Mini Theme 2103 - E Bastard

[PMysterious]

This, was possibly the most ridiculous set-up I've ever seen in a Mafia game. Good game everyone.

[Vorkuta]

I'm uh....
not going to brag about this win I suppose

[popsofctown]

I think it is very cool that Kelly Chen is an 05er who is actively playing.

I'm very disappointed that Korina's attitude towards his blatant, willful, and unambiguous cheating is half-apologetic, if it can even be called that. NK15 put an incredible amount of work into his setup, and Korina broke the rules in a way that made the setup totally unable to function the way it was intended - it was a game with a nonzero chance of victory for all three factions and worth continuing, but such a different game.

[popsofctown]

And for the record Korina, you don't have any kind of "moral high ground" about whether Not Known 15 designed your role "wrong". It has very rarely been done, and there is no consensus on roles like that. Experientially, I have modded a game that also had a player trapped in a solo PT and that VERY PLAYER rejoined the second run of the setup within 24 hours of it becoming available again. Post restrictions are also very common, and very much part of the breadth of what one might expect in a bastard game, and the harshest post restrictions are often identical to the N0 dead role, and there's no site consensus those are "beyond bastard" either.

[nomnomnom]

Yeah like this is a bastard game, and the role while very annoying if you're a high poster is very much workable so I don't know why you thought you were justified in doing that really. It was just straight up stupid.

Also I'm confused as to why you didn't just replace out, what kind of logic is "I don't like this role and that means nobody will"?

[nomnomnom]

Although I'm unsure what the mod would have done in this situation, awkward to replace a "dead" player lol

[popsofctown]

Games with "it's not over when you're dead" mechanics ask for replacements all the time. I don't remember whether NK15 was keeping the "it's not over when your dead" element secret for the fun of it this game, but he could either use private methods to locate a replacement, or have done a tenth as much damage to the game in publicly seeking one.

[Kelly Chen]

I think it is very cool that Kelly Chen is an 05er who is actively playing.

Thanks for noticing, this is my first game since Mini Theme 810, over 10 years ago...

[Doctor Drew]

Yeah like this is a bastard game, and the role while very annoying if you're a high poster is very much workable so I don't know why you thought you were justified in doing that really. It was just straight up stupid.

Also I'm confused as to why you didn't just replace out, what kind of logic is "I don't like this role and that means nobody will"?

Also, I was in the PT after D2. He could have been a little patient and we could have pretended we had our own super secret cult and posted up a storm!

[cyrus62]

i love game plays post in the scum pt cyrus has us both as scum but cant rally the town .

[cyrus62]

Cyrus has us as scum together but I'm not sure this guy has the power to rally any votes given his playstyle

[cyrus62]

so going add that to my sig lol

[Chickadee]

I just got really frustrated being the only cult. And D2 I had to keep up with lynching Drew, otherwise it would out me. And rolling VT before being cult was frustrating as well. I wasn't kidding when I said I'd rolled VT like 18 times. I seriously cannot remember a game recently where I wasn't VT. And it's seriously getting depressing. I figured I would have won if I survived, but I was too frustrated to keep up the facade.

And I told town not to lynch me...and no one listened.

Korina, I would have loved the role you got, just FYI.

[cyrus62]

I just got really frustrated being the only cult. And D2 I had to keep up with lynching Drew, otherwise it would out me. And rolling VT before being cult was frustrating as well. I wasn't kidding when I said I'd rolled VT like 18 times. I seriously cannot remember a game recently where I wasn't VT. And it's seriously getting depressing. I figured I would have won if I survived, but I was too frustrated to keep up the facade.

And I told town not to lynch me...and no one listened.

Korina, I would have loved the role you got, just FYI.

i tried

[Kelly Chen]

We could have lynched Cyrus instead but his scum claim didn't come with a self-vote. What a tease.

[cyrus62]

lol

[shos]

I think it is very cool that Kelly Chen is an 05er who is actively playing.

Thanks for noticing, this is my first game since Mini Theme 810, over 10 years ago...

wow, nice!!!
Also my first game in about 2 years. It was fun despite all

[cyrus62]

also @icon my hats off to you for being pcoketed two games that we played together

[cyrus62]

1st by insom 2nd vork laughs.

[Vorkuta]

@modperson

-Is there a particular reason you wouldnt share our wincon with us?
-I couldn't find drew's recruitment criteria? Random? Any restrictions?

[Not Known 15]

@modperson

-Is there a particular reason you wouldnt share our wincon with us?
-I couldn't find drew's recruitment criteria? Random? Any restrictions?

-Initial confusion. The flips showed your real wincon btw.
-they were picking a death miller that 1. wasn't dead 2. wasn't about to be dead(target of the nightkill) 3.wasn't the cult-flipping death miller if another one was recruitable 4.was randomized amongst all remaining applicable death millers.

[Kelly Chen]

Did you prepare text for Iconeum dreams or would the text have come from the players sending them?

Was trying to think what would be the worst role-related danger of letting Iconeum live to the last day and NKing Shos/Cyrus instead. It seems like there was no risk like that, except I'm not totally clear what's the maximum info Iconeum could have received that night.

[Not Known 15]

Did you prepare text for Iconeum dreams or would the text have come from the players sending them?

Was trying to think what would be the worst role-related danger of letting Iconeum live to the last day and NKing Shos/Cyrus instead. It seems like there was no risk like that, except I'm not totally clear what's the maximum info Iconeum could have received that night.

"You had a nightmare about Vorkuta"

"You had a pleasant dream about nomnomnom"

... nothing else.

[Vorkuta]

shoot
that damning?

ouch

[Chemist1422]

what if I told y'all that I had a dream that Drew flipped jester

would that make you unvote him

that makes this infinitely funnier in hindsight then