Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[Firebringer]

Good morning.

I think there's very low odds I don't support an NDMath lynch today, but I will still do my due diligence and look into the game further regardless.

ur scum aren't u

[Taly]

Oh wait, I misread this. I'm locktown?

Yup. This doesn't feel like your scumgame at all.

While you're correct, I want to hear why you think so.

I'm trying to parse between how a player who knows me will read me (based off meta) versus another, which I know is variable to playstyle, but

you/Blake

have the same conclusions of me, you want to follow her, she suspects you as you're in a pool of potential scum for her.

I want to see the nuances of your reads/solves.

Do you think my questionnaire towards Blake on her replies (or lack of) to my Fuzzy/NDMath towncases are reasonable?

Link?

I made 2 wallposts towncasing NDMath EoD1 and you haven't batted an eyelash to it.

I also towncased Fuzzy, and I wanted you to critique it because you said it had very poor logic, you never did.

Nothing about your stance here is genuine.

Also my question about whether my

Churros

POV is misled.

Essentially, my opening post this D2 begged a good bit of content from her.

Good morning.

I think there's very low odds I don't support an NDMath lynch today, but I will still do my due diligence and look into the game further regardless.

ur scum aren't u

no u

Fire

, I'm one of the few people not giving you a pass as town based off your predecessor, what does that say about my alignment or mindset?

[Aloratom]

I'm having a hard time sorting NDMath, Blake and Churros right now, and I'll have more on that.

Taly, I'm Town reading you, but the outrage is a bit suspect given that you were against a Fuzzy lynch I thought but ended up on his wagon. I need to look at exactly how that occurred. Was it at EOD? Can you explain how that happened?

[Blake Belladonna]

Why would it only be a troll account though?

I strongly doubt a lot of players who are aware that Yshtola Rhul is an account by me would tolerate the way I play on that account. I hope you are aware that there are times I get a lot of pressure from other players for not having confident scumreads on day one, or for not playing to some arbitrary standard that some people hold me to without necessarily having even played with me before.

It is much easier to tolerate such a playstyle from an account that is unknown, with no expectations of them playing any particular way. As long as there is something there to work with, it is more commonly accepted among most players.

Let's say you wished to play support again, would you do another alt instead of just playing as yshlota?

Yes.

Considering you play with outed alts I find that kinda hard to believe unless you talk about it somewhere?

This is an irrelevant point. Blake Belladonna's playstyle differs in playstyle by adjusting how I present myself and my thoughts to other players in a way that is commonly more blunt and to the point. Yshtola Rhul purposely is vague and roundabout because one of my goals with that account was to push as little as possible on wagons outside of my vote. To this end, I have to be careful how I phrase my thoughts and suspicions, because my overall goal is to steer other players towards reaching my same conclusions and leading the charge for me.

It's notably much harder to do this in games where more detailed thoughts are expected to be outputed throughout the game, so it was necessary to switch towards a grandstanding and more aggressively roleplayed approach in order to say what I needed to say without shifting the power structure of the town too heavily in the process.

It was actually working, to some extent.

Links would be great.[/quote]

[Aloratom]

The extra kill has to be from a form of vigilante. (1-shot, full, JOAT, etc.)

In fact

VOTE: Blake

I didn't forget you taly I just think this is more interesting to pursue right now.

'iInteresting' is a good word choice here.
VOTE: Blake

She was pretty much the only person who thought fuzzy's lynch would probably hit scum (maybe barring pops who fuzzy was tunnelling.) And I find it scummy how the flip against her reads almost makes her more confident in her reads.
I agree with Churros that her answers about Rhul don't quite hold up either.

I thought your read on Blake was Town. In fact, yesterday you said something about it not making any sense at all her being scum. Now she's hard scum? How does your read flip like that? It's essentially the obverse of what you just accused her of doing.

[Blake Belladonna]

The extra kill has to be from a form of vigilante. (1-shot, full, JOAT, etc.)

In fact

VOTE: Blake

I didn't forget you taly I just think this is more interesting to pursue right now.

'iInteresting' is a good word choice here.
VOTE: Blake

She was pretty much the only person who thought fuzzy's lynch would probably hit scum (maybe barring pops who fuzzy was tunnelling.) And I find it scummy how the flip against her reads almost makes her more confident in her reads.
I agree with Churros that her answers about Rhul don't quite hold up either.

VOTE: NDMath

This post is not town.

Can you expand on your reasoning? I’m just trying to sort out this exchange

It is a combination of the following.

1. There are two points that Churros did not bring forward already. The idea that I was the one person thinking that TheFuzzyLogic99 would flip scum is patently false, as there were markedly few players voicing a townread onthat slot, and several had stated that TheFuzzyLogic99 was within their PoE pools. The second point is that the flips making me more confident in my reads is scummy, which is easily disputed if you read this post a second time. I specifically pointed out, via the "still," that my reads were similar to what they were despite the flips, and I pointed out the predominant reason why this was the case. It is a very lazy point to work with
2. The tertiary reasoning increases the odds that it is a sheep vote from Churros, especially since there was that effort put in towards adding two extra reasons that don't quite add up for the scumread.
3. There is a sensible motive for the vote, since there is a case that can be made against me beginning the day by saying I would likely be pushing him today regardless. There's also the fact that in the case that NDMath is part of the mafia faction, they would likely expect this same approach to the day phase. Attempting to swing the pendulum away from him before it begins properly is not a bad strategy in this case.

[Blake Belladonna]

Good morning.

I think there's very low odds I don't support an NDMath lynch today, but I will still do my due diligence and look into the game further regardless.

I made 2 wallposts towncasing

NDMath

EoD1 and you haven't batted an eyelash to it.

I also towncased

Fuzzy

, and I wanted you to critique it because you said it had very poor logic, you never did.

Nothing about your stance here is genuine.

Nothing about these two points indicate a lack of genuineness.

If I had to sum up my thoughts as of right now, I don't believe I am significantly wrong in my reads, still.

There are some things I wish to go over still, but the scum in this game are likely to be those predominantly in the background of the game. This indicates Something_Smart, Aloratom, NDMath, and eyestott. I suspect two scum are in this list, minimum, at this point in time.

Of the rest, I believe Churros is the most likely to be scum.

OK, walk me through

Churros

in full.

I will be blunt with you, Taly. It's simply a case that I'm not townreading him like I am other players outside of that list. I think I know pretty definitively who he is at this point by how he's been playing around me this day phase, and I still find it very strange that he would push you the way he did. I don't get stuck in the details because I simply don't read people by what they're doing, I read into their mindsets and how their thoughts are progressing.

[Firebringer]

Fire, I'm one of the few people not giving you a pass as town based off your predecessor, what does that say about my alignment or mindset?

Just tells me ur attention seeking

[Taly]

I'm having a hard time sorting NDMath, Blake and Churros right now, and I'll have more on that.

Looking foward to that.

Taly, I'm Town reading you, but the outrage is a bit suspect given that you were against a Fuzzy lynch I thought but ended up on his wagon. I need to look at exactly how that occurred. Was it at EOD? Can you explain how that happened?

Yes, it was at EoD1, I went to sleep hours before deadline approached and I had to settle onto one of the two

NDMath/Fuzzy

wagons.

I was not keen on lynching either of them, I said this when I casted the vote, and well before that with my vote on

Churros

and skepticism of the

NDMath

wagon.

1710/1711 is my ISO on

NDMath

and the post I made after that outlined my thinking on both slots and the game.

At the time, I thought my vote was L-1 because

Pops

said so and I was too tired from ISOing to check, so I saw it as the more likely wagon, and went with the plist.

(Also because I was vibing with Pops a lot at that point)

I joined to help a consensus be made.

But ultimately, while I townread both of them, I thought

Fuzzy

was the optimal lynch for two reasons:

1)

Fuzzy

had a lot less variety of content than

NDMath

, so ease in sorting him throughout the game wouldn't have become as easy for me as it were

NDMath

, who I didn't ISO until literally before my vote since I wasn't too confident in the wagon on him.

2)

NDMath

had more content, so it'd be easier to engage him, as well as sort.

I'm not surprised

Fuzzy

flipped town even though I hoped I was wrong.

My "outrage" this dayphase stems from the fact that I towncased someone, majority of the plist wrote it off, and we mislynched. As well as two people I was wanting to work with are NKed. So I feel both justified and vindicated at my high-energy pushing the plist.

Also, because I had a huge accusation of me being S/S with the townread-mislynchbait I was defending after being tunneled for half the dayphase, so I was on the verge of siteflaking, tbh. Had

Fuzzy

flipped scum, as I thought was possible but highly doubted it, I would've been hardpushed this dayphase with incorrect justification off of a basis I couldn't defend myself against.

Which was another reason I voted to flip

Fuzzy

, I wanted to see how potential scum/town would push the S/S associative tell on me preemptively, or if the suspicion on me was more town-pushed or scum-pushed. So I wanted to know

Fuzzy's

alignment to help solve other slots. Hence why I'm second-thinking

Churros

as stated in 1806. Do you think he's more likely town or scum off my assessment?

So, I'm channeling my huge sense of discontent into production by coming after most of the slots in the game so I can filter the bullshit by making people spew.

[Taly]

The extra kill has to be from a form of vigilante. (1-shot, full, JOAT, etc.)

In fact

VOTE: Blake

I didn't forget you taly I just think this is more interesting to pursue right now.

'iInteresting' is a good word choice here.
VOTE: Blake

She was pretty much the only person who thought fuzzy's lynch would probably hit scum (maybe barring pops who fuzzy was tunnelling.) And I find it scummy how the flip against her reads almost makes her more confident in her reads.
I agree with Churros that her answers about Rhul don't quite hold up either.

I thought your read on Blake was Town. In fact, yesterday you said something about it not making any sense at all her being scum. Now she's hard scum? How does your read flip like that? It's essentially the obverse of what you just accused her of doing.

I think this is the post you referred to:

Umm. no
I will play in my own way, I know I need to improve but that will com in time'. How is an observation useless. I am 100 percent sure there is scum on my wagon. I am pointing sometng else for the town

btw you never answer my question.

Blake/wiisp-S_S/popsofctown/Churros

must have

at least one

town in it, who are they?

What's your take on

NDMath

?

I want to believe Blake is town. I can't make sense of a them=scum world right now, though I am struggling to understand some of their recent pushes.
I still think wiisp-S_S is town but I'm less confident on the read with how little S_S has done.

So, I second

Alo's

questioning.

It is a combination of the following.

1. There are two points that Churros did not bring forward already. The idea that I was the one person thinking that TheFuzzyLogic99 would flip scum is patently false, as there were markedly few players voicing a townread onthat slot, and several had stated that TheFuzzyLogic99 was within their PoE pools. The second point is that the flips making me more confident in my reads is scummy, which is easily disputed if you read this post a second time. I specifically pointed out, via the "still," that my reads were similar to what they were despite the flips, and I pointed out the predominant reason why this was the case. It is a very lazy point to work with
2. The tertiary reasoning increases the odds that it is a sheep vote from Churros, especially since there was that effort put in towards adding two extra reasons that don't quite add up for the scumread.

3. There is a sensible motive for the vote, since there is a case that can be made against me beginning the day by saying I would likely be pushing him today regardless.

There's also the fact that in the case that NDMath is part of the mafia faction, they would likely expect this same approach to the day phase. Attempting to swing the pendulum away from him before it begins properly is not a bad strategy in this case.

To 1)

So, out of 7 votes on

Fuzzy

,

Luca/Pops/You (to you)

are town, as well as I am? With

Churros/eyestott/NDMath

potential scum votes on the lynch wagon?

To 2)

I don't know if I follow this, can you rephrase?

To Bolded Part of 3)

So, you're aware of the argument that could made that scum-

Blake

would've gone and voted

NDMath

in the first place of D2 due to a mislynch occurring, and scum-

NDMath

expects this, so he capitalizes on this by voting you? Am I picturing this correctly?

Good morning.

I think there's very low odds I don't support an NDMath lynch today, but I will still do my due diligence and look into the game further regardless.

I made 2 wallposts towncasing

NDMath

EoD1 and you haven't batted an eyelash to it.

I also towncased

Fuzzy

, and I wanted you to critique it because you said it had very poor logic, you never did.

Nothing about your stance here is genuine.

Nothing about these two points indicate a lack of genuineness.

Sure, but I don't know why you find my posting to be not that insightful... It sounds dismissive when you townread me based off tone/emotion as well as say my towncase didn't have good logic, and that I was overthinking a read (not remembering exactly what you said this on, though.)

I figured you'd be working more towards solving with me here.

If I had to sum up my thoughts as of right now, I don't believe I am significantly wrong in my reads, still.

There are some things I wish to go over still, but the scum in this game are likely to be those predominantly in the background of the game. This indicates Something_Smart, Aloratom, NDMath, and eyestott. I suspect two scum are in this list, minimum, at this point in time.

Of the rest, I believe Churros is the most likely to be scum.

OK, walk me through

Churros

in full.

I will be blunt with you, Taly. It's simply a case that I'm not townreading him like I am other players outside of that list. I think I know pretty definitively who he is at this point by how he's been playing around me this day phase, and I still find it very strange that he would push you the way he did. I don't get stuck in the details because I simply don't read people by what they're doing, I read into their mindsets and how their thoughts are progressing.

That's what I'm trying to do, too, I just focus on details more.

In a

NDMath

scum world, who is town?

{Eyestott/S_S/Aloratom}

WITH

Churros/NDMath

makes a pretty big lynch/scumpool that literally consists of half the current living playerlist.

And

Alo

is a townread you'd defend last dayphase. It don't see much stock placed into townhunting on your end, here.

Fire, I'm one of the few people not giving you a pass as town based off your predecessor, what does that say about my alignment or mindset?

Just tells me ur attention seeking

[Churros]

I strongly doubt a lot of players who are aware that Yshtola Rhul is an account by me would tolerate the way I play on that account. I hope you are aware that there are times I get a lot of pressure from other players for not having confident scumreads on day one, or for not playing to some arbitrary standard that some people hold me to without necessarily having even played with me before.

It is much easier to tolerate such a playstyle from an account that is unknown, with no expectations of them playing any particular way. As long as there is something there to work with, it is more commonly accepted among most players.

In post 1799, Churros wrote:
Let's say you wished to play support again, would you do another alt instead of just playing as yshlota?



Yes.

In post 1799, Churros wrote:
Considering you play with outed alts I find that kinda hard to believe unless you talk about it somewhere?



This is an irrelevant point. Blake Belladonna's playstyle differs in playstyle by adjusting how I present myself and my thoughts to other players in a way that is commonly more blunt and to the point. Yshtola Rhul purposely is vague and roundabout because one of my goals with that account was to push as little as possible on wagons outside of my vote. To this end, I have to be careful how I phrase my thoughts and suspicions, because my overall goal is to steer other players towards reaching my same conclusions and leading the charge for me.

It's notably much harder to do this in games where more detailed thoughts are expected to be outputed throughout the game, so it was necessary to switch towards a grandstanding and more aggressively roleplayed approach in order to say what I needed to say without shifting the power structure of the town too heavily in the process.

It was actually working, to some extent.

This is a good post. Kinda.

If Taly is town, I wouldn't be surprised by most or all scum being in the background either.

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

The slots I spent most of the game pushing there weren't approached with a open-minded way after I had my scum read on them settled. Maybe before I got to scum reading them, but never after. I was quite obnoxious even. Everyone ended up thinking so.

The way I treated your slot was clearly not the norm, and it came from the fact I thought you had plenty of potential to do better than you were doing in that game at that moment, and from the fact that if town I knew you would be helpful later in game. I don't see Taly as a bad player or anything, but I wouldn't put as much stock in considering Taly a major effect for a town win in late game.

I already came in this game with what I thought was a good solve. All it was left for me to do was to push them. I wasn't SR'ing their lack of contribution to need them to post more, I was SR'ing their contribution itself and there's little to nothing that can change, even now, me considering that Taly/Fuzzy push on Paragon/Pops had a opportunistic vibe.

You've witnessed first hand the way I approach my scum reads. I don't feel like I've done much different in this game.

Why you're thinking that I would approach everyone like a exception behavior I showed in last game rather than like most of the behavior I showed last game?

That doesn't make sense to me either. It seems like an excuse to hedge on me scum, a slot that frankly has good equity of being mislynched at some point, especially with both Pops/Luca gone.

[Blake Belladonna]

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

This makes me think I might have your identity incorrect.

I'll need to think on this.

[Churros]

Taly I feel super uncomfortable with you repeatedly saying that you wanted to work with pops there.

That's not how I remember D1, even if by EoD you flaked on your scum read on her, I never sensed you had completely changed your mind and was hard town reading her.

What's up with that?

[Churros]

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

This makes me think I might have your identity incorrect.

I'll need to think on this.

You were already quite confident that you knew my identity and I went out of my way to make it obvious to you because I thought it would help you read me easier and we maybe could work together.

In your past posts I always get the impression you already know who I'm. What would signalizing even harder make you "think" about?

You were already basing lots of your reasoning about me in knowing my identity. Why 100% confirming it to you makes you need to think about it?

[Churros]

Oh wait, I got it wrong. You meant incorrect.

[Blake Belladonna]

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

This makes me think I might have your identity incorrect.

I'll need to think on this.

You were already quite confident that you knew my identity and I went out of my way to make it obvious to you because I thought it would help you read me easier and we maybe could work together.

In your past posts I always get the impression you already know who I'm. What would signalizing even harder make you "think" about?

You were already basing lots of your reasoning about me in knowing my identity. Why 100% confirming it to you makes you need to think about it?

It's because the way you talk reminds me heavily of one specific person. However, the way you describe your history with me doesn't match. I don't suspect that you're lying or attempting to mislead in this way, so I no longer believe that my guess as to your identity is correct.

[Taly]

This is a good post. Kinda.

If Taly is town, I wouldn't be surprised by most or all scum being in the background either.

With

Blake

second-guessing the read on you, and you actually elaborating on your playstyle below, I'm starting to think both of you are being truthful with your approaches here.

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

The slots I spent most of the game pushing there weren't approached with a open-minded way after I had my scum read on them settled. Maybe before I got to scum reading them, but never after. I was quite obnoxious even. Everyone ended up thinking so.

So... you thought pushing your lynchpool would've actually ended in the lynch on everybody in the pool, and this isn't a new strategy for you?

Can you link this game of yours?

The way I treated your slot was clearly not the norm, and it came from the fact I thought you had plenty of potential to do better than you were doing in that game at that moment, and from the fact that if town I knew you would be helpful later in game. I don't see Taly as a bad player or anything, but I wouldn't put as much stock in considering Taly a major effect for a town win in late game.

Ouch. :/

Why did/do you think I'm such a roadblock for town here?

I already came in this game with what I thought was a good solve. All it was left for me to do was to push them. I wasn't SR'ing their lack of contribution to need them to post more, I was SR'ing their contribution itself and there's little to nothing that can change, even now, me considering that Taly/Fuzzy push on Paragon/Pops had a opportunistic vibe.

My reasons for scumreading

Pops/Paragon

were disconnected to

Fuzzy

, actually, I initially suspected

Fuzzy

when I suspected

Paragon

, and I had a consistently long scumread on

Pops

throughout D1 that I kept waffling on and didn't change until near EoD1.

It's frustrating that you've continually lumped my contribution into a very narrow box. :/

Especially since you never engaged with my thought process, so it's personally hard for me to verify how you're genuine.

You've witnessed first hand the way I approach my scum reads. I don't feel like I've done much different in this game.

Why you're thinking that I would approach everyone like a exception behavior I showed in last game rather than like most of the behavior I showed last game?

That doesn't make sense to me either. It seems like an excuse to hedge on me scum, a slot that frankly has good equity of being mislynched at some point, especially with both Pops/Luca gone.

OK, this feels like a meta recount that more likely comes from town.

Taly I feel super uncomfortable with you repeatedly saying that you wanted to work with pops there.

That's not how I remember D1, even if by EoD you flaked on your scum read on her, I never sensed you had completely changed your mind and was hard town reading her.

What's up with that?

Yeah, I'm not bringing feels up about

Pops/Luca

NKs anymore, I was just saying part of what contributed to my mood/approach.

And I wasn't hard-townreading

Pops

and

Luca

much, even EoD1. I did start to townread

Pops

though 1680, and I never really felt

Luca

was scum, and I enjoyed both of their posting EoD1 leading up to the hammer.

It was just me thinking over Night phase, that I wanted to bloc with them.

And yeah, the discomfort is understandable given that you can't do much to dispel this statement and it's a bit odd coming after players who died, but that's my emotional progression + POV as honest as I can be.

-

Idk, I see

Blake/Churros

T-T more likely with this recent exchange.

[Blake Belladonna]

Never mind, I know who Churros is.

That slot equates to town.

[Blake Belladonna]

I am currently thinking that the scumteam is NDMath, Something_Smart, and eyestott.

I need to otherwise look through some things that I was looking to do earlier, but these three names stand out the most to me right now.

[Churros]

So... you thought pushing your lynchpool would've actually ended in the lynch on everybody in the pool, and this isn't a new strategy for you?

Can you link this game of yours?

I can't, I don't want to out this alt yet. I only hinted to Blake so much about my identity because at a first moment I had good feelings on the slot early and thought I could work with her by making myself an easier read. Second reason her read on me was kinda bizarre considering our experience together. I couldn't afford to not talk about it.

Ouch. :/

Why did/do you think I'm such a roadblock for town here?

You aren't hypothetically speaking a roadblock for town, I even think you can have better reads or overall perfomance than Blake in some games. I find Blake, or rather Ank, greatest strength to keep town working together/coherently more than necessarily her reads accuracy. It can be a game-changer for town in certain games, which I felt it was the case in our past experience.

I don't think bad of you regardless of your alignment here Taly. I don't even know how you got that impression from my post?

[Churros]

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

This makes me think I might have your identity incorrect.

I'll need to think on this.

You were already quite confident that you knew my identity and I went out of my way to make it obvious to you because I thought it would help you read me easier and we maybe could work together.

In your past posts I always get the impression you already know who I'm. What would signalizing even harder make you "think" about?

You were already basing lots of your reasoning about me in knowing my identity. Why 100% confirming it to you makes you need to think about it?

It's because the way you talk reminds me heavily of one specific person. However, the way you describe your history with me doesn't match. I don't suspect that you're lying or attempting to mislead in this way, so I no longer believe that my guess as to your identity is correct.

I'm quite shocked you apparently mismatched me to be fair if you aren't lying here.

[Blake Belladonna]

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

This makes me think I might have your identity incorrect.

I'll need to think on this.

You were already quite confident that you knew my identity and I went out of my way to make it obvious to you because I thought it would help you read me easier and we maybe could work together.

In your past posts I always get the impression you already know who I'm. What would signalizing even harder make you "think" about?

You were already basing lots of your reasoning about me in knowing my identity. Why 100% confirming it to you makes you need to think about it?

It's because the way you talk reminds me heavily of one specific person. However, the way you describe your history with me doesn't match. I don't suspect that you're lying or attempting to mislead in this way, so I no longer believe that my guess as to your identity is correct.

I'm quite shocked you apparently mismatched me to be fair if you aren't lying here.

I thought you were insomnia until recently.

[Churros]

But there's another thing bugging me about you. Why you think my approach on Taly was "weird" considering you know how I play as town and that mostly boils down to our last game together since you don't have much experience with me in regular games.The unique slot in that game I didn't shamelessly began to shade/tunnel was you, and to some extent another lurker which I was a bit doubtful in my scum read on him, but after I decided he should die, I wasn't interested in much dialogue.

This makes me think I might have your identity incorrect.

I'll need to think on this.

You were already quite confident that you knew my identity and I went out of my way to make it obvious to you because I thought it would help you read me easier and we maybe could work together.

In your past posts I always get the impression you already know who I'm. What would signalizing even harder make you "think" about?

You were already basing lots of your reasoning about me in knowing my identity. Why 100% confirming it to you makes you need to think about it?

It's because the way you talk reminds me heavily of one specific person. However, the way you describe your history with me doesn't match. I don't suspect that you're lying or attempting to mislead in this way, so I no longer believe that my guess as to your identity is correct.

I'm quite shocked you apparently mismatched me to be fair if you aren't lying here.

I thought you were insomnia until recently.

Oh, I can buy that actually...

At least I'm not as obvious as I thought I would be.

[Churros]

Finally that phase of the game. I'm starting to feel lethargic about my reads.

I wish someone had a hotter take other than Fire maybe being scum.

I don't have really changed my opinions/confidence/reads but neither they are the same as before.

Taly you're flaking on your previous scum reads so who is scum right now to you?

[Churros]

I could see Math scum sure.

But I've trouble with his partners if Taly isn't exactly one. If Taly isn't scum who would be Math partners anyway.

I hard TR Paragon, it's my main read

I think Eyesott has terrible posts but I still town read how he approached pops

I mostly town read Ame, even though Fire presence so far has been a bit underwhelming even for him.

I don't get any bad pings from Allo and his interactions with Math doesn't look SvS.

Blake is...probably not a Math partner.

If Taly isn't scum with Math this game just doesn't make sense from a mathematical POV for me for scum!Math with a 3-man team. I don't feel as good about a Taly/Math solve though as I did before. I think one of them might be likely scum at this gamestate but their interactions are kinda "huh" for buddies the more I think about it.

Math/Something_Smart would be a more reasonable solve but what's the probability of only 2 scum or 2 scum + traitor anyway?