Death Curse

[Bell]

I’m currently trying to wagon Shelly because she’s scum this game,
Would you like to join my wagon?

[Hopkirk]

I think I see your issue.
Imagine town Taylor looking at the scenario. Let's say she 95% scumreads you and 95% TRs Lady.

If she gets the lethal
Taylor-Pooky-Lady (as scum you does NOT shoot Noraa)

If you get the lethal
Pooky-Taylor-Noraa

Why does she even take option 1?

Would you be happy with Pooky lethal, scroll to Taylor who insta passed to Lady? From town Taylor's perspective it's literally this and that's not a good trade.
Really want you to comment a yes/no on the above point.

is this a troll i already promised to shoot noraa and theres no way taylor thought of that because she didnt respond to the offer that way. now you're just putting words in her mouth.

Pooky, if you're scum then YOU WOULD LIE ABOUT WHO YOU WOULD SHOOT. Why would Taylor accept the offer if SHE THINKS YOU'RE SCUM since scum you WOULDN'T shoot Noraa. Are you trying to say that scum you would still shoot Noraa? I outright don't believe you would.

Would you accept
Taylor-Pooky-Noraa.

Yes or no?

[Hopkirk]

I guess so but I don't see why my logic is bad? Like there is a good chance of T>S>T here.

Your logic gets stronger the bigger the chance of Noraa town.

So we're shooting X-Y-Noraa.

I guess so but I don't see why my logic is bad? Like there is a good chance of T>S>T here.

Who do you want to lethal first right now?

Noraa, because of the 30/40% chance she's town

I thought you were in the Noraa 3rd camp, ok then nevermind I guess.

If I wanted that wagon I would be trying to make that wagon, no?

Why don't you want that wagon?

I’m currently trying to wagon Shelly because she’s scum this game,
Would you like to join my wagon?

Can you see the difference between 'want to wagon one of your top scumreads' (me to you) and 'want to wagon someone in your townpool?' (you to me here)

[Bell]

Your loss.

[MURDERCAT]

I thought you were in the Noraa 3rd camp, ok then nevermind I guess.

I was at first, but thought more deeply about it and have been noraa first since then

[Bell]

Go find the other scum then there are 4 left to find.

Also, I’m not sure on LLD’s schedule.

[MURDERCAT]

If it looks like it's not going that way and there's a wagon I support I'll obviously fall in line, but I still want Noraa first for now.

[shellyc]

Maybe after the game and if you flip red I’ll share.

I'll never get the shellyc tells, how deeply saddening

bell i would like you to tell me if you're town

[Hopkirk]

I can get why you don't want to go full reads MURDER, but can you give me a couple of likely scum if you've got any? Like thoughts on Unowen/Bell/Toogeloo or something. Slots scum doesn't shoot.

[Bell]

Bell are you town here

i've got my dayvig gun ready

I’m always town you scum claimer

[Hopkirk]

Go find the other scum then there are 4 left to find.

Also, I’m not sure on LLD’s schedule.

Can you do something?

[UNOwen]

Shellllyyyyyy.

[Bell]

Not your monkey.

[Hopkirk]

Tell me how obvtown I am Bell.

[Hopkirk]

Why do I feel like 75% of the vig shots are going to be emotional decisions.

[Bell]

Tell me how obvtown I am Bell.

Extremely obvious town.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, if you're scum then YOU WOULD LIE ABOUT WHO YOU WOULD SHOOT. Why would Taylor accept the offer if SHE THINKS YOU'RE SCUM since scum you WOULDN'T shoot Noraa. Are you trying to say that scum you would still shoot Noraa? I outright don't believe you would.

Would you accept
Taylor-Pooky-Noraa.

Yes or no?

no I'm saying Taylor literally didnt think of that because if she did she would've said that.

[MURDERCAT]

Like thoughts on Unowen/Bell/Toogeloo or something. Slots scum doesn't shoot.

Of those three, I doubt the panda most

[Titus]

That wasn't in relation to anything specific. I just noticed you'd mentioned something that sounded like you weren't aware of it, and wanted to make sure you were. Obviously there's a big difference in flipping someone and knowing what they are then updating reads based on that vs 3 simultaneous flips where there's two chances for reads to update.

Got a read on Fidget?

Not yet. I hope to by Eo real life day.

[Bell]

Why do I feel like 75% of the vig shots are going to be emotional decisions.

It’s all about finding the perfect moment to be calm and making the right decision. That moment is when you have the scroll.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which btw is another point in the direction of TAYLOR IS RED THIS GAME because that's literally what Taylor-Town would've said if she actually thought I was scum

[Hopkirk]

Pooky, if you're scum then YOU WOULD LIE ABOUT WHO YOU WOULD SHOOT. Why would Taylor accept the offer if SHE THINKS YOU'RE SCUM since scum you WOULDN'T shoot Noraa. Are you trying to say that scum you would still shoot Noraa? I outright don't believe you would.

Would you accept
Taylor-Pooky-Noraa.

Yes or no?

no I'm saying Taylor literally didnt think of that because if she did she would've said that.

She kind of says it later on in your argument, but not early on. I can pull that up if it would affect your thoughts on the matter, but won't bother if it wouldn't.

I really don't get why you're ready Taylor as someone who'd be happy with it on principle. They feel like a pretty lone wolf player who cares most about their own role in the game a lot more than 'I'd be happy to die if it marginally improves things'.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think most people have noraa as maybe town now. she needs to be flipped, but not so much that we give you second shot. if i go first im shooting a lurker slot or a scum slot other than you.

she acknowledges here I would use the shot on Noraa

[Bell]

I’m okay with pooky doing this if he calms down and does an amazing analysis that pegs Taylor for not because it’s Taylor reasons to impress the audience. But I only wanna do that in the reality where Taylor actually is scum, which, I genuinely wish it was and that I could tell the difference, but so far I can’t.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which btw is not a thought she should have if she thinks I'm scum