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In post 1702, Morning Mage wrote:i'm fine with elimming within the claimed mason faction. but gamma has most votes and works for me today too.

VOTE: gamma

oh

In post 1703, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Regardless of your actual reads it'd be better to act convinced the mason faction is pro-town so scum won't just not shoot there cus they'll assume we'll paranoia lynch there eventually.

this is a good take

In post 1712, Tayl0r Swift wrote:why is no one concerned that no real counterwagon has formed to gamma? if the best ally gamma has is me saying "theres something questionable there but i dunno about a 10-person wagon" then where are the scumbuddies and why arent they doing anything to help?

also why does the gamma wagon, as weak as it seems to be, have such longevity? this gamestate doesnt make sense to me if gamma is scum. here i go defending gamma. i guess i must be scum too. oops.

If Gamma is scum I do expect more people to pull out the "Wtf Gamma always gets wagoned d1, this is how he always plays, this always happens rararararara" card

To be fair I'm pulling that and DDL/Tayl0r/A50 also are

but it doesn't seem to be working lol

In post 1716, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1713, NorwegianboyEE wrote:To be fair, i would gladly switch to Ban Hydras if it became apparent interest in eliminating Gamma was dying.

thats also a dumb wagon.

"oooh i dont like hydrae, therefore this hydra must be scum!!!"
"theyre posting too much!"
"they posted about language policing rather than whos scum this one time!"
"shut up loudmouth"

i feel like im decent at sorting the people in that hydra, and i feel like i can sort them as town here.

I could see Ban Hydras being scum by pure coincidence. But i haven't tried to sort them, so i like your plan of actually trying to read them first better actually

~Morning

In post 738, April Ludgate wrote:I...am Overkill.

This is news to me

In post 1850, Morning Mage wrote:I could see Ban Hydras being scum by pure coincidence. But i haven't tried to sort them, so i like your plan of actually trying to read them first better actually

You should be sorting GuiltyLion in our hydra, he's been controlling himself but he's fairly obvtown if you look at his content.

~Buttercup

In post 1783, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1772, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1759, schadd_ wrote:

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• 1615: good

ban hydras is town

i think it's a modspew town

I agree on the read, but I have no idea what the quote has to do with it

In post 1847, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Actually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this

yeah that felt a bit icky.

In post 1709, Gamma Emerald wrote:what Taylor said I guess. Also I read back a couple posts in the MM ISO to see if they'd expressed more about the claim and I think there's something I read past without responding to that I should have.

Eh, yeah I'm still happy flipping you.

In post 1713, NorwegianboyEE wrote:To be fair, i would gladly switch to Ban Hydras if it became apparent interest in eliminating Gamma was dying.

Norweg is my top townie today.

Someone asked my top 3 town and scumreads.

I'm gonna go:

Town: Norwegianboy, Bell, Titus

Scum: Gamma Emerald, Menalque, Taylor Swift

In post 1712, Tayl0r Swift wrote:why is no one concerned that no real counterwagon has formed to gamma? if the best ally gamma has is me saying "theres something questionable there but i dunno about a 10-person wagon" then where are the scumbuddies and why arent they doing anything to help?

I don't think this is true. There's a pretty healthy wagon on ban hydra.

In post 1796, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 659, superbowl9 wrote:PSA pickaxe pete has been playing terribly

What makes you say this? I don't think he's posted enough for this to make sense.

I forget tbh but I still don't like how he's playing

In post 1853, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1783, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1772, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1759, schadd_ wrote:

mod notes

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• Christøpher has requested replacement
  
• 1615: good

ban hydras is town

i think it's a modspew town

I agree on the read, but I have no idea what the quote has to do with it

In post 1847, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Actually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this

yeah that felt a bit icky.

the Mod having a personal view on racism is "interfering with the game"? I don't think so.

I do think the whole episode makes the Ban Hydras slot look worse from AI perspective though.

In post 1852, Ban Hydras wrote:You should be sorting GuiltyLion in our hydra

Who??? Is Flopz GL???

In post 1807, Morning Mage wrote:

In post 1802, Menalque wrote:

In post 1795, Morning Mage wrote:town
1. Nero Cain
2. Mastina
3. honestly probably jjh cause in addition to me thinking he's town, ive heard his scum play is really different

Not me?

o(╥﹏╥)o

Be honest, are you scum morning?

Was that the hidden metric u were using?

Why should I townread you, Mena? (´･ω･`)

I noted that you were less present and solvey than I was used to but that was like only for the first 24 hours -- pretty sure I saw a big ol readslist somewhere while I was reading.

i'm aware that you have a good scumgame and i haven't seen it yet. we need to get some mindmelding going before we form our townbloc. I just haven't felt the Gamma wagon click for me yet, he reminds me heavily of my previous games w/ him. A50 mentioned earlier that Gamma hasn't played to his scum meta or done his scum tell or whatever and DDL also shared the sentiment that he isn't any different from usual. Your response was to add them to the scumbin.

~Morning

N-no. I have, like, a whole bunch of ways to sort you and stuff!

Ehhh idk, I /probably/ wouldn’t be quite so obvscummy to draw attention to myself at the start of the game? But meh. I think I’m being fairly solvey but yeah, I don’t think there are great reasons to TR me yet. What do you think that means in relation to the people who are townreading me (like mastina, for instance)?

Also, yeah, don’t expect Full Mena(tm) this game — I’ve started a master’s and there have been some developments in my personal life since we last played and those are eating fairly significantly into my game budget. Plus I just played a scumgame and that generally leaves me a little burned out

What do you think about my point of gamma’s scumread on me not being really based on anything at all despite him presenting it as one of his more substantial reads? Do you think town!gamma really sees me shitposting about getting revenge for a game that happened well over a year ago (my second scumgame on site) and thinks that it’s a solid indicator of scum!me that I’m bragging about getting to misguillotine him now? Personally I think that’s significantly less competent than what I’d expect from gamma, and that divergence between what I think he would believe if he was being genuine and actually solving and engaging with posts vs what he’s saying he believes is why I think he’s scum.

Actually, untrue on the final two points — I called ddl out as possible scum very early on, and I’m townresding A50 and have been for a while

In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Cya

In post 1725, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think the best one I can read in it is Hop, and his posting is relatively inoffensive. However I think they're still a good vote because of what I've seen from the other two.

Has Flopz even posted yet..?

In post 1730, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1727, Menalque wrote:

In post 1725, Gamma Emerald wrote:Menalque is in the scumread only section.

do tell gamma, why am I scum

Your thing about "finally getting to vote me out" after Pokemon Ruby is stinky garbage, and does not come from a town perspective at all. You seem like scum who got excited at the prospect of getting revenge.

If Mena was actually motivated by something like revenge, he could just be town that is willing you to be scum, too. It's not necessarily a scum only perspective.

that being said, I am tempted to conclude that your read on Mena is coming from a genuine place, making you town

pedit: Which will certainly be interesting when discussing this with my partner. Do you think both Mena Gamma can be scum, or is it just one of them, Mage?

~Morning

In post 1854, Morning Mage wrote:Scum: Gamma Emerald, Menalque, Taylor Swift

I assume these are mage’s reads, yes?

In post 1803, Nero Cain wrote:The wagon speed does bother me a bit though

BUT DAE THINK GAMMA TOWN DOE!?!<

In post 1825, Bell wrote:Wait actually never mind.
Maybe she just knows gamma is town.

Mena’s Interpretation of that is whack.

Hm?

In post 1853, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1783, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1772, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1759, schadd_ wrote:

mod notes

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• Christøpher has requested replacement
  
• 1615: good

ban hydras is town

i think it's a modspew town

I agree on the read, but I have no idea what the quote has to do with it

In post 1847, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Actually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this

yeah that felt a bit icky.

Why have you edited this in to Almo's post?

~Buttercup

In post 755, PlusJOYED wrote:

In post 746, TheGoldenParadox wrote:did you.. see the posts i linked?

yes
did you see my post?
I already have a feeling I"m gonna tunnel you at some point
peddit: agree with morning. I'm null on mastina for now tho

In post 756, PlusJOYED wrote:oh oops
UNVOTE:

I've seen it posited in the past this failure to match your vote to your opinion is a scum tendency and from my own experience I think that's true

In post 1853, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1783, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1772, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 1759, schadd_ wrote:

mod notes

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• Christøpher has requested replacement
  
• 1615: good

ban hydras is town

i think it's a modspew town

I agree on the read, but I have no idea what the quote has to do with it

In post 1847, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Actually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this

yeah that felt a bit icky.

How is the post the mod commented on there related to the game at all? I get why the mod commenting on posts is a problem, but that post in particular isn't really gameplay-related, is it?

~Morning

Oh my god not this garbage.

In post 1842, NorwegianboyEE wrote:if Gamma isn't happening i'd vote there.

No, no, gamma is still happening, put your vote back please

I mean, players are still allowed to use the L word and Schadd is a self described SJW. I think he was just saying that 1615 was "good" b/c it mirrors his own personal thoughts although I do understand how it can be seen as "mod interference"

he prob shouldn't have done it though.

Okay that was actually edited in, I thought I was gonna have another game where someone tried to make reading into putting additional formatting into quoted posts a

In post 1850, Morning Mage wrote:

In post 1702, Morning Mage wrote:i'm fine with elimming within the claimed mason faction. but gamma has most votes and works for me today too.

VOTE: gamma

oh

In post 1703, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Regardless of your actual reads it'd be better to act convinced the mason faction is pro-town so scum won't just not shoot there cus they'll assume we'll paranoia lynch there eventually.

this is a good take

hmm, i actually like Norweg for town, but don't agree with his take above at all. Let's discuss privately and come to a collective view lol.

In post 1850, Morning Mage wrote:

In post 1716, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1713, NorwegianboyEE wrote:To be fair, i would gladly switch to Ban Hydras if it became apparent interest in eliminating Gamma was dying.

thats also a dumb wagon.

"oooh i dont like hydrae, therefore this hydra must be scum!!!"
"theyre posting too much!"
"they posted about language policing rather than whos scum this one time!"
"shut up loudmouth"

i feel like im decent at sorting the people in that hydra, and i feel like i can sort them as town here.

I could see Ban Hydras being scum by pure coincidence. But i haven't tried to sort them, so i like your plan of actually trying to read them first better actually

~Morning

I guess I can see the argument they are LHF and so we shouldn't worry about them today. Not coincidence though surely? I didnt have a view on the post itself, but the reaction afterwards wasn't great. The defence of "please don't think we used racial sensitivities as a tactic to survive longer as scum" felt a bit OTT if the slot was town. Likewise, the Mod endorsing the post isn't objectionable, but it does make the slot look worse that the Mod felt the need to independently endorse them. And the reaction to that endorsement also doesn't look great. Also, for a hydra slot, they've gone relatively unnoticed on Day 1, which might indicate they have some allies.

In post 1815, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Mena When I say you're minimizing me, I mean that you're attempting to reduce things down to something they're not. You're not my only scumread/person in that bracket, and I never said as much. You trying to suggest that is trying to make it look like I've done less than I have.

Okay, link me to where you’ve elaborated more on who else is in there then or explain the rest of your scumreads now