tonally as well. also the 'designed to make me look bad if she were to flip scum' is pure scum being aware of the associatives.In post 1534, GuiltyLion wrote:if I just had a green check on Michael Scott or RadCow right now I'd feel so much better about a Brigitte vote
I noted that GL claimed doc on me, shrugged, and continued writing the case. We'll see where this goes.[/quote]
Didn't you just say cases are bad?