DBZ: Cell Games [Over]

[superbowl9]

Also, I want to die.

I like alive bell more than dead bell

[Bell]

Yeah, Dunn's town.

Hey, Flea?

VOTE: Battle Mage

It was a good step in/counter Jab to any counter-counter Jab mastina could make.
he's right that the TR was too easy.
Though, also, Mastina comes up with stuff for everybody and that's tough to do with a sterling innovative take for everyone.

Mostly, I sort of kind of maybe sort of kind of have to say that Mastina says she's had a hard time emulating her town game lately as scum (or maybe I'm misrepresenting that position).
Maybe this game is an example of that self trend.

[Battle Mage]

especially from somebody so precious about pronouns and the like.

This is absolutely not acceptable.

You do not get to come here and disrespect us for asking for basic human decency and use that against my lockscum read on you.

+1 I didn't read the context here but a comment like this again Battle Mage and I will do whatever is in my power to see you removed. Once can be forgiven as a grevious error.

to be very clear:

I apologise for any offense caused - it was certainly not my intention.

As I say, I've tried my best this game to be level-headed and really just prefer it when everyone is nice and respectful to each other. I mostly play in the newbie queue these days because there's never any personal arguing like we've had here (and I seem to find in most games tbh).

I wish mafia could just be fun, and like - people can play well, or play badly, but there should always be that personal respect. On pronouns, I have always taken considerable care to get them correct for Flea as I understand it's something they care about. My point was simply that I wish that same courtesy had been extended towards me - instead, I think Flea has given me a hard time and gone beyond what I consider to be "playing the game". Decency is much broader than pronouns - it can be as simple as when somebody asks you to cool it a bit, you do it, rather than continuing to antagonise and browbeat them.

I don't want to discuss this, or anything really, anymore. I shouldn't really have to justify my feeling on something going too far for me - it would be better if everyone just kinda respected it, when we step out of the mafia bubble. I had hoped that going away for 2 days would have settled things down, but that doesn't appear to have happened. I also don't want to waste loads of thread-space going on about my feelings either, because that's not helpful.

[Battle Mage]

the apology extends to anyone offended, incidentally! as I say, my point was meant to be that I have tried to be very careful with pronouns which I know is an important thing for Flea, and was hoping that they could similarly calm down their approach on me to a level where I can really engage with the game (as I had asked). It has been stifling.

[Battle Mage]

especially from somebody so precious about pronouns and the like.

This is absolutely not acceptable.

You do not get to come here and disrespect us for asking for basic human decency and use that against my lockscum read on you.

Flea, in addition to the above, I will emphasise - I did not mean to either offend you, or use my views on your personal approach towards me as a means to secure an advantage in the game. Clearly that would be wrong. I have no issue with you scumreading me - that's part of the game. But I'm not at ease with the way you've approached my slot this game. Perhaps it's only me who feels that way, although others have raised it previously as being unhelpful to the game as a whole, but maybe I'm in a minority of one. Ultimately though, when it comes to our personal views and feelings, they are just that - personal. I have not suggested this is about blaming you, or blaming me - but I did agree to stop the confrontation and not respond, and would have preferred if you reciprocated. It doesn't mean you have to change your vote, or your position, but just that you let other things transpire in the game.

[Battle Mage]

somewhat ironic that my approach this game was premised on being much more detached emotionally, and we find ourselves here. I haven't got the appetite to fight Gamma anyway, so I'll eat the lim and the game can move on. I'm just a VT.

[Flea The Magician]

My read on you is lockscum, as such I wish for you to be in the arena.
I would love to be the one to 1vs1 in the arena, I accepted that is not going to happen.
I am not going to drop my read on you, I am not going to stop pushing you as a result, and will continue to push for you to be placed in the arena as per my win condition of eliminating the scum aligned players.

You have made a personal attack based on something which gets enough abuse and trauma as it is. You are not forgiven, intention means very little when you use something like that as a weapon.

And before you go for it, I acknowledged that my intention wasn't enough when my comment went too far.

I have requested moderator intervention. I will no longer post in this thread until rectified.

[Perfect Cell]

Votecount to follow. Locking thread for time being. Be nice people.

In addition, I'll be granting an extension to the deadline

. I understand things can get heated, but there is no need for personal outings. Try your best to remember that there is a person on the other side of the screen.

[Battle Mage]

My read on you is lockscum, as such I wish for you to be in the arena.
I would love to be the one to 1vs1 in the arena, I accepted that is not going to happen.
I am not going to drop my read on you, I am not going to stop pushing you as a result, and will continue to push for you to be placed in the arena as per my win condition of eliminating the scum aligned players.

You have made a personal attack based on something which gets enough abuse and trauma as it is. You are not forgiven, intention means very little when you use something like that as a weapon.

And before you go for it, I acknowledged that my intention wasn't enough when my comment went too far.

I have requested moderator intervention. I will no longer post in this thread until rectified.

So be it - I don't think me being booted is any great loss to the game. I think aside from an unwelcome comment I have treated you respectfully this game, and I don't think you have done so towards me. Nonetheless, I don't like to call the Moderator to adjudicate on conduct matters unless absolutely necessary, and as is clear from my comments, I have continued to try and encourage a more sociable tone between us.

In determining my continued participation, much will clearly, and perhaps justifiably, be made of my remark which was ill-judged and for which I have apologised. I've shared my remaining thoughts, and it's clear from your response that you won't agree to my request for a more respectful and less confrontational interaction, or for no interaction at all, which is a shame. Clearly there's a further lesson for me here in terms of detaching myself emotionally from these mafia games, to avoid feeling as I have this game, and reacting inappropriately as I have done in one instance. I remain a firm believer that these games should be fun, and perhaps I should have replaced out earlier anyway, but I was keen not to create more work for the Mod, or disrespect other players.

In the event I am subject to Mod action, best wishes to all.

[Battle Mage]

to bring things back to the actual game - somebody commented earlier that I might bus Oil Tycoons if I was scum with them. Answer: Unlikely, as I have played with Syryana before and he excelled at looking town (to my peril ).

[Perfect Cell]

with 13 alive it takes 7 to nominate. Nomination Phase 2 ends in (expired on 2021-01-11 22:25:25).

Combatants

Dunnstral (1): Titus
mastina (5): Bell, Dunnstral, Oil Tycoons, superbowl9, Battle Mage
Battle Mage (3): Sugar Cain, Flea The Magician, Kookiemonster
Oil Tycoons (0):
Bell (0):
Superbowl9 (1): mastina
Firebringer (1): Guillotina
kookiemonster (0):
Titus (0):
Flea The Magician (0):
Sugar Cain (0):
Guillotina (1): Firebringer

Not Voting (0):


Superbowl is V/LA from January 5th to January 10th.

Spoiler: Nominated

1. Gamma Emerald

[Battle Mage]

pending extension, VOTE: Mastina largely for self-preservation.

[Sugar Cain]

BM, other than a somewhat insensitive post why are you being pushed?

[Firebringer]

I have requested moderator intervention. I will no longer post in this thread until rectified.

I am gonna be real with you here. I do not think you should be playing mafia if this is your mindset.
If you are so insulted that you cannot play, then you should probably leave. I am not telling you to do so, but just saying.

demanding moderator intervention is probably not the way to go.

[Sugar Cain]

I want Mastina in the arena!

That rhymed. so cool.

Also, I would be extremely happy with a Conf town Mastina *hints at titus*
*nudges titus's elbow*

if Mastina gets put in the arena today and is eliminated we couldn't even get a conf town Mastina if she's town. So why would you be voting her if you want her investigated?

[Bell]

I assumed that Titus's ability was some kind of IC-wand waving, rather than a cop thing because of how she approached it.

[Firebringer]

right now the only person i understand where they are coming from regaarding voting mastina is superbowl. what is everyone else doing

[Sugar Cain]

ummmm what?

[Firebringer]

why are people voting mastina

[Firebringer]

i think year end is disabling my ability to communicate properly

[Sugar Cain]

I mean I realize that my hyrda partner but a vote on BM and I don't think it really matters if he goes b/c I doubt I vote him over Gamma but still...

[Bell]

Ya know, maybe I shouldn't speculate on role abilities when I'm ass at it.

Regardless, I am scum reading Mastina.
But I also hold her town game in some esteem and would vastly prefer she live and help me solve than die as town.
So If I reach a world where I'm wrong On mastina and she is confirmed as town, great.
If not, and she flips town and Titus ability wasn't what I thought, sucks for me. Add it to my list of bad pushes into eliminations on town.

[Titus]

I assumed that Titus's ability was some kind of IC-wand waving, rather than a cop thing because of how she approached it.

Both are correct. I have to use it by day 2's end or I become a treestump.

[Titus]

I really don't like the choices for the second nom. I may just target mastina and make my exit. Not sure.

[Bell]

That...That's the first time I was ever right on anything regarding roles.

I need a minute.