Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)
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And speaking of RC: dude, you might be better at reading than me - IDK, don't have the data, but if you are - there's more to the game than reading. You also need to be able to convince people that you're right, and you need some work in that department. Almost is more diplomatic than me and apologized, but IMO his remark was spot on. Your play style helps you as scum, but is a hindrance as town. You yell at people and call them idiots when they disagree with you. Maybe you can bully some of the teenagers that way, but it's not working on me. Not only doesn't it sway me toward your position, it actually moves me against your position. You always read scummy to me. I've learned that that's your playstyle, and so not to push you D1 or D2 every game (that's where it helps you as scum). But, there's no way I'm ever gonna sheep your reads. Welp that's RC doesn't cut it. I understand that you might want to keep your reasoning to yourself. We play with the same people over and over, and if you alert them to their tells, they'll adapt. BUT...if you want people to believe you without providing reasoning, you need a much different interpersonal approach.
AND...if you hadn't wasted your govern on FA (only to scum read her later in phase), you could have stopped the Ranger lynch anyway, and BS presumably would have been lynched.
AND...you hammered yourself. Davesaz wasn't convinced. So quit blaming everyone but yourself.
AND I'll add...what's worse...scum reading someone who's town, or hammering someone who you town read?- Persivul
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No one said I played perfectly, but at least my misplays are discrete rather than systemic issues with the way I play.
And one more thing...town won! Amazing that instead of enjoying that you have to criticize people for not playing perfectly.
Town didn't win the game; scum cross killed themselves to death.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Persivul
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↑ RadiantCowbells wrote:Instead, I see it as people are what they are and it's my responsibility to read them.
You scum read FA and she was town.
You scum read me and I was town.
You have a lot of work to do.- RadiantCowbells
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I will kill you with my bare hands.....
If you ever ever again screamed that you can read me , I will show this game to them!
VOTE: RC
ok whatever! we nearly lost RC , Persival , Almost
I made a town list for you ... and you ignored me?! whYYYYY
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When I said BS is town for me?! I said BS is telling the truth about bus driving ...False tears bring pain to those around you
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"Frozen Like Your Heart." -Ginngie- Persivul
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I'd also like to comment on Survivors again.
What's the difference in motivations between a Survivor and a single-member mafia like Blackstar?
Not much:
- both need to survive to the end to win
- neither has a partner, so no associative tells
- scum has a NK and so is motivated to determine roles, but roles came out pretty early so that wasn't a factor
A Survivor lynch is a good lynch. Town lynched correctly 3 times out of 4. There was only 1 mislynch.
Really this should be a town celebration, rather than finger pointing because it wasn't a perfect win.- RadiantCowbells
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Yes. Explicitly so. I was town, no? So of course this was my standard town game. Why would it have been anything else? I tried to break the game multiple times: off of cards, off of picks, off of roles, and I still scumhunted beyond that. That's my town game to the corePersivul wrote:Would you consider this your standard town game?
Confidence is situational. I had an incredibly-confident D1. My confidence was lessened by the string of things not quite being what I expected. For instance, I had an incriminating result on BlackStar, but for the life of me, I couldn't figure out WHY he as scum would let me live if he knew it was going to be a 1v1 that by all rights he should have lost.I compared it to the last Blitz we were in and you were more confident with your reads and aggressive in that one.Quite the RANGE.Game History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells
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