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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:34 am
by flinter
Flinter is town because she blocked scummy people?
Flinter is town because the block action isn't hidden and people are told they are blocked?
Flinter is town because she scumhunts? (not very succesfully in the last few days, I was wrong about Junpei and Timeater)
Flinter is town for taking the vengeful role, which is autolynched in a 3p lylo?

Why am I scum Fate?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:17 am
by Fate
You're scum because you voted Hindu over PP scum many moons ago

Lolgg

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:10 pm
by PeregrineV
My opinion is that I was either roleblocked to prevent a watch/protect from taking place, or flinter thought I was going to do the NK.

Otherwise, logic says there are 5 town and 2 scum left, but I feel like lynching everyone.

If you want more opinions, I'll re-read through the thread, but still need flinter to explain her "reads", since she hasn't yet.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:36 pm
by Oversoul
I want to lynch Shadow now. Reading through his iso is depressing. UNVOTE: VOTE: Shadow Dancer

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:59 pm
by Shadow Dancer
I want Over so dead now... Reading through his Iso is way too depressing.... Wait... Did I really just say that?

Over, what do you think about kiwi demanding flinters lynch first and then suddenly calling her town and voting for me
for defending town
?! Doesn't this remind you a lot of Anti's scum slip in "Back to the Future"? The irony is that it was Anti attacking kiwi there...

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:04 pm
by kiwieagle
I called flinter town?
quote plz

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:07 pm
by Oversoul
Shadow Dancer wrote:I want Over so dead now... Reading through his Iso is way too depressing.... Wait... Did I really just say that?

Over, what do you think about kiwi demanding flinters lynch first and then suddenly calling her town and voting for me
for defending town
?! Doesn't this remind you a lot of Anti's scum slip in "Back to the Future"? The irony is that it was Anti attacking kiwi there...


AHAHAHAHAHA. Shadow is most definitely scum, or retarded. I never played Back to the Future mafia so I have no idea what you are fucking talking about. FAILED BUDDY ATTEMPT, SHADOW.

You can stop the pretentious charade, Shadow. You aren't playing like town.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:21 pm
by Shadow Dancer
You weren't in BttF?! Was Lemming Mafia our only game together? And wtf? Failed buddy attempt? How is it a buddying attempt. Read that game, have a look at antifinities behaviour on the Maru waggon on D1 and tell me what kiwi just did does not remarkably look the same.

But look how kiwi cannot even stay consistent with his "reads"...
Post #1837:
kiwi wrote:[...]One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her...[...]

Yes he did call flinter town.
Guess where his vote was before? -
kiwieagle wrote:flinter your case was a mess, I refuted it.

VOTE: Flinter

Seriously, it's day 4 - and all kiwi has to contribute to the discussion is this kind of stuff?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:22 pm
by kiwieagle
kiwieagle wrote:Hmm...


Im moving flinter to null. Did some rereading and some thing of shadow caugh my attention.

unvote

Shadow Dancer wrote:
vote Fate


Obvious choice is obvious.

D1- he leaves his vote on Fate the whole day. (note: fate was the counter wagon of PP... Note: he never even mentions PP)

Shadow Dancer wrote:Just forget it... I was assuming that Fate and Kiwi did not both fuck it up... He only wasted
one
skill point which means there are other candidates for my cheap jokes to come... Still kiwi is most likely town.

Speaking of cheap-joke-targets - Gandalf is a set candidate on my list... But besides that... Or rather the very reason for that - is that Gandalf just fails in this game - and he never ever improves. That being said he is so clearly scummy in this game - even more than he normally is - all his latest post read like scum desperately craving for consistency - that I am very tempted to hammer him which I will just do if he doesn't fullclaim within the next 24h or so...

unvote
for now.

1 page before PP gets hammered - he claims PP was "clearly scum" (even though NOTHING of them is mentioned in before that....)

Shadow Dancer wrote:Oh, yeah, it's double lynch day today. So be careful where you put your vote. I suggest you use
vig X
instead of
vote x
for the first one :P

He decides to use his vig like a double lynch...


BUT...

instead he calls Timeater (for the FIRST TIME) scum and then vigs him 5 minutes later (he also thought of vigging RBT as a policy lynch
He also used his dayvig as a way to get people to post there skillbuilds....

Shadow Dancer wrote:I have heard more than enough reactions from Tim to be convinced that he is scum by now. The very moment I brought up the possibility of a guilty result he overreacted to it. Defnitely scum, affraid to end up on the wrong end of the knife.

And you know what the funny think is: I don't even have a guilty. Had I had one I'd just blew his head off at dawn. I got an innocent on Fate, anticipating scum trying to set him up as a mislynch and considering what a monstrous confirmed townie he makes with his invincibility skillset.

And, yes, I'll basically use my vig like a lynch, but with full veto on my part, i.e. if I am reasonably sure that some one is town (i.e. most people in this game) or a better lynched (i.e. Per a.k.a. "Smoke and Mirrors") I won't shoot.

That being said I fully agree with Rice & Tim vig/lynch in any order... Rice should claim her night result ASAP. No need to hold that info back if there is any.


Shadow Dancer wrote:You're right. No reason to delay this shot.

crusade Tim




One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her... as in attacking the people who attack flinter. Just enough to get noticed BUT he never outright defends her (Opportunistic much? Just because she is a vengeful...?).
He also NEVER mentions her other than in her reads she is "town"

This makes me think that Flinter is town because: Why else would Shadow be doing this? You can only direct town shots....


VOTE: Shadowdancer

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:46 pm
by Oversoul
Shadow Dancer wrote:You weren't in BttF?! Was Lemming Mafia our only game together? And wtf? Failed buddy attempt? How is it a buddying attempt. Read that game, have a look at antifinities behaviour on the Maru waggon on D1 and tell me what kiwi just did does not remarkably look the same.

But look how kiwi cannot even stay consistent with his "reads"...
Post #1837:
kiwi wrote:[...]One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her...[...]

Yes he did call flinter town.
Guess where his vote was before? -
kiwieagle wrote:flinter your case was a mess, I refuted it.

VOTE: Flinter

Seriously, it's day 4 - and all kiwi has to contribute to the discussion is this kind of stuff?


That post actually implies a couple of things, but I will let Kiwi explain himself. I have two scenarios in mind that make Kiwi's play town in that respect.

And now you just trying to play off that horrible post. :P

Why should I care what another person's scum meta is, if they aren't in this game?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:01 pm
by kiwieagle
Shadow Dancer wrote:You weren't in BttF?! Was Lemming Mafia our only game together? And wtf? Failed buddy attempt? How is it a buddying attempt. Read that game, have a look at antifinities behaviour on the Maru waggon on D1 and tell me what kiwi just did does not remarkably look the same.

But look how kiwi cannot even stay consistent with his "reads"...
Post #1837:
kiwi wrote:[...]One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her...[...]

Yes he did call flinter town.
Guess where his vote was before? -
kiwieagle wrote:flinter your case was a mess, I refuted it.

VOTE: Flinter

Seriously, it's day 4 - and all kiwi has to contribute to the discussion is this kind of stuff?

I was the one who lynched anti. If I recall you didnt do shit during that scenario.
Also your wrong... Anti never attacked me.

Also
Are you saying that if Vi is scummy in game X for A reasons, then Chesskid is scummy in game Y because Vi did the same thing in game X?
Thats bad logic, because everyone has his playstyle.
If Vi hit caps locks when he is about to get lynched... wouldnt that look like flailing on Vi's part?
If Fate hit caps lock when he is about to get lynched.... people would find it normal.. not scummy, unlike ^^


And leaning town =/= town.
its like saying: a bit scummy = confscum


...also isnt Mafia a game of analyzing? What is wrong with changing your reads? Such a shame that im not a cop so I stay with fixed (..or faked) the whole game.


Also what do you mean all im contributing to the discussion is "this kind of stuff"?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:56 am
by AurorusVox
Midpoint Alert! You've got just over a week 'til deadline.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:58 am
by Hinduragi
Oversoul wrote:I want to lynch Shadow now. Reading through his iso is depressing. UNVOTE: VOTE: Shadow Dancer

Reading through Fate's ISO is depressing too because he's only had ONE time when he could vote so far but that doesn't mean we're gonna fuckin lynch him, now does it? Shadow is TOWN.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:59 am
by Hinduragi
Shadow Dancer wrote:You weren't in BttF?! Was Lemming Mafia our only game together? And wtf? Failed buddy attempt? How is it a buddying attempt. Read that game, have a look at antifinities behaviour on the Maru waggon on D1 and tell me what kiwi just did does not remarkably look the same.

But look how kiwi cannot even stay consistent with his "reads"...
Post #1837:
kiwi wrote:[...]One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her...[...]

Yes he did call flinter town.
Guess where his vote was before? -
kiwieagle wrote:flinter your case was a mess, I refuted it.

VOTE: Flinter

Seriously, it's day 4 - and all kiwi has to contribute to the discussion is this kind of stuff?

And YOU, stop townflailing.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:02 am
by Hinduragi
flinter wrote:Flinter is town because she blocked scummy people?
Flinter is town because the block action isn't hidden and people are told they are blocked?
Flinter is town because she scumhunts? (not very succesfully in the last few days, I was wrong about Junpei and Timeater)
Flinter is town for taking the vengeful role, which is autolynched in a 3p lylo?

Why am I scum Fate?

Pere was a D1 suspect.
And kiwi. That's 3 in a row and you aren't trying to just build fake cases? Scum can "scumhunt" too.
So you want us to let you live until LYLO while your buddy coasts with you?

Why are you being quiet while a new TOWN lynch goes on and, on top of that, he was a person who defended you?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:04 am
by Hinduragi
kiwieagle wrote:
kiwieagle wrote:Hmm...


Im moving flinter to null. Did some rereading and some thing of shadow caugh my attention.

unvote

Shadow Dancer wrote:
vote Fate


Obvious choice is obvious.

D1- he leaves his vote on Fate the whole day. (note: fate was the counter wagon of PP... Note: he never even mentions PP)

Shadow Dancer wrote:Just forget it... I was assuming that Fate and Kiwi did not both fuck it up... He only wasted
one
skill point which means there are other candidates for my cheap jokes to come... Still kiwi is most likely town.

Speaking of cheap-joke-targets - Gandalf is a set candidate on my list... But besides that... Or rather the very reason for that - is that Gandalf just fails in this game - and he never ever improves. That being said he is so clearly scummy in this game - even more than he normally is - all his latest post read like scum desperately craving for consistency - that I am very tempted to hammer him which I will just do if he doesn't fullclaim within the next 24h or so...

unvote
for now.

1 page before PP gets hammered - he claims PP was "clearly scum" (even though NOTHING of them is mentioned in before that....)

Shadow Dancer wrote:Oh, yeah, it's double lynch day today. So be careful where you put your vote. I suggest you use
vig X
instead of
vote x
for the first one :P

He decides to use his vig like a double lynch...


BUT...

instead he calls Timeater (for the FIRST TIME) scum and then vigs him 5 minutes later (he also thought of vigging RBT as a policy lynch
He also used his dayvig as a way to get people to post there skillbuilds....

Shadow Dancer wrote:I have heard more than enough reactions from Tim to be convinced that he is scum by now. The very moment I brought up the possibility of a guilty result he overreacted to it. Defnitely scum, affraid to end up on the wrong end of the knife.

And you know what the funny think is: I don't even have a guilty. Had I had one I'd just blew his head off at dawn. I got an innocent on Fate, anticipating scum trying to set him up as a mislynch and considering what a monstrous confirmed townie he makes with his invincibility skillset.

And, yes, I'll basically use my vig like a lynch, but with full veto on my part, i.e. if I am reasonably sure that some one is town (i.e. most people in this game) or a better lynched (i.e. Per a.k.a. "Smoke and Mirrors") I won't shoot.

That being said I fully agree with Rice & Tim vig/lynch in any order... Rice should claim her night result ASAP. No need to hold that info back if there is any.


Shadow Dancer wrote:You're right. No reason to delay this shot.

crusade Tim




One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her... as in attacking the people who attack flinter. Just enough to get noticed BUT he never outright defends her (Opportunistic much? Just because she is a vengeful...?).
He also NEVER mentions her other than in her reads she is "town"

This makes me think that Flinter is town because: Why else would Shadow be doing this? You can only direct town shots....


VOTE: Shadowdancer

ITT the Shadow bandwagon never realizes he could just be retarded.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:11 am
by Fate
ITT Hindu comes to the conclusion SD is town but that Flinter must be scum then by PoE and refuses to contribute

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:35 pm
by kiwieagle
what...

how did you come to the conclusion that sd is retarded with my post?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:17 pm
by AurorusVox
Prodding flinter, Oversoul, PeregrineV and Shadow Dancer...

Game Activity is at low health! AV uses Super Activity Potion!
It is not very effective...

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:20 pm
by PeregrineV
Sorry- weekends aren't the best for me. I'll come back tonight, but still want flinter to explain as per my previous request.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:15 pm
by Oversoul
Ya activity is a cyclic disease. once one person is inactive, then another, then another.

Unvote
Vote: Flinter


Venge Kiwi if you must, but this game is stagnating and needs to go somewhere.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:42 pm
by Hinduragi
kiwieagle wrote:what...

how did you come to the conclusion that sd is retarded with my post?

I didn't. I read the posts and made my own conclusion. You never thought SD might just be retarded.
Fate wrote:ITT Hindu comes to the conclusion SD is town but that Flinter must be scum then by PoE and refuses to contribute

SD is town. Flinter has been scum. Read any part of D4.

Yep, activity is seriously lacking. I've seen this happen plenty and it's obvious that no progress is going to be made. Time to end it.
Vote: Flinter

Hammer. Tomorrow will be really easy, though.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:53 pm
by Fate
Bout... LOL

ALMSOT SAID IT

I REALLY DID

TIME

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:11 pm
by AurorusVox
Day 4 | Votecount 3


Fate
(0)
flinter
(3) - Fate, Oversoul, Hinduragi
[L-1]

Hinduragi
(0)
kiwieagle
(1) - Shadow Dancer
[L-3]

Oversoul
(0)
PeregrineV
(0)
Shadow Dancer
(1) - kiwieagle
[L-3]


Not Voting (2): flinter, PeregrineV


flinter is at L-1!



With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch

Deadline is
00:30am GMT, 12th November 2011
. That's in (expired on 2011-11-11 19:30:00).

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:52 am
by Oversoul
Fate/Hindu scum team... highly unlikely, although Gandalf did say that Fate only catches him when there is further explanation needed...

out out, you damn thought. ._.

Someone lynch Flinter before I go crazy.