Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:23 pm
you gave up on the ZZZX push pretty damn quickIn post 1846, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:seriously, titus not knowing necro's case?
Vote titus....
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:32 pm
what you want me to tunnel?In post 1850, Xayzeck wrote:you gave up on the ZZZX push pretty damn quickIn post 1846, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:seriously, titus not knowing necro's case?
Vote titus....
Did you get rid of TSO because you knew he would keep tunneling on you?
I vote how I vote, when I vote and use my vote as I see fit...
titus I have seen is more game aware then that... so it is worth a vote... it should not be shocking.
Zzzx is not doing anything to help and has yet to post since off VLA. If it were soley up to me, ZZZX would be out of the game by now.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:33 pm
VLA from the 26th until the 31st
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:48 pm
no? i just wanted to know why the ZZZX pushed ended so quickIn post 1851, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:what you want me to tunnel?
Did you get rid of TSO because you knew he would keep tunneling on you?
I vote how I vote, when I vote and use my vote as I see fit...
titus I have seen is more game aware then that... so it is worth a vote... it should not be shocking.
Zzzx is not doing anything to help and has yet to post since off VLA. If it were soley up to me, ZZZX would be out of the game by now.
nope, kinda glad he's gone but he promised a less dicky play today, so maybe if he stayed i wouldn't have minded
it wasn't shocking, i was asking you why you gave up zzzx so quickly. rather, why is your meta argument on titus more valuable than whatever you got on ZZZX?
huh, I see. so do you actually scumread the guy or is it a policy lynch thing?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:21 pm
What case? I just saw jon's a lurker... why do people think that's a case?In post 1851, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:what you want me to tunnel?In post 1850, Xayzeck wrote:you gave up on the ZZZX push pretty damn quickIn post 1846, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:seriously, titus not knowing necro's case?
Vote titus....
Did you get rid of TSO because you knew he would keep tunneling on you?
I vote how I vote, when I vote and use my vote as I see fit...
titus I have seen is more game aware then that... so it is worth a vote... it should not be shocking.
Zzzx is not doing anything to help and has yet to post since off VLA. If it were soley up to me, ZZZX would be out of the game by now.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:22 pm
Can, yes.
Will get productive talk out of, not at this point in time.
Spring's posting looks vaguely town. PV's does, too.
(By the way, Malakittens has probably moved up to second-strongest townread, or close to.)
I.In post 1815, RachMarie wrote:VOTE: Dry fit
mastin why go after a lurker when we have a clear wagon here. After all, we started one on this dude and then wham bam the one on Aegor went through the roof.
AM.
NOT.
FUCKING.
GOING.
AFTER.
A.
GOD. DAMNED.
LURKER.
Why the
fuck
This isn't a damn tunnel. jon will flip scum. As close to 100% as I will permit myself to say.
/ranting.
Okay. So aside from me lynching jon, I suppose I owe you an answer on why
not
While I've had him as more likely scum than not, I'm second-guessing that conclusion, with how the end of D1 went. It looked like scum didn't care which of Aegor or Dry-fit got lynched...which would mean that both were town. Furthermore, the switch from Dry-fit onto Aegor was mostly driven by the dead town player TSO, so getting rid of him makes a mislynch on Dry-fit easier. Additionally, Dry-fit's claim makes sense as being from town.
Plus, Dry-fit's being raised as an option above Titus and jon, sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...not supporting that wagon today.
Or tomorrow.
And frankly, by that point in time, likely not ever after.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:37 pm
And this is scum posting to its core. jon's spending his entire time addressing...people he's scumreading. While addressing players who you're scumreading is all nice and fine...he's doing nothing BUT addressing them. Furthermore, he is clearly omgusing, from his read on us to Rach (see how defensive he is about the lurking comment?) and maybe even MalaK. (I'll need to check posting there, plus Shiny's, some more to see how bad it is.) He's yet again treating me as if I'm town and trying to talk me down, while simultaneously saying I'm scum. Look at the phrasing. The sentence structure is NOT that of a town player scumreading me and saying that I'm scum-refusing-to-change-read. It's that of scum saying that I'm town-refusing-to-change-read...WHILE scumreading me. If that wasn't enough, you've got a "right for the wrong reasons" in there, in that jon KNOWS I'm right, even if he thinks my reasoning sucks.In post 1816, jon_h61 wrote:Mastin's made it pretty clear, no matter my Role PM, there's no way I'm Town. Because sheIn post 1815, RachMarie wrote:VOTE: Dry fit
mastin why go after a lurker when we have a clear wagon here. After all, we started one on this dude and then wham bam the one on Aegor went through the roof.knowsthis, she doesn't have to giveanyconsideration that there's any chance of being wrong. I'm honored and all, that Necro thinks I'm so dangerous I need killing first and foremost. I just don't think it's for the right reasons.
What makes you think Dry fit is scum?
You can post ten times a day, and be considered a lurker in this game, but I do post less in Large games, (I usually avoid them), I'm usually busy playing catch up. There's soo many rabbit trails that need going down, to track down scum.
@ Mala I still want to know what made you erroneously think I'm a Polarity Tracker?
My top scum reads are Necro, Rach, Thor, Shiny and Mala at this moment. (insert legal disclaimer here)
This coming from someone allegedlyIn post 1824, Titus wrote:Jon will likely flip town and you'll just realize that you're shutting me out Necro. Then again, I get the paranoia but damn dude and dudette.
also
scumreading us last I checked.Everything.Necroyou still haven't answered why Doublade is town? I've asked it about like five times now.
You haven't given a single reason why you want jon dead that isn't just fancy words for lurkage.
For both, just on opposites.
Fucking everything.
Literally every fucking thing.
About both of them, as polar opposites in just about every fucking way possible.
Doublade is town-as-fuck; jon is confscum.
Doublade's play is natural; talah and now jon's has been artificial. Their tone says it all--Doublade's is that of town, trying to figure things out and letting info flow freely, unafraid of others and not fearing anything. talah's and jon's have been structured, precise and calculated, extremely self-aware and critical of their critics, on the defensive in contrast to Doublade's offense. It literally is the difference between fucking day and night.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:45 pm
This is NOT town-scumreading-a-player.In post 1825, jon_h61 wrote:Well, hell yeah. You're writing speeches about how this slot couldn't possibly be Town. Of course I'm going to bite back now and then.In post 1822, The Necromancers wrote:see, you keep calling us scum, but we still see shit like this^In post 1816, jon_h61 wrote:Mastin's made it pretty clear, no matter my Role PM, there's no way I'm Town. Because he knows this, he doesn't have to give any consideration that there's any chance of being wrong. I'm honored and all, that Necro thinks I'm so dangerous I need killing first and foremost. I just don't think it's for the right reasons.
this implies you think we're town genuinely suspecting you, but you want to keep on taking potshots
This is scum, lashing out in desperation.
He's lashing out because we're scumreading him strongly--explicitly, that's his reasoning.
No effort to understand why we scumread him in the first place, merely attempts to shut down the validity of said scumread.
IF YOU.In post 1832, Titus wrote:There's no way Mastin pushes for this bad of a policy lynch.
LEGITIMATELY THINK.
FOR SO MUCH AS ONE FUCKING SECOND.
I WOULD
EVER
FUCK YOU.
(Thankfully, I just so happen to think you don't.
Because there's no fucking way.
NO FUCKING WAY.
That a town-Titus would call my push on jon a policy fucking lynch.)
(...That being said, I will admit, Antihero probably is a little bit of a bad influence on me.
My tone is sometimes getting dangerously close to his, merging us from two into one.)Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:51 pm
Yeah...as either alignment.In post 1833, Titus wrote:A town!mastina I can get through to.
Not happening this game.
You are manipulative scum.
Rather than inquisitive town.
When you are town, your posting is meant to solve the game.
When you are scum, your posting is meant to obscure and/or twist the truth.
When you are town, your effort is in working with others. (Albeit in your own unique way.)
When you are scum, your effort is in shutting them down.
Your posting this game has been focused on directing the flow of information, from your D1 play to your insistence on jon being a lurker to saying Doublade is scum. Rather than focused on creating new information.
This is your scumgame. Through-and-through.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:56 pm
You want anIn post 1835, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:seriously zzzx is a superb vote at this juncture...
actual
lurker-vote?This would be it; ZX has been lurking at least a little bit if not a lot. (I'll need to double-check this, though.)
No way in fucking hell is jon a lurker.
I'm not. We can deal with the possibility of me being wrong come D4.In post 1836, Titus wrote:And if Mastin's wrong??
LITERALLY FUCKING ISO ME AND/OR OUR HYDRA AND CONTROL-F FOR TALAH. And jon. There's nothing but fucking reason after reason why they're scum. Because this is their fucking scumgame. Period.You also haven't answered my question about where Necro said this was more than a lurker lynch.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:58 pm
this would be where i jump onto the titus wagon and say "hey mastin do this if you're so concerned about titus-scum" but skot-scum's last vote mmmmmmmmmmmmmnotrightnow.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:01 pm
Die you scumfuck.In post 1838, Nachomamma8 wrote:Prod dodge, bitches
(<3 Nacho, but seriously. Will lynch your ass if I run low on scumspects...which I sort-of am.)Uhh...
*points to TSO's posting*
...Lynching Dry-fit is kinda the
opposite
of respecting TSO, yaknow.Titus/jon, on the other hand, I'm sure he'd be delighted to see hang.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:02 pm
i was being sarcastic because his reads were so great on aegor and probably dry fit
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:04 pm
Well, aside from SKOT having a significant chance of being town, there is a little thing we like to call "bussing", which can be appealing when the players pushing the lynch are all fairly strong.In post 1860, Doublade wrote:this would be where i jump onto the titus wagon and say "hey mastin do this if you're so concerned about titus-scum" but skot-scum's last vote mmmmmmmmmmmmmnotrightnow.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:12 pm
it's more like i liked the dry fit lynch yesterday and it's still the best right now / today / until the lynch actually goes through which without tso being bullheaded is probably possible and i'm probably not letting go of it no matter how iffy i want to act
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:12 pm
Necro, I am trying to get more information out. I want people to discuss Doublade. I want discussion about your case. I want to solve the game. However, massive discredits and refusal to highlight cases (and calling me a dumb ass for not seeing it) prevent me from actually doing so. I MUST interact with players to solve the game.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:23 pm
discredits? where?In post 1865, Titus wrote:Necro, I am trying to get more information out. I want people to discuss Doublade. I want discussion about your case. I want to solve the game. However, massive discredits and refusal to highlight cases (and calling me a dumb ass for not seeing it) prevent me from actually doing so. I MUST interact with players to solve the game.
i'm afraid you're misunderstanding me. i'm not calling you a dumbass for not seeing a case. i'm calling you scum for pretending there's not a case and making empty prods for content under the guise of "trying to figure things out". the premise for my case for you being scum is that you're NOT a dumbass.
if you're really interested in further progressing your doublade read, why have you not articulated reasoning why they're scum beyond the extremely superficial "they wanted twilight to be shorter" argument? (i can't believe you think that's an acceptable argument by the way; if they're scum wanting to avoid slippage, wouldn't they just... you know... not post?)
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:28 pm
Everyone rolling their eyes saying there's no way Titus can't see the case are all discredits. You can't actually believe the case you're putting forth is a discredit.
None of my prods are empty, hence why I am following up on my statements and wanting discussion. It absolutely is an acceptable argument. I find that scum (with myself being the rare exception) want the day cut shorter if their is some piece of information they want to hide. When I see someone say, "hurry up and end the day/twilight" and there won't be disasterous results and they are not new, I immediately think it's a scumclaim. I don't need more than that before I start a discussion because I look at reactions to a piece of evidence and then build more from that said reaction. The fact that no one talks about Doublade's slip makes me believe more that Doublade is scum and this fact should be hidden.
The slot gets a free pass becaues Marquis is a giant fucking troll. You don't give usual trolls town status because they troll. His whole ISO, majority of it less than two lines, indicates scum. He's doing empty vapid content.
Now, can you please link me to this case that I've overlooked that you believe is more than a lurker case?
None of my prods are empty, hence why I am following up on my statements and wanting discussion. It absolutely is an acceptable argument. I find that scum (with myself being the rare exception) want the day cut shorter if their is some piece of information they want to hide. When I see someone say, "hurry up and end the day/twilight" and there won't be disasterous results and they are not new, I immediately think it's a scumclaim. I don't need more than that before I start a discussion because I look at reactions to a piece of evidence and then build more from that said reaction. The fact that no one talks about Doublade's slip makes me believe more that Doublade is scum and this fact should be hidden.
The slot gets a free pass becaues Marquis is a giant fucking troll. You don't give usual trolls town status because they troll. His whole ISO, majority of it less than two lines, indicates scum. He's doing empty vapid content.
Now, can you please link me to this case that I've overlooked that you believe is more than a lurker case?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:07 pm
Thinking I need to revise my readslist.
Shiny Hydreigon
Doublade
Malakittens
MafiaSSK
Dry-fit
Thor665 (sincerely doubt talah's interaction with Nati was scum-scum)
RachMarie
Saki
Spring Starflower
PeregrineV
Zdenek (somewhat-stale read)
ZZZX
TiphaineDeath
Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Xayzeck
Nachomamma8
Jordan_Downey
Titus
Jon_h61
Divisions here should be fairly obvious, though I haven't done my full load of research. There's a talah iso, jon iso, Titus iso (Fear's was useless), plus VCA, plus referencing that with the notes I had, and thinking what is probable given this.
Basically, I maintain the ease of breaking this wide open, 'specially with two known scum. It's just figuring out the exact links.
Shiny Hydreigon
Doublade
Malakittens
MafiaSSK
Dry-fit
Thor665 (sincerely doubt talah's interaction with Nati was scum-scum)
RachMarie
Saki
Spring Starflower
PeregrineV
Zdenek (somewhat-stale read)
ZZZX
TiphaineDeath
Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Xayzeck
Nachomamma8
Jordan_Downey
Titus
Jon_h61
Divisions here should be fairly obvious, though I haven't done my full load of research. There's a talah iso, jon iso, Titus iso (Fear's was useless), plus VCA, plus referencing that with the notes I had, and thinking what is probable given this.
Basically, I maintain the ease of breaking this wide open, 'specially with two known scum. It's just figuring out the exact links.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:10 pm
(And yes I'm for the moment ignoring Titus's post.
And her request.
Right now, not really bothering.)
I technically have a LOT more free time now than I was planning on having (you'd be surprised how few obligations I currently hold on MS.net, compared to how many I was anticipating me holding at this time), so I might as well spend some of it doing that. Spoilering this stuff, though, when it comes.
And her request.
Right now, not really bothering.)
I technically have a LOT more free time now than I was planning on having (you'd be surprised how few obligations I currently hold on MS.net, compared to how many I was anticipating me holding at this time), so I might as well spend some of it doing that. Spoilering this stuff, though, when it comes.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:38 pm
ok stop right there before you misrep me any more and pull a muscle or whatever the kids are calling it these days.
i'm going to make this concise because lately i've been having a spontaneous-wall-generation problem and to be honest it's really clashing with the image i like to keep of myself.
one.
i asked for bulba to lock the thread because i wanted to have the last word in that "conversation"
two.
this one is about you calling me a "giant fucking troll". i may or may not be abnormally tall for my ethnicity, and i may or may not be addicted to the-next-word-in-that-sequence, but you don't get to throw that troll shit at me. maybe a long time ago, but not here. the fact that i like to post in lowercase while actually trying to enjoy the game doesn't mean i can't play, and doesn't fucking mean i'm scum.
let me say that again because i seem to have to be saying this one a lot as of late:
clearly you're either not actually reading my posts or you are and you're ignoring them completely. which brings me to the next number.
three.
let's do another repeat line:
lolnope pedit mentality wants me to do more
i'll give you this: your "case" on me is so blatantly empty and so willfully ignorant that you (surprise!) managed to make me make myself think you're actually somehow town, because i really don't think scum would be ballsy enough to try and drive a lynch on me when i'm obvtown and obvtown-being-read-correctly. sorry-not-sorry if it makes me sound conceited in my status. but guess what? it's true, i'm town, and no matter how far from your version of optimal town play you think i am, i think you should get your head out of your ass and vote dry-fit if you want to actually start being useful instead of dividing the town and pushing your ridiculous mislynch.
this has been another accidental wall from marquis. nighty-night now~
~marquis
i'm going to make this concise because lately i've been having a spontaneous-wall-generation problem and to be honest it's really clashing with the image i like to keep of myself.
one.
i asked for bulba to lock the thread because i wanted to have the last word in that "conversation"
T S O
and i were having (conversation meaning tso being oh-so-right
-always-right
and me getting rightfully
pissed at him for it). was it in town's best interests? probably not. am i scum? lolnopegoaway.two.
this one is about you calling me a "giant fucking troll". i may or may not be abnormally tall for my ethnicity, and i may or may not be addicted to the-next-word-in-that-sequence, but you don't get to throw that troll shit at me. maybe a long time ago, but not here. the fact that i like to post in lowercase while actually trying to enjoy the game doesn't mean i can't play, and doesn't fucking mean i'm scum.
let me say that again because i seem to have to be saying this one a lot as of late:
the fact that i like to post in lowercase while actually trying to enjoy the game doesn't mean i can't play, and doesn't [expletive] mean i'm scum.
clearly you're either not actually reading my posts or you are and you're ignoring them completely. which brings me to the next number.
three.
let's do another repeat line:
clearly you're either not actually reading my posts or you are and you're ignoring them completely.
so i generally like to be concise. so what? truth time: a lot of people [don't like to / don't even] read walls. that trait in me usually translates to liking to keep things simple and go one at a time. just because some of my posts are short doesn't mean they're "empty vapid content". fucking annoying blatant misrepresentation and by the way, i looked at my iso for myself, and if you're not even going to say anything about the good chunk of totally intentional / potentially accidental big-to-medium-sized posts, i could just be purposefully obnoxious and quote all of them, but i'm pretty sure i should just stop typing right now because you're going to not even read this and say it's a scum response anyway.lolnope pedit mentality wants me to do more
i'll give you this: your "case" on me is so blatantly empty and so willfully ignorant that you (surprise!) managed to make me make myself think you're actually somehow town, because i really don't think scum would be ballsy enough to try and drive a lynch on me when i'm obvtown and obvtown-being-read-correctly. sorry-not-sorry if it makes me sound conceited in my status. but guess what? it's true, i'm town, and no matter how far from your version of optimal town play you think i am, i think you should get your head out of your ass and vote dry-fit if you want to actually start being useful instead of dividing the town and pushing your ridiculous mislynch.
this has been another accidental wall from marquis. nighty-night now~
~marquis
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:44 pm
Fun fact: talah uses the words policy lynch in regard to his slot.In post 720, talah wrote:Can I just clarify you're looking at a *policy lynch* just to quell noise?
And you're voting *me*?
jon and Titus have also done so for the slot.
Thought I'd quote this and just say that it's fairly probable talah commented on it in the scum PT, and that any scum player reading the scum PT thinking about players' reasoning to lynch him would be more likely to be prone to his biases--i.e. assume voting him is a policy lynch.
(SKOT's more likely town from this, though.)
Spoiler: stronger talah interactions
Adjustments:
Shiny Hydreigon
Doublade
Malakittens
MafiaSSK
Dry-fit
Thor665 (sincerely doubt talah's interaction with Nati was scum-scum)
RachMarie
Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Zdenek
Saki
Spring Starflower
PeregrineV
ZZZX
TiphaineDeath
Xayzeck
Nachomamma8
Jordan_Downey
Titus
Jon_h61
Still tweaking it.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:52 pm
Remove the gap between ZX/TD and Xayzeck. ZX/TD are interchangeable in positions right now. I need to do a little more research and iso-work. (Isoing scum's only part of the process; I also need to iso players-of-interest. Which include...TSO, ZX, TD, Dry-fit, Xayzeck, Jordan, Nacho, Spring Starflower, PV, and RachMarie in approximately that importance.)
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:53 pm
Nacho I realize it is a bit of pot and kettle here with the net issues NS and I are having (cable guy will be here Tues to fix the router). but really could we get more from you than just prod dodge?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:11 pm
Spoiler: stronger jon interactions
Looking at Titus's iso makes me think Jordan's scum, too.
Oh, yeah. PV's town.In post 1534, Titus wrote:This fence is so far up your ass I can see it coming out your mouth. I amnot surprised you were "convinced" to vote me.In post 1514, PeregrineV wrote:Not feeling the Aegor or Dry-fit hate at the moment. No love either, so will lynch to avoid wasted day, but let's try a flashwagon on a replacement.
Vote: Jon_h61
Shiny Hydreigon
Doublade
Malakittens
MafiaSSK
Dry-fit
Sharpest-knife-on-tree/Zdnek
Zdenek/SKOT
PeregrineV
Thor665
RachMarie
Saki
Spring Starflower
ZZZX/TD
TiphaineDeath/ZX
Xayzeck
Nachomamma8
Jordan_Downey
Titus
Jon_h61
Something like this. I technically bumped Thor/Rach down, but for Thor it's just not being as town, and for Rach it's similar with a side of paranoia-need-to-make-sure. (I'm also not sure whether Dry-fit deserves a position that high, though I
think
he does.)