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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:39 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 1821, Gamma Emerald wrote:the one thing for me, I don't think this can actually be answered without revealing main, but it's whether it's before or after december 2019
anything before then is kinda lost in the fog for me, I probably only remember broad strokes
If it’s the game I’m thinking of before because I have only been scum in 2 games with Math 3, if you include a 3p and only one WF where I was scum and him town.
AtE is never ai for me and anyone doing an honest good faith metadive on me will tell you that. If anything pisses me off in games more than absolutely anything is people butchering my meta and I absolutely will not stand for that!
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:40 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 1824, MathBlade wrote:This is your scum meta
I hate playing with one hand tied behind my back with you.
If you don’t stop fucking lying about me, I swear I will lose it on you. Stop misrepping my meta. I will not tell you again.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:41 am
by Save The Dragons
maybe everyone can take one step backwards
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:47 am
by Harley Quinn
I just get extremely salty whenever I get bs shitpushed on a garbage meta read. If he was pushing me on anything actually related to this game, I wouldn’t get pissed.
But he is throwing out bs shade which I can’t respond to without outing my main, so I guess he wasn’t sincere ablit not alt outing me then because if he actually were to link/quote absolutely anything I could rip it to smithereens but he can continue to garbage shade me and I literally can’t defend myself unless I out my main, which is an extremely shitty position to be in.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:50 am
by MathBlade
And I can’t prove my statement and it’s not bs without outing your main
It’s the same spot.
It is a shitty position
You can miselim me and I am more than likely right
Or you can push a miselim elsewhere
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:53 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 1829, MathBlade wrote:And I can’t prove my statement and it’s not bs without outing your main
It’s the same spot.
It is a shitty position
You can miselim me and I am more than likely right
Or you can push a miselim elsewhere
I would really hate hate hate that you’d actually go this far to win a scumgame,
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:54 am
by Save The Dragons
i get that it's shitty for both of you
math is really respectful to alts and i don't think he's trying to hold that over your head, HQ
HQ feels strongly and i think she has a good MB case without this being a part of it
i dunno. i just don't want conflict
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:54 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 1686, MathBlade wrote: In post 1685, Harley Quinn wrote: In post 1680, MathBlade wrote:It’s okay she’s proving hers.
If I had less scruples I’d out her main then demonstrates she does this as scum.
So it’s like whatever I have to work anyway
Math as someone I have incredible respect for as a human being and a friend, I am deeply disappointed that you would ever resort to make alt outing threats just to win a game. I would never ever do that to you. :/
It’s why I said if I had less scruples
It’s a promise I never would.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:54 am
by MathBlade
I am not.
I set a concrete line
I explained why I think you’re scum
If anything I am being very professional
I am not scum and on my flip people will believe that I believed you’re scum
You can still argue that I am wrong
There is nothing wrong with me saying I think you’re following your scum meta
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:55 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1825, Harley Quinn wrote: In post 1821, Gamma Emerald wrote:the one thing for me, I don't think this can actually be answered without revealing main, but it's whether it's before or after december 2019
anything before then is kinda lost in the fog for me, I probably only remember broad strokes
If it’s the game I’m thinking of before because I have only been scum in 2 games with Math 3, if you include a 3p and only one WF where I was scum and him town.
AtE is never ai for me and anyone doing an honest good faith metadive on me will tell you that. If anything pisses me off in games more than absolutely anything is people butchering my meta and I absolutely will not stand for that!
it took ages but I think I found the game, and it's OLD
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:55 am
by MathBlade
In post 1831, Save The Dragons wrote:i get that it's shitty for both of you
math is really respectful to alts and i don't think he's trying to hold that over your head, HQ
HQ feels strongly and i think she has a good MB case without this being a part of it
i dunno. i just don't want conflict
Why do you not want conflict?
That’s the entire point of mafia is to get into conflict and sort people
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:56 am
by Save The Dragons
i don't want it to be shitty conflict
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:57 am
by Save The Dragons
y'all can argue if you want i just was worried it was starting to get a little heated
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:57 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 1831, Save The Dragons wrote:i get that it's shitty for both of you
math is really respectful to alts and i don't think he's trying to hold that over your head, HQ
HQ feels strongly and i think she has a good MB case without this being a part of it
i dunno. i just don't want conflict
It’s very hard for me not to get extremely emotional when I know someone is grossly butchering my meta and he 100% is. That is a guaranteed fact.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:57 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1828, Harley Quinn wrote:
I just get extremely salty whenever I get bs shitpushed on a garbage meta read. If he was pushing me on anything actually related to this game, I wouldn’t get pissed.
But he is throwing out bs shade which I can’t respond to without outing my main, so I guess he wasn’t sincere ablit not alt outing me then because if he actually were to link/quote absolutely anything I could rip it to smithereens but he can continue to garbage shade me and I literally can’t defend myself unless I out my main, which is an extremely shitty position to be in.
In post 1829, MathBlade wrote:And I can’t prove my statement and it’s not bs without outing your main
It’s the same spot.
It is a shitty position
You can miselim me and I am more than likely right
Or you can push a miselim elsewhere
now that I've worked out what the game is with like 80% certainty I can mediate this
tho regardless of what that game turns up the described scum!meta Math spoke of does not resemble HQ's play in
this
game.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:59 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:I am not.
I set a concrete line
I explained why I think you’re scum
If anything I am being very professional
I am not scum and on my flip people will believe that I believed you’re scum
You can still argue that I am wrong
There is nothing wrong with me saying I think you’re following your scum meta
What’s wrong is you butchering it and I can’t prove it without outing my main.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:05 am
by Gamma Emerald
problem: the relevant ISO is 1000+ posts
how am I expected to actually parse all of that in a meaningful way to compare to this game?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:06 am
by Gamma Emerald
that's kinda @math
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:08 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 1839, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1828, Harley Quinn wrote:
I just get extremely salty whenever I get bs shitpushed on a garbage meta read. If he was pushing me on anything actually related to this game, I wouldn’t get pissed.
But he is throwing out bs shade which I can’t respond to without outing my main, so I guess he wasn’t sincere ablit not alt outing me then because if he actually were to link/quote absolutely anything I could rip it to smithereens but he can continue to garbage shade me and I literally can’t defend myself unless I out my main, which is an extremely shitty position to be in.
In post 1829, MathBlade wrote:And I can’t prove my statement and it’s not bs without outing your main
It’s the same spot.
It is a shitty position
You can miselim me and I am more than likely right
Or you can push a miselim elsewhere
now that I've worked out what the game is with like 80% certainty I can mediate this
tho regardless of what that game turns up the described scum!meta Math spoke of does not resemble HQ's play in
this
game.
Thank you. I need to not get so worked up but there’s something about shitty meta reads that absolutely infuriates me. That’s actually why I started playing on alts in the first place because it happened so frequently that bad meta reads were being constantly used to shitpush me by both scum and town, so I got sick of it.
The difference here between Math’s metaread and mine on him, is I went into specifics where he isn’t. His metaread is I’m “emotionally agressive” only as scum but if he was honestly in good faith trying to sort me, he would metadive me and know that this is patently false.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:25 am
by Aristeia
i just think hq and mathblade r both town >.>
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:26 am
by Titus
The problem is Math's meta doesn't firmly match
either
alignment here. Regardless of his role pm, I believe he is tilted off the face of the Earth.
Overall, I still think he's scum by meta for things I can elaborate later or this evening depending on dental appointment timings.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:28 am
by Titus
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:29 am
by Aristeia
you can read my iso i think i stated a lot of reasons for why hes town
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:30 am
by Aristeia
@hq i get that you think town mb is too stubborn to capitulate but like ive gotten him to give up before:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88600
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:33 am
by Titus
That's a first I've heard of it. Which read and when?