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In post 1847, Salamence20 wrote:

In post 1844, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1841, Salamence20 wrote:I said yesterday I feel as if Farkran KNOWS im town.

Thats really the only way I can see him hard tr’ing like he has

It looks like he’s trying to set you up as his buddy once he flips.

He also had pops as town until she voted farkran

In post 1849, Venus and Mars wrote: I don’t generally go out on a limb for anyone wrongly hardscum reading me, unless I have a hard inno on them or something. Fmpov, if I think someone is wrongly pushing me, I may not outright sr them for it but hard defending them for it, wouldn’t be the first of my concerns, unless of course I was in no real danger of being wagoned, which you clearly are.

In post 1507, Bitmap wrote:I just realized pops left out Farkran out of her reads list.

In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:

Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same

conclusions

of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.

In post 1509, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: Farkran

In post 1511, Farkran wrote:Holy shit pops is scum.

In post 1518, Farkran wrote:

In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:

Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same

conclusions

of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.

This does not make sense... v&m did not reach the same conclusions of other players, they're evidently being tunneled and reading others out of consensus bias. No way you would not notice that. Me and v&m is pretty clearly TvT from your pov.

Salamence, i think he's town but refuses to even try not taking something at face value, he

absolutely

needs to be removed before lylo because scum are never going to kill him. Same about V&M.

Kerset is still town and disaligned from pops, who is probably pocketing him then? Does it make sense for alchemist not to realize that? @alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?

Bitmap... pops has been SRing him the whole game but does not want to commit into voting him. Bitmap has been consistently pointing out scumtells from pops (even when there weren't any) so i think they're disaligned and that makes bitmap town?

Suji is probably independently town

Chemist might be associated to pops, too little content to determine.

Gamma, same as chemist, but i would guess pops' slight SR of her might be either distancing or maintaining a window of opportunity to lynch her later if he's town.

TL... is pretty much the same as bitmap in this scenario? Would TL hard-townread pops if they were scum together? I think not, i wouldn't expect that from scum!TL.

Severa... is town if scum!pops.

That leaves me with Evenstar, who makes sense in bussing position against pops when she's wagoned... and possibly {gamma, chemist}.

VOTE: pops

In post 1848, Farkran wrote:

In post 1841, Salamence20 wrote:I said yesterday I feel as if Farkran KNOWS im town.

Thats really the only way I can see him hard tr’ing like he has

This kind of push usually comes from town, for instance. He is consistent about his push on me, and it matches his profile of superficiality that i've been deducing ever since the beginning of this game. I don't KNOW he is town, i just assume he is.

I also haven't been defending him from any attack - rather, i've been asking about the motives behind votes against him (only kerset so far), and it was not so much because the vote was set on salamence specifically but because kerset refused to take a stance on the severa vs pops situation, which is kinda bad coming from the town!kerset i know. I would have thought he'd either maintain his death tunnel on severa, or turn against pops.

In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

In post 1856, Kerset wrote:Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

In post 1859, Salamence20 wrote:

In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

In post 1858, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Pops was the lead wagon for a thousand, Alex?

In post 1859, Salamence20 wrote:

In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

In post 1655, Salamence20 wrote:I think Farkran is scum, Alchemist is scum with him, and then Chemist/Bitmap/TL/Kerset for wild cards.

Theres no way Alch/Chem is TT, I dont think The HOOD(tm) is all town.

In post 1860, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1856, Kerset wrote:Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

I’m finding it strange how he confiscums Pops yet insists on tr others on his wagon and now, he’s expressing bewilderment on you for logically being suspicious of those on his wagon, when you’re tr him - looks like.

You disagree with this?

In post 1862, Farkran wrote:

In post 1858, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Pops was the lead wagon for a thousand, Alex?

In post 1859, Salamence20 wrote:

In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.

You did. Remember the Venus vote too?

I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.

Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”

I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.

Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.

So, uh, V&M are now saying that i voted pops but not salamence because pops was the lead wagon. I assume this means i have been selective about who i omgussed, to maximize my chances to deflect the wagon on me onto someone who was being generally scumread.

Salamence instead accuses me that i am a compulsive omgusser because i voted V&M after they voted me.

Lol. If you haven't realized yet, that's how superficial you are being with your read on me. You are contradicting yourselves even without my intervention.

I strongly suggest that you drop your tunnel and go reread our exchanges with a cold mind

In post 1866, Kerset wrote:

In post 1860, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1856, Kerset wrote:Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

I’m finding it strange how he confiscums Pops yet insists on tr others on his wagon and now, he’s expressing bewilderment on you for logically being suspicious of those on his wagon, when you’re tr him - looks like.

You disagree with this?

I just disagree with your methods. You won't get valuable explanation by digging in every sentence, at this point you are rather trying to discredit him.

In post 1868, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1866, Kerset wrote:

In post 1860, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1856, Kerset wrote:Mars where are you about Fark rn? You seems to questions him more then deeply. Is it because you are still very uncertain about his slot or wish to show us something?

I’m finding it strange how he confiscums Pops yet insists on tr others on his wagon and now, he’s expressing bewilderment on you for logically being suspicious of those on his wagon, when you’re tr him - looks like.

You disagree with this?

I just disagree with your methods. You won't get valuable explanation by digging in every sentence, at this point you are rather trying to discredit him.

I’m clearly not. I’m obviously not sure of my vote - which is on him - and trying to get clarification on it. I thought that should be overwhelmingly obvious.

In post 1871, Venus and Mars wrote:I want to sort him. I could just leave my vote on him and say nothing, couldn’t I? But I require answers which I’m not really getting for one reason or another.

In post 1873, Kerset wrote:Mars you are trying to get clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification of clarification.