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In post 475, Chemist1422 wrote:

VC 1.5

Kop (4) [L-1]

- Almost50, Iconeum, Datisi, Billy Pilgrim

Emperor flippyNips (1)

- Kop

Tchill13 (1)

- Klick

Datisi (1)

- Tchill13

Not Voting (4)

- Luca Blight, Emperor flippyNips

With 9 alive, majority is 5.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-08-28 07:00:00)

Notes

Almost50 replaces Robbnva.

The Kop wagon supports at least one of [A50, Datisi, LUV] being scum.

In post 1407, Chemist1422 wrote:

VC 1.13

Emperor flippyNips (5) [L-0]

- Luca Blight, Datisi, Iconeum, Klick, Alisae

Luca Blight (1)

- Emperor flippyNips

Datisi (1)

- Tchill13

Not Voting (2)

- Almost50, Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 alive, majority is 5.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-08-28 07:00:00)

Notes

Klick is V/LA for a few days.
Flip will likely be delayed until I’m out of school.

And the Emp wagon implies at least one scum in [Luca, Datisi, me]

In post 1156, Datisi wrote:Mhm, I'm starting to reconsider it too. Especially since I've noticed something that is either 9000 IQ scum!Luca play or genuine Town. Or maybe I'm just being an idiot.

Did you ever post what this was?

I haven't. I'm out of the house right now, it'd be a bit tricky to pull that from Day 1 on phone, I'll post it in some 30-45 mins. Has to do with what I thought was his townslip.

Oh, and UNVOTE:

Can you explain your read on me Datisi?

This is the post that I thought was a VT slip. At the time where both my and Luca's wagons seemed like a possible lynch.

In post 1131, Luca Blight wrote:@ Datisi: I’ve only skimmed the recent pages, but it’s just a feeling I got from your interaction with Icon. I will try and review it later.

You’re a player that has divided opinion, therefore it would naturally be an informative Lynch. Mine would be also for the same reason, but the difference is that you have claimed VT and I haven’t

(claimed VT)

, and I feel like I’ve done nothing to warrant being lynched on D1, but then perhaps I’m biased on that.

If this truly was a slip or not is less important now, since I don't think Luca's scum. But would be nice if I were right on that.

In post 1783, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:No because I don’t think that’s why they were killed. This wasn’t an obvious night kill so scum either killed them because they thought they were PR,

to protect a partner, or to frame a townie. Alisae was playing really aggressive and loudly for scum to think she was a PR so I’m much more confident in the last two.

Yeah, sure, lemme just reread parts of D2 real quick. Can I ask you the same (if you ever gave a read on me) and to explain this?

I am out of sync in this game (not the only one) and it feels best if you lynch me today because I won't be of much use in LyLo

My best bet is to go to random.org and let it decide where I should be voting, but not tell. When asked for reasoning I'd probably say "just because".

If you are Town then I’ll be really disappointed. I can understand feeling out of sync in a game, but if you’re not even going to try then what’s the point? You’re just letting the rest of us down, as there is no way to really distinguish whether you scum who has given up or Town who is not bothered. There is so much info now and the game is there for the taking, and here you are saying ‘Lynch me as I’m out of sync’? I’m sorry but that is pathetic.

Okay. My new readslis looks like this:
{Icon}
{Tchill, Luca}
{LUV, A50}
{Klick}

I'll skip the explanations of the top 3.

- One thing that pings the fuck out of me with Klick:

In post 1824, Klick wrote:I kinda want to lynch Datisi today.

Why? You were so confident in A50/Datisi. From Town!Klick pov, what does it matter which one of us gets lynched first? In 1820 you said it doesn't feel right. In 1823 you're already back on the A50/Datisi train. But why not lynch A50, when others have already said they're willing to do so?

Because there's a chance I'll get confirmed tonight. And I'm (pretty much) the only person here who's not TRing you. So what's the play? Get rid of me .

Pretty much everyone's agreed to bet the game that there's at least one scum in A50/LUV. Why not go through lynching them first then?

- done pretty much nothing, and that wolfy hop-on on Icon.
- feeling like his posts are overly wordy while they don't say much. I also have no idea what your reads are in Day 2?

Why guess is Klick/(A50 or LUV).
VOTE: Klick

Icon and Klick are near enough conf-Town for me; I’m not considering their lynches for the foreseeable future.

Today we must Lynch either A50 or Uzi - not only is there a high chance at least one of them is scum, but the thought of them both being alive during a LYLO situation is hard to bear.

A50 clearly has no intent to participate in the future, nor will he replace-out, so I’m struggling to see what alternative we have but to Lynch him here.

Uzi is at least continuing to produce some content, although it is minimal.

Feels like flipping a coin, but I ultimately think A50 has to go.

VOTE: Almost50

We lynch A50 today.

Scum probably kill in (klick/luca/me)

LUV/datisi will, still be in the game 100 percent. If not then scum are killing off a mislynch candidate in lylo, which they won't do.

And I'm pretty sure one of the vt's lied and is gonna claim something in lylo. Highly doubt all those vt claims are true.

In post 1835, Luca Blight wrote:If you are Town then I’ll be really disappointed. I can understand feeling out of sync in a game, but if you’re not even going to try then what’s the point? You’re just letting the rest of us down, as there is no way to really distinguish whether you scum who has given up or Town who is not bothered. There is so much info now and the game is there for the taking, and here you are saying ‘Lynch me as I’m out of sync’? I’m sorry but that is pathetic.

If you think anything I say or do will help you're far off base. Both Tchill & Icon have decided I should be lynched and there's no way to change that. ANYTHING I say or do will be seen as a scum move by me. Suppose I suddenly decided to effort. "That's scum him trying to get out of the nooze". Suppose I stayed the way I am. "That's scum him giving up". There is no way I'm getting out of this, and even if I somehow managed to escape the lynch today I am the designated lynch tomorrow. Too much trouble for no gain at all.

All you've done is complain that you don't know what's going on or complain that you can't do anything at this point.

And you went out of your way to call me someone that's mislynched early all the time and provided one game of evidence.

You decided to call someone out on that and then play like this in the same game?

In post 1836, Datisi wrote:You were so confident in A50/Datisi. From Town!Klick pov, what does it matter which one of us gets lynched first?

Apologies if I portrayed a large amount of confidence, I didn't mean to when I said this:

In post 1799, Klick wrote:Is it A50/Datisi then?

In 1820 you said it doesn't feel right. In 1823 you're already back on the A50/Datisi train.

1823 doesn't do anything to express I'm 'back on the A50/Datisi train'. Show me where you got that impression.

But why not lynch A50, when others have already said they're willing to do so?

Because I'm starting to think he could be town.

Pretty much everyone's agreed to bet the game that there's at least one scum in A50/LUV. Why not go through lynching them first then?

Way to shift the goalpost - I don't think anyone has specifically agreed to that. I'm here to lynch scum regardless of how active/helpful anyone here is.

I'm also amused by the fact that you throw this out and then immediately go against it by voting me.

Yep datisi has definitely progressively gotten worse.

In post 1841, Tchill13 wrote:All you've done is complain that you don't know what's going on or complain that you can't do anything at this point.

And you went out of your way to call me someone that's mislynched early all the time and provided one game of evidence.

You decided to call someone out on that and then play like this in the same game?

OK. fair enough. I sincerely apologize for defending you and I promise not to do that ever again.

All I ask. Players that don't play the game at all should replace out instead of defending others. Pretty reasonable request imo.

In post 1842, Klick wrote:1823 doesn't do anything to express I'm 'back on the A50/Datisi train'. Show me where you got that impression.

In post 1823, Klick wrote:I'm going back to the eternal question: what scumteam actually decides to kill Alisae over Icon last night?

Knowing what we know now, scum probably don't have much power themselves

considering all we have is Loyal Mailman.

They could probably reasonably assume town didn't have much power. I don't think the immediate assumption is that we have a protective with a Cop claim.

Datisi/A50 both noticed and reacted to the claim. Luca claims to have noticed but didn't give any indication of that until D2 (but tbf I do think he noticed - I think he's the type to have read through the whole thread as either alignment). LUV didn't acknowledge the claim yesterday. Tchill actively claims to have not seen it.
But then Alisae's strong townreads were

Tchill/LUV/myself. I really don't think they choose to kill her.

You said you don't think it's Tchill/LUV/you, and Icon's referred to as what he claims. That leaves me, A50 and Luca.

In post 1842, Klick wrote:

But why not lynch A50, when others have already said they're willing to do so?

Because I'm starting to think he could be town.

People wanna lynch him, mind explaining why?

In post 1842, Klick wrote:

Pretty much everyone's agreed to bet the game that there's at least one scum in A50/LUV. Why not go through lynching them first then?

Way to shift the goalpost - I don't think anyone has specifically agreed to that. I'm here to lynch scum regardless of how active/helpful anyone here is.

I'm also amused by the fact that you throw this out and then immediately go against it by voting me.

By my readslist and what I wrote I think to be the team, I thought it was obvious that this was a rhetorical question.

In post 1844, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1841, Tchill13 wrote:All you've done is complain that you don't know what's going on or complain that you can't do anything at this point.

And you went out of your way to call me someone that's mislynched early all the time and provided one game of evidence.

You decided to call someone out on that and then play like this in the same game?

OK. fair enough. I sincerely apologize for defending you and I promise not to do that ever again.

Who does this post help?
Are you here to play a game of Mafia, A50? Are you having fun?
We want to play with you. But if you don't want to play we don't want you to stick around not wanting to play.

Fine!

Datisi, 1823 was me taking a step back from my reads and just looking at who had motivation to kill Alisae last night. From that lens, the likely suspects are you/A50/Luca, based on the reasoning in 1823.
There's a distinction between that lens and the one I used when I was looking through A50's ISO earlier today.

People seem to want to lynch A50 through a combination of PoE and him not engaging much with the game. Upon reflection I don't feel that reasoning is adequate.