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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:58 pm
by Alonzo
He's pressing your buttons to get you to react, just keep reading, your dangerous to scum when you are reading and analysing, you're a useful idiot when you react to every post that shades you.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:02 pm
by Noraa
hm alright I'll keep that in mind. I changed my mind btw. I'll get my read in tmrw. tmrw I have a test and that's y imma just hang around for a hot ten ish minutes and then be off. After class ends tmrw, I'll have some time after tutoring to get my whole read together

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:03 pm
by Noraa
Btw Alonzo, I didn't realize that but yes ur explanation makes sense. I realized it immediately with BM bc he doesn't even try to hide the provoking but golden boy hides it well.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:17 pm
by Alonzo
In post 1852, Noraa wrote:Btw Alonzo, I didn't realize that but yes ur explanation makes sense. I realized it immediately with BM bc he doesn't even try to hide the provoking but golden boy hides it well.
Well there's gonna be ten people here calling you out over the next day or so, they can't all be scum so you need to read good so you can see the wood from the trees.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:45 pm
by Bunno
Hmm...maybe it wasn't a good idea to sign up for this. I thought I could manage by dedicating 30 to 60 minutes each 36 hours to this game, but there's...always so much going on in the thread

I don't think I can maintain my old levels of presence, mafia can't be that big priority in my life anymore...

I'll try to make this the last night I'm putting more than one hour here.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:46 pm
by Noraa
In post 1853, Alonzo wrote:
In post 1852, Noraa wrote:Btw Alonzo, I didn't realize that but yes ur explanation makes sense. I realized it immediately with BM bc he doesn't even try to hide the provoking but golden boy hides it well.
Well there's gonna be ten people here calling you out over the next day or so, they can't all be scum so you need to read good so you can see the wood from the trees.
gotchu

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:50 pm
by Bunno
Dunno if it's possible, but if you could rebuild your image of me to a very chill-loving casual player rather than the tryhard I was being up to now, maybe we could avoid future misunderstandings.

I thought things would go fairly smooth after I did some casing on Taylor, but Noraa keeps badposting, Shelly doesn't seem to find her own position in the game, and everyone is trying to do their own thing so far. Trying to keep people/wagons on focus requires camping this thread too much. Maybe it's time I conceive more to the fact I won't be able get my preferencial elims in this playstyle...?

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:54 pm
by Bunno
In post 1691, Menalque wrote:bunno where the fuck are you
sleep deprived

let's lower our expectations...I can't camp thread like the old days anymore...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:58 pm
by Bunno
I can understand the motivation for Mena's annoyment but it seems like it went from 0 to 100 so quick...

It's something kinda weird to do as scum though save for a few cases. I don't know what to think about it because it's still confusing that it apparently exploded right away, no clear build-ups.

Mena did you have a bad day by any chance?

I've other ideas as well but I'll save them.

I'm not completely rejecting the idea of voting shelly to end the day here, although I'll mention that in a policy elim outside of Taylor, I may be slightly more interested in Noraa than shelly at the moment. But just maybe.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:00 pm
by shellyc
holy fuck why is that every time I wake up there are 16 new pages

I seriously cant if this keeps up

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:04 pm
by Bunno
In post 1505, Tayl0r Swift wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=84280

here is a towngame where i had incredibly low content and was scumread for it

in my scumgame i had decent content and that is not why the scumteam fell apart.

your meta argument is shit and based on cherrypicking

why are you making accusations and gaslighting me rather than trying to engage me and figure out the truth
This doesn't really change my mind that much, one example of why (there's more but I'm gonna stick to this one here), is ChibiBear in Mini 2039: PicketyPickety.

She would later in endgame admit herself that our meta analysis on her was right, and she was playing very similar to her most recent town game which she hadn't a lot of content (what was different than her usual scum meta of contributing more), but ChibiBear was still mafia, we suspected her, but we let her out of the elimination because of flimsy "meta".

I only talked about meta for people that like it, but as an individual I'm focusing more on what you have posted here regardless of your past behavior.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:08 pm
by Bunno
In post 1760, Alonzo wrote:Some of noraas posts are just incindiery and there's too many of them for this not to feel like a tactic of some sort
Not a bad take...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:10 pm
by Bunno
In post 1765, Noraa wrote:
I don't know which one it is and Shelly was my first scum partner so i will be giving her the benefit of the doubt and assume her to be the town half
Noraa makes less sense to me by every minute it passes...

I would genuinely be getting interested in discussing eliminating noraa today or in the near future if this keeps up

I don't particularly feel she's scum but her posts doesn't seem to have any town logic I can understand on it.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:10 pm
by Bunno
In post 1771, Menalque wrote:VOTE: noraa
mood...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:13 pm
by Bunno
In post 1789, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
but its ok because you wont lunch me due to my role.
this should be held accountable and if you're lying you should be punished either way.

Anything other than a confirmable town role after this declaration is unnaceptable. If it's a town VT or town weak PR I would call this bad play territory.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:17 pm
by Bunno
Taylor doesn't even pick someone she "believes" to be scum

She has literally no scumlean/pushes on a 75 page game

Noraa is bad but at the same time oh my god, are we really letting that fly?

In my view Noraa has unreasonably emotional reads rather than objective ones, but Taylor...not even that.

Ok though...I'll try not to care too much about this game.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:20 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 1865, Bunno wrote:Taylor doesn't even pick someone she "believes" to be scum

She has literally no scumlean/pushes on a 75 page game

Noraa is bad but at the same time oh my god, are we really letting that fly?

In my view Noraa has unreasonably emotional reads rather than objective ones, but Taylor...not even that.

Ok though...I'll try not to care too much about this game.
every time you post im gonna make my reads worse.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:20 pm
by Bunno
In post 1803, Tayl0r Swift wrote:sorry i had to do that for the memes.

but seriously

VOTE: teacher
I'm the one to ask you

seriously?

are you going to pretend this is a genuine read from you rather than you just joining the hottest wagon?

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:21 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 1867, Bunno wrote:
In post 1803, Tayl0r Swift wrote:sorry i had to do that for the memes.

but seriously

VOTE: teacher
I'm the one to ask you

seriously?

are you going to pretend this is a genuine read from you rather than you just joining the hottest wagon?
no im going to pretend its me joining the hottest wagon rather than a genuine read

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:23 pm
by Bunno
Teacher feels like a very random spontaneous wagon

Mena has been talking about "anyone but teacher", and says Taylor is sus, but never joins Taylor wagon.

Why is this game so messed up? It's not even about me compromissing anymore, Mena it's you that doesn't want to compromisse on Taylor at all.

If you/TGP which if I remember correctly sus Taylor do come with us on her wagon, we may have a shoot on getting someone other than teacher. I don't really feel any good reason for that random teacher wagon.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:24 pm
by Bunno
In post 1868, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1867, Bunno wrote:
In post 1803, Tayl0r Swift wrote:sorry i had to do that for the memes.

but seriously

VOTE: teacher
I'm the one to ask you

seriously?

are you going to pretend this is a genuine read from you rather than you just joining the hottest wagon?
no im going to pretend its me joining the hottest wagon rather than a genuine read
sarcasm and sassy are fun sometimes but unhappily that's all you seem to be...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:32 pm
by Bunno
Let's stop wasting time

I'm truly on the camp of "ok, anyone but random teacher wagon" so let's organize this because random elims doesn't seem fun

We've Taylor with 3 votes at the moment:

Taylor (3) - Bunno, Shelly, Teacher

Both Mena and TGP said they thought Taylor was sus, if you guys move on to her it's going to get on L-2. We can talk to Alonzo/Noraa on voting Taylor, getting to L-1, claim, etc. L-1 is our goal for now and it's not super hard to get.

Datisi/Bob doesn't seem likely to vote Taylor in my opinion.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:35 pm
by Bunno
Noraa if you don't stop vanity voting BM or some other selfish wagon I'll keep voting you for the rest of the game and the blame is gonna be on you.

BM/Ico clearly isn't the elimination today by this point and we need any potential townies to use their vote to choose the more likely mafia option of what we've today. If Taylor was sitting on only one vote right now, I would do the same.

I was even thinking about voting shelly while catching up, but the wagon now seems to have dismantled/is harder to get through than Taylor. (I also enjoy Taylor wagon more either way...)

Anyhow, use your vote efficiently. Don't be a vote waster for selfish reasons.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:35 pm
by Bunno
@Alonzo @Ico

Between Taylor vs Teacher, where are you leaning to vote at the moment?

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:39 pm
by Bunno
I"m done for tonight.

See you.

If wagons completely change again beyond my predictions I'll compromisse by the way.

I'm not compromissing on teacher though, it seems 100% a random elimination.