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In post 1806, Menalque wrote:

In post 1799, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1771, Menalque wrote:VOTE: noraa

ugh menal please go back on shelly nora is annoying but it's a policy lim at that point

nah, I think it's actually super super scummy that noraa is so avoidant here

I think her reasons for avoiding it are weak ("it's just her play style") and I think her saying "likely one scum in shelly/icon, but I don't think icon is happening today" combined with not voting there is scummy -- like if you really believe that you solve another slot by flipping one, you flip the one you can get and then work off that information. I think noraa has

excellent

scum equity with shelly and even aside from that I don't think her reluctance to be involved here is from town (if she's not partners, I think she's just afraid of limping onto a town wagon late esp with BM calling her out for that so publicly)

and if she does flip scum, she gets me the cred I need to do shelly tomorrow

In post 1827, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1806, Menalque wrote:

In post 1799, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1771, Menalque wrote:VOTE: noraa

ugh menal please go back on shelly nora is annoying but it's a policy lim at that point

nah, I think it's actually super super scummy that noraa is so avoidant here

I think her reasons for avoiding it are weak ("it's just her play style") and I think her saying "likely one scum in shelly/icon, but I don't think icon is happening today" combined with not voting there is scummy -- like if you really believe that you solve another slot by flipping one, you flip the one you can get and then work off that information. I think noraa has

excellent

scum equity with shelly and even aside from that I don't think her reluctance to be involved here is from town (if she's not partners, I think she's just afraid of limping onto a town wagon late esp with BM calling her out for that so publicly)

and if she does flip scum, she gets me the cred I need to do shelly tomorrow

you've sold me on this case. although i got newbtown vibes from noraa she isn't in fact a newbie and her post quality is deteriorating hard as she's getting pushed

pedit: @bm actually, to an extent, you're right; i was annoyed and let subjective feelings towards you get in the way of evaluating the case, and your case upon rereading was actually good, albeit a bit difficult to digest. i will say that i agreed most strongly with the first part of iamausername's case, which has parts that you don't have explicitly in your own, so that's why i said i appreciated the case so much. that being said, the order of magnitudes comment was rude and uncalled for and i apologize.

In post 1829, Menalque wrote:yes, basically L-2 but again that's only if I can't get the votes back to do shelly

In post 1835, Menalque wrote:I'm saying I will hammer anyone at L-1, not instahammer them

In post 1563, bob3141 wrote:

In post 896, Alonzo wrote:Also interested who Taylor , Shelly and TGP think scum on their wagon might be.

But what do you think of the alignment of those 3 players though? And why?

I had noob town pings from Taylor? If they are fooling me its with an ability to dumbtell.
I felt like Shelley had been active and didn't understand the wagon.
TGP is an interesting one for me, I found your styles and the roles you were filling to be similar. Hard to elaborate more suffice to say I need to keep a closer eye on you both.


As you seem to be asking them a very leading question.

Is it? If one says ' IV barely kept up, I don't know who is voting me for what reasons' the next says - I townread the players pushing me, and the last says ' I played a game last month with player X and it's a fucking outrage they don't tr me here' IV suddenly got alot more to ponder.


I assume you read Taylor as scum as in your reads you have TS 1230 displayed at the bottom of a tier read list. Yet in the same post you have said you're deferring your read of taylor and shelly alignment to the crowd.

I made that reads list when my eyeballs were still steaming from bunnos introduction.


Although nowhere other than that can i see any clear read in your iso on taylor. A few comments here but nothing related to a read and a reason.


And in your read list i can't see shelly or tgp. With the only thing on tgp being in posts 1100. When searching tgp in your iso. All I see is you saying you don't disagree much about goldens read list. And a poor attempt at humor that feels like shade towards me. Because you didn't get an immediate post from someone asleep.

In post 1827, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1806, Menalque wrote:

In post 1799, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1771, Menalque wrote:VOTE: noraa

ugh menal please go back on shelly nora is annoying but it's a policy lim at that point

nah, I think it's actually super super scummy that noraa is so avoidant here

I think her reasons for avoiding it are weak ("it's just her play style") and I think her saying "likely one scum in shelly/icon, but I don't think icon is happening today" combined with not voting there is scummy -- like if you really believe that you solve another slot by flipping one, you flip the one you can get and then work off that information. I think noraa has

excellent

scum equity with shelly and even aside from that I don't think her reluctance to be involved here is from town (if she's not partners, I think she's just afraid of limping onto a town wagon late esp with BM calling her out for that so publicly)

and if she does flip scum, she gets me the cred I need to do shelly tomorrow

you've sold me on this case. although i got newbtown vibes from noraa she isn't in fact a newbie and her post quality is deteriorating hard as she's getting pushed

pedit: @bm actually, to an extent, you're right; i was annoyed and let subjective feelings towards you get in the way of evaluating the case, and your case upon rereading was actually good, albeit a bit difficult to digest. i will say that i agreed most strongly with the first part of iamausername's case, which has parts that you don't have explicitly in your own, so that's why i said i appreciated the case so much. that being said, the order of magnitudes comment was rude and uncalled for and i apologize.

In post 1839, Alonzo wrote:TGP can you highlight some of the posts that helped you reverse your read on BM please

In post 1841, Noraa wrote:My read'll come some time tonight or tomorrow. We'll see.

In post 1842, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1839, Alonzo wrote:TGP can you highlight some of the posts that helped you reverse your read on BM please

there are so many that I don't think I can specifically point out a few. the fight between bm and menal really got me to a point where i stopped seeing scum!bm as a likely thing because of how hard he was fighting and then his compromise with menal at the end. i don't necessarily think i directly reversed my read on bm, but i pretty strongly believe that either the bm/menal fight was strong tvt where they were having open and loud discourse, or staged svs, and i think that the former is much more likely than the latter, especially because I TR menal very hard. i really don't see that interaction as being TvS; i feel like the scum in that pair would be strongly incentivized to simply drop it and them compromising on noraa felt very unlikely to be TvS to me.