I'm a VT, in the neighborhood, seanzie did *not* neighborize mala. Seanzie neighborized me night one and KT night two, proof is in 488. KT did not post anything substantial in the neighborhood and did not confirm whether he was roleblocking mala, though I find it likely. Seanzie and I were talking before he died and came to the conclusion that it's very likely that mafia has compensation. However, we disagreed on whether mala was clear after the night kt died- I think it's entirely possible maf has a strongman or multitasker to counterbalance the sheer town power, and that it's very possible even if KT DID roleblock mala that mala could still be scum anyways. I consider schadd nearly clear due to being blocked by KT on a night schadd would have definitely done the kill. Seanzie thought t3 was suspicious, I do not. my gut says mala today even despite the possibility that t3 is just playing a very good scum game today, but I'll go with either today to be honest.
this is also my way of proof just like, if you iso me it's really, really obvious. me just being blatantly sure that kt and seanzie were town for no reason, etc etc
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:57 am
by T3
VOTE: mala
Alrighty then
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:16 am
by Haschel Cedricson
Yep, that checks out. RC and Schadd are locktown.
I do think mala is more likely than not to be cleared but I think mathematically we've won this no matter what.
Vote: T3
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:51 am
by redcardinal
VOTE: t3
this is for you seanzie
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:54 am
by redcardinal
as much as I doubt it personally I'm going to go with the opinion of those I feel I can trust
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:10 am
by Ausuka
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to decide an elimination. Deadline is never.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:11 am
by Ausuka
T3 was eliminated on Day 5. He was a Mafia Goon.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:12 am
by Ausuka
Haschel Cedricson survived. He was a Town Non-Consecutive Night Doctor.
Malakittens survived. She was a Vanilla Townie.
redcardinal survived. She was a Vanilla Townie.
schadd_ survived. He was a Vanilla Townie.
fantastic theme and good moderation. Liked being able to skim back and see pagetop vcs most of the time
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:23 am
by Ausuka
I think this would have been a funny endgame if t3 got rolecopped by eiralox
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:26 am
by Ausuka
In post 1842, redcardinal wrote:fantastic theme and good moderation. Liked being able to skim back and see pagetop vcs most of the time
thanks!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:35 am
by Seanzie
Thanks a lot for the game, Asuka!
I appreciated the fact that the town PRs were kind of set up to interfere with eachother in a nice way. Still very surprised there wasn't another mafia PR though, as my ability to clear seems pretty strong to not be counterable.
Was mafia informed that there would be a neighborhood?
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:39 am
by Ausuka
Mafia was informed of a Town Weak 2-shot Neighbourizer existing. Ironically this ended up being not an advantage for them because they were convinced Gamma was the neighbourizer and later thought it was Mala
I think with regards to the setup things went very right for town this game - they eliminated two mafia early which really buffs the roleblocker, and the neighbourizer got off both shots and made two potential miselims, well, not. Additionally mafia shooting VTs on the first two nights and sparing Kitty ended up being very positive for town
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:40 am
by redcardinal
I'm really happy to see in the mafia pt that my suspicion of kt was what prevented them from kiling the roleblocker. there was a point where I was starting to figure kt could be town but made sure to vocally express that I didn't believe the claim so that I could 1. make sure I got roleblocked and not seanzie and 2. maybe convince scum kt would be an easy miselim given kt was the target seanzie was going to neighborize
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:41 am
by redcardinal
not that I really knew either way, but it's cool to see a side effect of a consideration do a little something
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:42 am
by Ausuka
I do also think rolecop has weak utility - it can clear the neighbourizer and doc to a lesser extent, but mafia want to shoot those anyway, and it's most likely to do nothing. People cleared Schadd off the rolecop result which ended up being good for town, but it was a false assumption which I don't think reviewers could have predicted. I did originally have less town power in this setup but I think this was like, only slightly townsided personally