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@saulres: Given your avatar, aren't you better suited for straw-brained ideas anyway?

Saulres, what was the theory?

I was trying to find theam's role to see if he could be scum with a town alt. I came up with a couple of loooooooong-stretch possibilities so figured it might not be in the current thread and izak pretty much confirmed it for me. (I wish Tierce were still here so we could ask her to grab the cache of it.)

It's just the way CCV was going on and on about her post restriction, and theam seems to know nothing about it, that got me wondering. I found something where a hydra slot had both scum and town in it, but nothing really close to what we see here.

I don't see how getting lightheaded while making a post so it's broken is a scumtell. I would expect BBmolla to jump on.

Inte, why did you vote me?

Redpanda's probably scum because of the disguised omgus but no one's going to vote him. I had a look at his vote history and he didn't vote Dana today even though he screamed at him that he's scum.

↑ saulres wrote:First thing I found of interest: He spent all of D1 tunneling on BBMolla for asking for a claim from RedPanda beyond mason. That's not scummy in and of itself, I can see where he's coming from.

But then his first post on Day2 includes this:

↑ Captain Haddock wrote:a massclaim(which we should do tommorow)

Why the turnaround, Captain? Also why did you want to wait a day?

And then you go on to continue criticizing asking for claims.

I do see something in one of his BB quotes that I'm going to follow up on to see if it yields anything.

A massclaim is good idea because you can see which claims make sense but if there isn't one it's best the scum don't know about any good PRs.

I thought we should have a massclaim Day 3 for 2 reasons.
1. You get an extra Day of play to see if someones claim makes sense.
2. PRs get 2 results instead of 1.

Yes I find rolefishing scummy and there shouldn't be any unnecessary claims before a massclaim.

Oh, and now you're

back

to wanting a massclaim. Could you please explain your flip-floppiness on the whole claiming issue?

Back?

↑ saulres wrote:But thank you for vouching that that's a regular part of my play. I think you're the only one left who can do that (Tierce could have too. Haddock

might

be able to but I can't remember which game I played with him in and I think it was eaten by tigers anyway.)

I can't remember if you did have any in that game, there was definately no setup spec because that was 369.


Let's have a massclaim a few rl days after Foxace is replaced(we have 10 days). We should do a scummy to towny order but it might take to long for (almost)everyone to agree to an order.

↑ Captain Haddock wrote:Back?

I wasn't differentiating between claiming and massclaiming. Doing that through your ISO, it seemed like you were flipflopping (searching "claim" doesn't work because some were just in response to something else -- I don't want to go through it again looking but I will tomorrow if you want me to).

↑ Captain Haddock wrote:Let's have a massclaim a few rl days after Foxace is replaced(we have 10 days). We should do a scummy to towny order but it might take to long for (almost)everyone to agree to an order.

With only three real noclaims I don't think it would take that long. Still not seeing the advantage of tellling scum which roles are worth killing off though.

↑ saulres wrote:theam, why do you think your predecessor said this?:

↑ Candy Corn Vampire wrote:It doesn't effect the way I convey information (I can post as much as I want), however it effects how I can play though.

Why you rolefishing

↑ saulres wrote:I was trying to find theam's role to see if he could be scum with a town alt. I came up with a couple of loooooooong-stretch possibilities so figured it might not be in the current thread and izak pretty much confirmed it for me. (I wish Tierce were still here so we could ask her to grab the cache of it.)

It's just the way CCV was going on and on about her post restriction, and theam seems to know nothing about it, that got me wondering. I found something where a hydra slot had both scum and town in it, but nothing really close to what we see here.

What was the point in saying this

...

↑ BBmolla wrote:What was the point in saying this

I was asked. Plus...

↑ BBmolla wrote:Why you rolefishing

I'm not rolefishing, and I'll gladly explain once them responds to this:

↑ theamatuer wrote:He prob thinks posting with the alt would limit his own activity or somthing.

Why would he think that? You don't seem to "have a very unfun post restriction"...

Saul did you check out the Dummy in worst role thread btw?

Shhh... Please let theam respond.

Well. If theam is scum, I'm pretty sure BBMolla is too. Not that I think either of them is scum.

Let's have a massclaim a few rl days after Foxace is replaced(we have 10 days). We should do a scummy to towny order but it might take to long for (almost)everyone to agree to an order.

You do whatever you want, but I'm never participating in a massclaim unless town is stupid enough to try and lynch me for not claiming. Just giving everyone fair warning.

Popcorn it if it's gonna be like that, but I fail to see how it could yet be in town's interest to massclaim.

disguised OMGUS?
Lets look at your post.
I thought redpanda was town. but hes asking dana to claim.thats ridiculous But hes attacking dana Hmmm..

Haddock I mean this is really funny.

You want Dana lynched.

And the fact is I wasn't even asking dana to claim.
All i wanted was for dana to give me any type of information which would make me believe that he wasn't just making things up to avoid getting lynched.

But lets forget about that.

Lets assume I was forcing dana to claim.

back to point 1.

You want dana lynched.
So even if I was forcing dana to claim.
Its not supposed to be ridiculous.
You believe dana is scum.
Which means forcing dana to claim is going to help you.
And have you even read the arguments between me and dana?
Apparently not.

And yes the quote below is 100% fact.

↑ RedPanda wrote:

↑ danakillsu wrote:Is it just me or were there just multiple unexplained Captain Haddock votes? I looked back to see a case on him, but didn't find one. Someone wanna explain?

this is obvious.

Hes trying to get you lynched.

then he says this.

↑ Captain Haddock wrote:I thought Redpanda was town but asking for a claim without a massclaim is ridiculous but he's attacking Dana... I need to work this out. I remember Redpanda saying CCV not answering me is fine but a time will come when we will have to. I think we should masslaim later today actually.

Either he was drunk or was on crack when he said this or he's just scum.

Either you just fucked up as town or you're scum.

↑ Captain Haddock wrote:I don't see how getting lightheaded while making a post so it's broken is a scumtell. I would expect BBmolla to jump on.

I mean If I'm reading this quote right, You're pretty much admitting you fucked up.

↑ Captain Haddock wrote:Yes I find rolefishing scummy and there shouldn't be any unnecessary claims before a massclaim.

And here you've gone back to the reason why I'm voting for you.

If I was trying to get theamatuer or any other person I have a town read on to claim.
I understand why rolefishing them is scummy.

But no I'm trying to get my scumread to give me any info which if hes lying about I can catch him.

If dana was your town read, I would understand your indignation.

But Dana is your scum read. You're voting for dana. You want dana to get lynched today.

I mean come on.

Do you really lack this much common sense.
Or are you just being flailing scum?

@saulres - I DID READ BBmolla's CLAME BUT I UTERLY FORGOT IT!11111!1 OMG WTF

@izakthegoomba - V/LA THROUGHOUT SATURDAY AND POSIBLY IN2 SUNDAY AFTERNON11!1

Hey theam! Stop lurking and come answer the question.

@saurles: I have 2 spots in the game, mine and the one controlled by Gimmicky Alt. since my slot needed to control 2 players, CCV thought it would cause her own posting to decline, hence the PR claim to explain if someone notices a change from her usual play

@BB, are you ignoring 1833 or did you just not see it?

1062 is a good post on Haddock. why do you think RedPanda is scum for "fishing" or "omgusing" dana, when you're VOTING DANA, haddock?

↑ mafia-n00b wrote:I don't get it... you obviously thought it was smart to use it once, and it brought in town. So what's changed?

I went through you in ISO and a see a point where you claim it's reasonable to assume that if you bring in a second player, they'd be scum. Why is this?

Even if it's a coin-toss each time, that should argue for you not having used it in the first place, because a 50/50 shot at town is horrible odds for the town. Of course, it could be something like 85/15 town/mafia or whatever, but regardless, why are you not willing to do what you've already done?

Of course, scum-BB wouldn't want to bring in more town, but you've made a reasonably cogent case that you wouldn't have targeted Tierce originally if you were scum. So, what am I missing?

Balance.

Okay, imagine you were creating this game. Now, best case scenario is you make it so both recruits are town. What would be plausible worst case scenario?

In my opinion, it'd be one scum recruit. Two scum recruits would be gamebreaking. In addition, it'd now quite literally have to be the second if one were scum, as the first was town.

That and it's not really worth doing, unless you have some stellar scumhunter. I brought Tierce in to have someone to talk to about this game, as talking to some players in this game(Pokerface comes to mind...) would just be a waste of my time. I trust her scumdar for the most part, and I felt I'd be able to read her if she were scum(Maybe not, but I think so, and I also had doubts about first being scum.)

Is there really any reason to recruit another person?

My theory is that if I recruited again it'd end up being a traitor neighbor, that'd probably be the most balanced scenario.

Or ... there's a 50/50 chance for each person!! Your "logic" was always fucking terrible on this and it hasn't gotten any better.

You think it's more plausible that the mod flips a coin each time I recruit someone

nothx, that's more illogical than my theory.

No, it really, really isn't.

I don't think that's NECESSARILY the case anyway, I just think there are about 10,000 more likely explanations than yours.

What is your point then?

I mean, if you think my logic is bad, I really don't care, I was only answering MN.

My point is that I can't figure out if you seriously believe that utter, utter bullshit. I really find your play individually scummy this game, but feel unsure about your scum motivation in some things (such as inviting Tierce), and I think I believe dana, which makes you town. But I still struggle to reconcile myself with it.