Thanks, but I am VT so whatever argument you have against me is wrong. I don't think I can convince you though, but your "mechanics" argument is wrong.
Perhaps we are both town and scum is bob+ador
If u flip green, we will still win though
You earlier said it cant be ador/bob
What in these last posts has changed your mind.
And infact in that post you where talking to me as though i was town.
Thanks, but I am VT so whatever argument you have against me is wrong. I don't think I can convince you though, but your "mechanics" argument is wrong.
Perhaps we are both town and scum is bob+ador
If u flip green, we will still win though
You earlier said it cant be ador/bob
What in these last posts has changed your mind.
And infact in that post you where talking to me as though i was town.
If lucky flips green, then it is either you/ador or wake+one of you.
Idk what you mean by me talking to you as if you were town.
Thanks, but I am VT so whatever argument you have against me is wrong. I don't think I can convince you though, but your "mechanics" argument is wrong.
Perhaps we are both town and scum is bob+ador
If u flip green, we will still win though
You earlier said it cant be ador/bob
What in these last posts has changed your mind.
And infact in that post you where talking to me as though i was town.
If lucky flips green, then it is either you/ador or wake+one of you.
Idk what you mean by me talking to you as if you were town.
So why do you think i would be scum with a town lucky.
So far all of today you have not yet given a single reason why anyone would be scum. Its all be deflections from yourself and adora
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:36 am
by midwaybear
Idk because you are still scummy. Lucky being town doesn’t clear you at all. Yeah, I admit that I haven’t really tried to actively scumhunt. I’m just more focused with looking towny, so I don’t get voted. I said that adora is possibly scum too
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:36 am
by bob3141
And i thught you said it coulnt be wake. You keep flip flopping between it cant be wake to wake could be part of team.
Explain teh scum motivation for wake outing 3 pr. If they are all town. Why woudl scum wake simply not kill them in the night. Tell me why after a lucky town flip you would even scum read wake
and why are you preparing for the next day as if you already know lucky is town if you think lucky is scum?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:38 am
by midwaybear
Idk man. I haven’t really read much of the game. But if lucky flips town, we should still consider him no?
I prepare for all possibilities:P
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:39 am
by bob3141
In post 1831, midwaybear wrote:Idk because you are still scummy. Lucky being town doesn’t clear you at all. Yeah, I admit that I haven’t really tried to actively scumhunt. I’m just more focused with looking towny, so I don’t get voted. I said that adora is possibly scum too
But what is it that you think is scummy about my play. So far you have not been able to give a single example. You have not been able to justify your own scum reads.
On its own why do you think dave/luckly is scum?
And why do you think i am scum?
So far all you have come up with is that lucky is info lynch. Yet you know claim it gives no info. As from your later posts you are sayign scum could be in any combination of the players outside of clidd and tweet.
All you have done is say oh they could be scum team but not why.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:41 am
by bob3141
In post 1833, midwaybear wrote:Idk man. I haven’t really read much of the game. But if lucky flips town, we should still consider him no?
I prepare for all possibilities:P
So you are saying you are not prepared to get invested in this game. That you are not interested in finding who scum is. And that you just want any lynch that inst you
How is that not scum motivated as doesnt scum want atleast one player to live. As after all they need to endgame to win
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:42 am
by bob3141
In post 1833, midwaybear wrote:Idk man. I haven’t really read much of the game. But if lucky flips town, we should still consider him no?
I prepare for all possibilities:P
explain why you think wake could potentialy be scum and not lock town
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:43 am
by bob3141
and midbear if you think i could be scum with a lucky green or red flipp. Then why if you are town are you not pushing for my lynch
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:45 am
by midwaybear
Idk bro. The only thing I knew before I started to reread was that I’m a VT. After rereading, it seemed that tweet and cloud were clear and I liked wake. Thus, it leaves the three scum in {LL, bob, ador}. That is why you could be scum(by PoE)
Pedit: Look my goal is to not get mislynched. I’ll let the people who have played in the game make the final decision. Ok, wake is lock town sure. It doesn’t really matter because I still thought he wasn’t scummy. I just wanted to reconsider if
LL was town.
Because I think LL is worse
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:45 am
by bob3141
You say i could be partnered with 4 different players. Yet you want the goign lynch. How is that not opportunistic.
That you just want to lynch
Do you think there is any chance that bob vs adora is tvt. All you have said is that you are sure its not svs. But then today you are saying we could be partners.
Read adora and my iso. And tell us all what you think of each of us
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:47 am
by midwaybear
Idk how I am being opportunistic. The day is over soon and I think LL is the best lynch.
Fine gimme some time
In post 1831, midwaybear wrote:Yeah, I admit that I haven’t really tried to actively scumhunt. I’m just more focused with looking towny, so I don’t get voted. I said that adora is possibly scum too
I find it really hard to believe scum talks like this
I had a townlean on Lucky going into today, so it's tricky. But I think it's more likely that my read is wrong, I have a tendency to townread too much and I don't want to throw by being unwilling to adjust my reads. I have a tendency to get 1 or 2 wrong, and in this scenario, I do not think i have Wake/clidd wrong
I think the way Lucky has reacted to pressure lately hasnt been explicitly towny. Rather than focus on why midway is scum, he's more focused on why he's mechanically town. Which several players arent interested in, either
I was going to make a post last night abt Wake/clidd being town and Bob/Adorbs not being SvS but i didn't get to it. So if anyone has any qualms about either of those i can do the analysis on that if you want but we're running out of time
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 7:35 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 1814, LuckyLuciano wrote:MT, does the order at which you lynch me and midway matter for your PoE? If not, let's lynch Midway first since he said he's going to sheep your vote and hasn't read anything prior to D4, nor intends to. I'd like to see how he plays this out when the person he agreed to sheep leads a wagon against him.
If the scumteam is Lucky/Adorable rather than Lucky/Bob, lynching midway first would lose us the game I think
Spoiler: scenario
Lynch midway(town), Wake dies
Lucky, Morning, Adorable, Bob, clidd
Lynch Lucky(scum), Morning dies
Adorable, Bob, clidd
I think we likely lynch Bob in that LYLO. Is it possible that Lucky is scum with Adorable, though? I can still kind of see that possibility. I don't want to allow that possibility to win, but it can't be stopped if we lynch midway first
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 7:47 am
by Morning Tweet
Spoiler: Chem, Bob, and Dave-Lucky's votes
Chem D1 >> Aloratom wagon
Bob D1 >> Counter-wagon on dave (?)
Bob D2 >> Won't vote Gamma, willing to vote Creature
Bob D3 >> Suddenly wants Gamma now
Bob D4 >> Lucky is mech town, vote midway
Dave D1 >> Aloratom wagon
Dave D2 >> Creature wagon
Lucky D3 >> Gamma wagon
Lucky D4 >> Lucky is mech town, vote midway
I have convinced myself to vote Lucky. I think it's most likely Lucky/bob, with some variance in the partner, but likely bob.
Even if I'm incorrect, i think a mislynch on Lucky will give more info than a mislynch on midway would.
Bob D1 >> Counter-wagon on dave (?)
Bob D2 >> Won't vote Gamma, willing to vote Creature
Bob D3 >> Suddenly wants Gamma now
Bob D4 >> Lucky is mech town, vote midway
Dave D1 >> Aloratom wagon
Dave D2 >> Creature wagon
Lucky D3 >> Gamma wagon
Lucky D4 >> Lucky is mech town, vote midway
I have convinced myself to vote Lucky. I think it's most likely Lucky/bob, with some variance in the partner, but likely bob.
Even if I'm incorrect, i think a mislynch on Lucky will give more info than a mislynch on midway would.
I don't think I can see voting midway today
VOTE: Lucky
I hate to break it to you but that is awful vote analysis.
Let me ask you this if dave was scum why would he push alort and chemist as being scum. All the while voting for alort. If scum what he has done is increase the odds of teh chemist lynch at the same time as making himself look bad after the flip. Its more the actions of player who doesnt know for sure teh alignments and genuinely thinks both alort and chemist are scum. See how dave got little flustered with my questioning. Quite simply his actions day one and day two do not look like scum.
You woudl expect scum to do what proffi did. have their vote on chemist and push alort v chemist as svs.
on side note my gamma vote was during a time i had sort of lost interest in this game. Spending my free time doing something else. Was quite happy to vote in poe. My poe solve would be right and if the rest of the town decided to messing things up. Thats not much to do with me as I care about getting the right solve.
day two poe was aaron, gamma, proffi and adora.
holdem if you look back in my vca i had concluded holdem was town and town read hectic.
