↑TeChNoWC wrote:Sounds like we are on the same wavelength, and having the same reservations in terms of mislynches and the vastly easy way for them to occur.
I think, given that criteria + the fact that Spyrex has a hefty bag of scumtells that he may be the next best bet for a lynch, but I don't want to rush another wagon just yet.
MattP wrote:Lol lets just kill spyrex he is so fuckin scummy kondi has been more town lately.
Also his town read on t bone read that he already knew his alignment.
VOTE: spyrex
Yes I'm indecisive what of it? I'm sticking with this vote until spyrex is lynched though
Way to miss the point, MattP.
Yep. Aaand now I am back to worrying that lynching Spyrex would be hitting town because another keen wagoner jumps at the chance for a lynch. It just seems that every person I consider scummy and scrutinize manages to get a wagon of eager beavers. Heck, even the eager lynchers get wagons on them by eager lynchers for being eager lynchers. It just doesn't stop.
No idea where to start now. Need to do yet again (sigh) more reading.
too many people driving lynches on random people for no good reason. I'm starting to feel that it's currently impossible to lynch scum, because scum can easily put pressure elsewhere in order to save a buddy. As such, I'd be particularly suspicious of players who are on mislynches while actual scum are being wagoned, but we won't determine that until later when we have scumflips.
Meanwhile, we can look for players who are jumping on lynches unjustified; it's a much weaker scumtell without flips (although I won't mourn the in-game death of players like that even if they're town), but it probably has a better chance of hitting scum than anything else right now. (I imagine that there are some scum in crazy lynch mode trying to burn through townies quickly, and several more lurking to avoid early pressure; the lurkers are going to be near-impossible to catch until the player list shortens a bit, though.) I still feel good about my SpyreX vote, as a result.
One other thing I'm wondering about is the Lowman wagon; we have people vocally calling him town, and people equally vocally calling him scum. If he flips scum, I'd be very suspicious of anyone defending him. (Possibly even if he flips town, although it's a weaker scumtell in that case.) This isn't to say that voting him is a particularly townish thing to do either! It's just, I can't tell how the situation got that polarised on such little information, and am wondering why people are treating the situation like it's such a major apocalypse.
Sounds like we are on the same wavelength, and having the same reservations in terms of mislynches and the vastly easy way for them to occur.
I think, given that criteria + the fact that Spyrex has a hefty bag of scumtells that he may be the next best bet for a lynch, but I don't want to rush another wagon just yet.
Just as a sidenote: its 38 alive, not 39, since Luffy's mislynch. I was pondering over the numbers when I noticed it, because I have been thinking; with the mimes dead (seven from memory), how many scum do you think that leaves? and what are our odds of hitting town vs scum on a lynch? Is it possible that there are only a small minority of scum left, like five or six?
NS, do you have a post restriction?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:21 am
by Nobody Special
I do not. What makes you think I would?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:23 am
by callforjudgement
↑Nobody Special wrote:I do not. What makes you think I would?
I didn't, but in the last two games I've read where you were scum, you fakeclaimed a post restriction to explain why you were lurking. I wanted to make it harder for you to do that again if you were scum, while not affecting you at all if you were town.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:27 am
by Nobody Special
Oh, yeah, that. No, this game is just mindbendingly huge, and it took me a good while to really get into it. (Did you really read ALL of WiH3?)
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:30 am
by callforjudgement
↑Nobody Special wrote:Oh, yeah, that. No, this game is just mindbendingly huge, and it took me a good while to really get into it. (Did you really read ALL of WiH3?) :eek:
Same as last time, if kondi flips town, I'm voting spyrex.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:13 am
by SpyreX
If you lynch me, will you guys do me the favor of at least trying to get a group and forge through some of these lynches that need to happen?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:37 am
by zoraster
will you join me on Peregrine, SpyreX?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:44 am
by kondi2424
I can do this. Spy WILL be lynched tomorrow. VOTE: kondi
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 11:02 am
by UberNinja
p-edit: @ kondi... uhhh wtf... no, he goes today. stop being stupid.
↑kondi2424 wrote:Spy's been obvious scum for a long time, but everyone's been too
lazy
afraid to do anything about it.
Agreed. It is time for a SpyreX lynch.
↑manho wrote:lowman is town.
NS is scummy, but he is always scummy, so idk.
amrun is town.
kondi is likely scum.
spyrex is strange, but he is the powerful wizard. i would rather sheep him than go against him.
No, kondi is town.
Did you really not read kondi's post about people not wanting to vote SpyreX? Because you just exemplified it.
↑manho wrote:but spyrex is voting amrun. i think she is town. so i really don't know what to do.
Hint: Vote Spyrex.
↑TeChNoWC wrote:Wagoners and quick lynchers must love this game. 10 votes out of 38, just over a quarter. And the rest sit by and watch the mayhem unfold.
OKay, so, there's not even been a flip, and you KNOW this is a mislynch, AND you're ready for the NEXT mislynch?
Then we have a the slip right above this post.
Vote: IceGuy
Why did you not pursue this lead?
↑Hoopla wrote:SpyreX is on my scumlist now as well. I disliked his campaigning for policy lynchee rights in his opening post of the game, and the fact he is now steadfastly enforcing policy all over the place. Weird vibes.
Let's do it. Hop on, sister.
↑Hoopla wrote:So many people have probably fallen behind. I'm going to shut up for a while and let others dictate terms for a while. My thoughts are known.
May I ask for your opinion now?
↑Hoopla wrote:I'm fine with that hammer, even though Moneybags was town. So be it. He wasn't a bad lynch and I think the original impetus was town driven.
↑Zajnet wrote:I know you're not a newbie, and I know you know that tell, but knowledge of a tell does not prevent one from committing it.
So, the insatiable urge to feign surprise as scum was so great that it eclipsed my knowledge of this tell.
I legitimately lol'd at this post. <3 Hoopla
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 11:08 am
by SpyreX
Not with hoopla, Zor.
Here's the dealio: Lynch me with this lynch.
HOWEVER, before you do let me do the full VCA and give my opinions on the chunk of this game that opinions can be actually given on. I'll actually TRY to give a little bit on everyone but farrtttt.
More importantly, since it fell apart immediately which is why I'm fine dying, FORM A CONSENSUS AMONGST YOURSELF AND BURN THROUGH SOME LYNCHES FAST. This game size, low NK's and the fact we control the majority of kills means that there is absolutely no reason STILL for the rampant lurking and noiseposting. Apathy is going to eat this game if it doesn't become immediately clear that apathy = death.
I will fufill my part of the bargain tonight. I'll probably just use myko's VC's instead of the armada. Of course, I expect them to actually get fine tooth combed so that if there's mistakes they get caught.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 11:15 am
by UberNinja
↑SpyreX wrote:Apathy is going to eat this game if it doesn't become immediately clear that apathy = death.
I will shamelessly sheep all of your reads if you flip town, based 100% on this part of your post.
You still need to die though, unfortunately. Otherwise I will never forgive myself if you're scum.
OKay, so, there's not even been a flip, and you KNOW this is a mislynch, AND you're ready for the NEXT mislynch?
Then we have a the slip right above this post.
Vote: IceGuy
Why did you not pursue this lead?
The Careful Reader will note that I made two unrelated posts shortly after this one, then disappeared for a full 1,200 posts. By the time I got back, he was gone.
Also, SpyreX is so town it hurts. Please to not be lynching my Wizard Friend.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 11:46 am
by theamatuer
Get NS. He's buddying Spyrex for towncred
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:06 pm
by Chronopie
I have to point out, even though I myself am guilty of the apathy Spyre's trying to fight, he does have a point. Vocal town lynches vocal town, lurker scum wins.
So I wouldn't lynch him yet.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:08 pm
by Trevor
Vote: Spyrex
Not on the top of my scumread list, but his actions have felt fake and I've called him out on this multiple times today.
Also lol @ kondi votes.
