Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[mykonian]

vote anatole

offer still stands, TSO.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Not particulary. You could try to understand farsides case once more. It's not hard.

TSO softclaims a guilty of sorts on SSK, anatole's buddy. Anatole hops on, it's SSK after all, you let him go.
Then, csareo comes in and casts doubt on TSO's claim. It doesn't look good. Anatole hops off, "csareo is making sense".
Then, when town figures out they do want to follow TSO, anatole knows he needs to be back in his good looking early bussing spot: he's on again.

That unvote is opportunistic scum play. That's where you catch anatole, not in the hundreds of posts asking questions and setting things up. Like I complained earlier on, anatole has a defensive playstyle this game. It aims to explain every action they do, doesn't focus on outplaying scum, finding them. This was a point where there's an action he tries to explain, but does it wishy washy: he stepped out. His "csareo was kind of making good points", but him not joining him in voting TSO, for example, is a weak play that he's trying to avoid here when we pushed him on it, he's got only weak excuses. This is the point where he shows his intentions, this was the crack in his armor.

If your case is so sound why are you adding so much flourish to your weak case? What happened to just the facts?

when town figures out they do want to follow TSO, anatole knows he needs to be back in his good looking early bussing spot: he's on again

please quote the obvious bus

[T S O]

catching up

[farside22]

The number of time Anatole says a weak case and not making a case on anyone today should be noted by all

[Anatole Kuragin]

why? I'm not purporting to have a decent case on anyone and will probably just sheep tso cause there's no chance in hell he's getting lynched now or myko because he's unnaturally set on lynching me

that doesn't automatically make any case against me good

[xRECKONERx]

Okay I agree with Farside's case on Reck but still don't get her case on AK.

What case? What about it, specifically, makes sense to you?

[Flubbernugget]

Farside your main case on AK is that he's scumreading people he's not voting for, right?

That was in regards to reck.

Pretty much opportunistic today for whom he'd vote for. No new reason why he's voting csa.
Day 2 was him agreeing with csa, now calling csa scum again, reasons are because?
In short his reads/reasoning is not fluid and shows no thought process to whom is scum.
If you want links to his games where he shows forward thinking, let me know.

So the italicized is directed as to what AK has done and has nothing to do with Reck. So I made a whoopsie and have no idea if Farside even has a case on Reck now.

But Reck is still scum.

[farside22]

Farside your main case on AK is that he's scumreading people he's not voting for, right?

That was in regards to reck.

Pretty much opportunistic today for whom he'd vote for. No new reason why he's voting csa.
Day 2 was him agreeing with csa, now calling csa scum again, reasons are because?
In short his reads/reasoning is not fluid and shows no thought process to whom is scum.
If you want links to his games where he shows forward thinking, let me know.

So the italicized is directed as to what AK has done and has nothing to do with Reck. So I made a whoopsie and have no idea if Farside even has a case on Reck now.

But Reck is still scum.

case on reck

[xRECKONERx]

If farside didn't have a case, what are the reasons I'm scum, Flubber?

[xRECKONERx]

Defends SSK.
Fluffs off his lurking as null but if actual meta involved reason why did he not show him as scum.

Later you have the myko/vezo/SSK connection and reck saying he'd vote SSK but votes vezo after all that, even with a town read in vezo.

I never defended SSK, actually.

Using incorrect buzzwords to describe my posts really just makes you look disingenuous. It wasn't "fluff", it was actual, legitimate questioning.

I'm really trying to understand this line: "if actual meta involved reason why did he not show him as scum" but I can't. Can you please slow down and try to explain this in a coherent manner? Because AFAIK, I never claimed I had scum meta on SSK, which is what this sounds like.

I've already clarified my desire to vote vezok over SSK here:

I didn't state I would rather vote SSK over vezok, though, not in the same context.

EARLIER, when Matt was just throwing out a blanket reads list (not connecting the reads), I said I'd rather lynch SSK first out of myko/SSK/vezok.

LATER, when I read Matt pointed out the specific link from vezok->SSK, I changed my mind. I actually probably wouldn't have lynched SSK yesterday without the claims, because I saw SSK's scumminess as a direct correlation to vezok's scumminess.

So you're still holding to the same case while ignoring responses I've made.

[xRECKONERx]

@reck, that's bullshit and you know it. Last thing I am and ever will be, is under the radar. That's just badly sheeping flubber's vote.

I didn't follow him onto you, nor did I make a judgment call one way or the other. Given our history, I find it quite odd that you haven't been at my throat this game, since that's pretty much what I expect from you.

[xRECKONERx]

What is your read on me, myko?

[farside22]

Not holding onto the case reck.
Just pointed out I made a case.

[xRECKONERx]

So you no longer think I'm scum?

[T S O]

I like Reck's stuff around #1790 - #1800.

[farside22]

So you no longer think I'm scum?

Not sold your town, but your counter argument was valid in my view.
The few things still bug me is the vote on vezo and it seems you don't interact with Ana, but that one day and then it's like you two avoid each other.....almost.

[mykonian]

What is your read on me, myko?

Uncomfortable. Playstyle wise you seem town. I don't like your lategame moves, I don't think they are correct. That starts with vezok and although your explanation sounds town, there's still the objective fact that the vote was there. I don't like the csareo vote, I don't like you sheeping flubbers vote on a shit reason. I think you could have bussed SSK though it was late and I would have had scum earlier on a ssk bus.

But then, your scumplay characterizes itself by over the top play and defensiveness, and some sort of overconfidence. This game has none of that. So lets stick with bad town. (though by all means improve and vote anatole like you should)

Also, it's your history, not mine But lets keep that for postgame, I'm avoiding that on purpose. This game has seen enough stupidity already.

[T S O]

myko, I'll talk to you more once I catch up about that.

[T S O]

kinda townreading myko. I'm not really an authority on reck's scum game. It's possible this is it, I guess.

[T S O]

I still feel that there's weird pushes for people to get off Csareo for no real reason and I still feel the controlled resistance around him makes him likely scum.

[mykonian]

myko, I'll talk to you more once I catch up about that.

Probably going to be over the course of the weekend then, you don't have to rush for it today.

[xRECKONERx]

I still feel that there's weird pushes for people to get off Csareo for no real reason and I still feel the controlled resistance around him makes him likely scum.

yuuuuuup

[Flubbernugget]

If farside didn't have a case, what are the reasons I'm scum, Flubber?

I don't like how defensive you've been the whole game. It overwhelms your scumhunting. Can you either summarize for or point me in the right direction to figure out your case on Farside?

What kind of read do you have on me right now?

[xRECKONERx]

Why is defensiveness a scumtell instead of a towntell?

Does it matter that my meta as either alignment is to be overly defensive?

My main push on farside came from posts 637 all the way through post 714, where I do a poor job of summarizing everything and you should probably just read the whole sequence for context. Furthermore, she keeps talking PAST me and isn't addressing me because she's uninterested in having a conversation about me, she just wants to push me as a mislynch. She hasn't done much to change my read on her but I'm not getting any traction on her.

[Flubbernugget]

I don't see enough scumhunt accommodating the defensiveness. The defense starts feeling like fluff after a while.

I admittedly don't remember anything about your meta when I skimmed through it other than the suck my dick wall. But even then having to point to your meta as a defense seems like a last resort. And weren't you claiming your meta to be over inflammatory before as opposed to defensive?

Looking into what you've given me for the Farside case.