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MURDERCAT [5]

outworldER xRECKONERx alisae sircakez thegoldenparadox

Battle Mage [5]

blitzo flea the magician gamma emerald DrippingGoofball titus

blitzo [2]

pookythemagicalbear battle mage

titus [1]

haschel cedricson

DrippingGoofball [1]

taly

sircakez [1]

bell

no elim [1]

murdercat

Not Voting [1]

akarin

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

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Hey all, getting caught up now. I see from the votecount people are no longer on Titus. Is that because people no longer think she's scum or are the other two wagons significantly better?

Obvs I'm about to draw my own conclusion but it'd be cool to have an answer to that by the time I get caught up.

In post 1851, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Hey all, getting caught up now. I see from the votecount people are no longer on Titus. Is that because people no longer think she's scum or are the other two wagons significantly better?

Obvs I'm about to draw my own conclusion but it'd be cool to have an answer to that by the time I get caught up.

No one else sees it

Only up to 1592 but Battle Mage makes an excellent point about MC's attack not being logical at all. Really curious to see how this explodes into four more BM votes.

FWIW I'm not going to selfvote at deadline because I still think no elim is better

Flea wrote:HC, Blitzo, and TGP are the bottom 3 with <50 posts each.

If I ever play a game and have more than 50 posts on day one when only four IRL days have elapsed, I give everyone in this thread permission to kick me in the groin should they ever encounter me outside the forums.

In post 1851, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Hey all, getting caught up now. I see from the votecount people are no longer on Titus. Is that because people no longer think she's scum or are the other two wagons significantly better?

Obvs I'm about to draw my own conclusion but it'd be cool to have an answer to that by the time I get caught up.

She went V/LA so the pressure felt pretty useless and I'm not super confident she's scum so I moved my vote.

Flea just spent a lot of time and energy in 1619 making a post that can basically be summarized as "In conclusion MC is a land of contrasts." Not a fan.

I see some posts are talking about meta. I plan on ignoring those posts.

In post 1818, Titus wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage

Oh no. You of all people do not get to just drop a vote with no reasoning and walk away. Why Battle Mage over the other wagons? Does the case against Murdercat make sense?

Okay. BM-wagon = Bad, Murdercat-wagon = Good, Titus and Flea also good candidates for scum.

In post 1834, Gamma Emerald wrote:Taly your Ali+BM ISO links to oog post I don’t think you intended to reference

damn site linking BS

In post 1824, Taly wrote:

Titus

, this fucks with my brain:

In post 1497, Titus wrote:If I get miseliminated for voting scum and having a life, I can live with that. We still should be no executing though. If we do miseliminate, I'm objectively the best one. So like I said, no hard feelings.

1)

Need a strong case on why we should no lim.

2)

Why are you ever a good mislim option... why is mislimming ever a choose-able option here... you're not even in a competing wagon at the moment.

3)

Is your

BM

scumread based around your case in 1293? Has it evolved?

I want this answered.
VOTE: Titus

to give you the motivation

In post 1835, xRECKONERx wrote:

In post 1831, Taly wrote:

In post 1826, xRECKONERx wrote:i feel like taly has completely avoided me the entire game while engaging with 99% of the playerlist and that has me confused

yo, lets rectify this

1)

How much does our solve align? I recently made a readslist.

2)

I get the impression you're familiar with

Haschel

, what are your insights on that player?

3)

Thoughts on the counterwagons to

Murder

? Has your read on

Murder

changed since his readslist?

some of my townreads scumread you but i dont agree with the

you/haschel

argument that was brought up earlier in the game.

i also like a good bit of your posts but im having difficulty forming strong scumreads this D1.

What should I do about this?

i definitely feel better oriented in this game BEFORE i went VLA, but i think flips will help me most from this point aside from skimming ISOs.

1) considering I'm in your "contains scum" pool I don't have much to say about it. I disagree about Alisae. I disagree I think about Akarin, BM... honestly most of it. DGB doesn't scream scum to me. the thing we most agree on imo is OWER being town
2) i am not super familiar with haschel as a mafia player, and i believe meta is trash. all i know is the one game we played together he also sat back and sorta participated less overall, and what i know of his personal life fits with not being able to sit here and no-life the game.
3) it's intriguing but mostly i think the idea of "scum counterwagons" is probably overblown and not as common as people think it is. i dont think it's likely for that to be as coordinated. that being said, the battle mage wagon intrigues me the most. i'm not interested in pursuing blitzo today, and in fact would wager that blitzo scumreads are likely coming from at least one scum who is doing the lazy "the lurker is town" bit that scum do from time to time. i think you, haschel, and bell need to get off your vanity wagons and go for something else. ideally, tgp/pooky/battlemage would as well, but im pretty sure im asking some scum to be useful if i were to do that, so i'm not going to bother

I have reservations about but I don't think pushing now accomplishes much.

Nobody has bit with and I'm wondering if my initial issue with was playstyle. I feel like they're pushing for people to give far more content than they've provided themselves.

If I had to be candid, I don't care much for a wagon, I just want to ensure they're not avoiding me... and also see how other people change votes.

I think I'm about to employ a strategy in Mafia that I've done before.

I'm so over it... the fact that I almost always end D1's without being on a wagon OR on a vanity wagon.



But, I also want to avoid having no vote... I'll no-lim vote before then.

I'm not near that point yet, and I'd rather not reach it if the thread consensus differs.

You know what

, I've detected a lot of paranoia from your slot so you double-downing on that vote makes little sense to me.

, I sympathize strongly if you're actually town here but I'm not feeling your solve or motivation that much, is there something to be done about that?

, is it accurate to say that you're being really focused on and pay little heed to other slots? Because that's how I feel about you.

, I don't know if my townread on you can survive if you say you're obvtown again WHILE keeping your vote on without further context.

, if you think I'm scum, give me at least 2 people I've been hard-defending this dayphase because that's the only way I'll think your serious about reading me. The number doubles D2.

, I'm not wanting to inject myself between you and , but do you think your counterwagon - is actually scum here, or town?

, case me your read.

, do something with more than one to two slots at a time, please. I'm not just talking about posts, you come into the thread and speak only on a few aspects of the game at a time.

In post 1862, Taly wrote:Murder, I sympathize strongly if you're actually town here but I'm not feeling your solve or motivation that much, is there something to be done about that?

I've read the game and given my reads and mech thoughts, I'm not sure what anyone else expects of me.

In post 1832, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1820, SirCakez wrote:Ok but if anything he seems better here then Xenoblade 2?

Yeah that’s where he gets ya. He seems “better” when he’s scum, because of what I spoke of earlier about being an agent of chaos.

In post 1842, Bell wrote:

In post 1833, Blitzo wrote:@Bell - why?
@Gamma - that was the first thing I was thinking of when I picked this.
I'm currently trying to figure out how to put angry eyes on the stick without Photoshop but I'm not currently having any success.

Because he's not getting eliminated today and he seems pretty convinced he's town.
Dunno where tunnel bear went, but I don't miss him.

@Cakez, There was no clear majority so the game state was half-baked. So I asked a few people in thread forever ago to decide so we could go full-baked and they said, "yeah okay" and then I said, "yeah okay."
And that's when it was decided.
Also, Pooky just said so and it was his idea. So make a cake and stop half-baking if you're town.

ok name some names here
you just keep saying "people" and it sounds fake as fuck

In post 1844, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1817, SirCakez wrote:I don't see any difference here on Pooky from other games I've played with him where he was town and scum

this can't be a real take

do you think yourself that there is a big difference between your town and scum play?

In post 1864, SirCakez wrote:

In post 1832, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1820, SirCakez wrote:Ok but if anything he seems better here then Xenoblade 2?

Yeah that’s where he gets ya. He seems “better” when he’s scum, because of what I spoke of earlier about being an agent of chaos.

yeah but in the game I played with him as scum he was actually terrible, much worse than here or Xenoblade 2 (quality of play wise)

MC seems to have given up but no elim plan

Seeing as ya'll don't like my catchup brainspew quote walls...

I'm just doing brainspew walls :3

#1781 - Why?

#1782 - Good question

#1783 - Good response.

#1786 - SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! [Admit it, you read it in the voice] (✿◠‿◠)

#1791 - You're meant to try and do it, and not just have it happen. V●ᴥ●V

#1791 - Another precisely average post from DGB (7 words of nothing), why are we letting this slide? And why are we letting these votes slide? ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓨ?

#1803 - You wish. You're town for now but not IC levels of town.

#1811 - Oh ye gods actual content from DGB that's incredibly vaguely useful! ˓˓ ⍥⃝⃝ ˒˒

#1818 - ... I can't put my wall up in this catchup format. UNVOTE: BM - I strongly dislike the Titus and DGB votes here and the feeling is strong. I get called out for opportunism but these two get a pass? ¬ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓐⓣ？On what planet do I exist currently? ... actually ... don't answer that.

#1836 - I think people got more vocal and some people got more pissy.

#1839 - I kinda wanna give the sad flareon hugs... but I dont wanna get burned.

#1841 - Pooks throwing shade at E V E R Y O N E.

#1849 - ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓐⓣ？

#1854 - If you're town you shouldn't be self-voting anyway?

#1855 - (♡´艸`) Fair enough then

#1857 - Yup, wasn't overly impressed with it myself. But I like to show my thinking.

#1859 - I'm glad this is happening.

#1860 - Do... Do I need popcorn?

#1862 - It's called embracing the chaotic nature of my mind and rolling with it.

dammit now I need to work that song into a post somewhere... I think DBG might be a good candidate for it.


#1866 - Disagree. I think MC is still holding on hope for it.

oh yeah I said I would respond to this

In post 1685, Taly wrote:-snip-

I never explained myself to be town-motivated in my mind. I was telling you about a more productive way to solve me.

And I stand by my stance. It was not my intention to misrep you like you understood in 1661. I didn't explictly say you never discussed no limming at all.

I was talking about how you didn't mention it in 1555 I wanted to know how your progression changed between THAT POST and your vote on

Murder

.

I get frustrated when people tell me I don't contribute when I gave reads about the game. I'm trying to mitigate this.

I don't like feeling dismissed, and it wasn't just

your post

that I got tense over, I was also vexed by

DGB's

disposition towards me and the disconnect I had with

Akarin

.

~~~

Aside from game stuff, I will admit I was angry IRL the other night and I AtE'd in the thread when I should've just logged off.

I apologize for how I presented myself. My difficulty with IRL frustration exacerbating my negativity in the game was why I VLA'd. I behaved less than responsibly. It is nothing personal to any of you in this game <3[/b

ok I feel like I understand you more here. Do you still need my progression explained? I feel like it's pretty straightforward.
You don't need to apologize haha your posting is timid compared to some of the crap I've had slung at me lately

In post 1681, SirCakez wrote:I also have to say I tend to read long ISOs as scum motivated because people rarely read them through and they look townie on surface level

SirCakez wrote:especially so early in the game when we don't even have flips to use to look at early-game associatives

I mean, sure.

But I wall and ISO regardless of my alignment,

even in D1

.

Alisae

can vouch I do this as scum AND town, and

Titus

knows I like ISOing a lot as town.

And this isn't to take away your suspicion of me, I'm just giving you a heads up that this isn't AI by itself.

yeah I'm less sure of this point now because it is definitely player dependent
and someone (I think Pooky or Gamma) gave me shit for it and they're kind of right

In post 1867, Flea The Magician wrote:Seeing as ya'll don't like my catchup brainspew quote walls...

I'm just doing brainspew walls :3

#1781 - Why?

#1782 - Good question

#1783 - Good response.

#1786 - SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! [Admit it, you read it in the voice] (✿◠‿◠)

#1791 - You're meant to try and do it, and not just have it happen. V●ᴥ●V

#1791 - Another precisely average post from DGB (7 words of nothing), why are we letting this slide? And why are we letting these votes slide? ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓨ?

#1803 - You wish. You're town for now but not IC levels of town.

#1811 - Oh ye gods actual content from DGB that's incredibly vaguely useful! ˓˓ ⍥⃝⃝ ˒˒

#1818 - ... I can't put my wall up in this catchup format. UNVOTE: BM - I strongly dislike the Titus and DGB votes here and the feeling is strong. I get called out for opportunism but these two get a pass? ¬ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓐⓣ？On what planet do I exist currently? ... actually ... don't answer that.

#1836 - I think people got more vocal and some people got more pissy.

#1839 - I kinda wanna give the sad flareon hugs... but I dont wanna get burned.

#1841 - Pooks throwing shade at E V E R Y O N E.

#1849 - ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓐⓣ？

#1854 - If you're town you shouldn't be self-voting anyway?

#1855 - (♡´艸`) Fair enough then

#1857 - Yup, wasn't overly impressed with it myself. But I like to show my thinking.

#1859 - I'm glad this is happening.

#1860 - Do... Do I need popcorn?

#1862 - It's called embracing the chaotic nature of my mind and rolling with it.

My mind I'va lost-a mah mind I'va lost. ma. mind. I've losta my mind I'VE LOST MY MIND

dammit now I need to work that song into a post somewhere... I think DBG might be a good candidate for it.


#1866 - Disagree. I think MC is still holding on hope for it.

see this is the kind of wall that bothers me because it's just so useless and very few people if anyone are gonna read through it
is this a Flea thing?

awwww I used the same kaomoji twice in a post. 3 times if you count the moji and not the text.

I am in disgrace.

In post 1869, SirCakez wrote:

In post 1867, Flea The Magician wrote:Seeing as ya'll don't like my catchup brainspew quote walls...

I'm just doing brainspew walls :3

[snip]

see this is the kind of wall that bothers me because it's just so useless and very few people if anyone are gonna read through it
is this a Flea thing?

Yup. It is. I get better results and it uses less spell slots if I just brain spew instead of trying to filter it

If people read it, they read it. If they don't, they don't.
If people want to ask me something, I can usually point and say "oh yeah I saw there, heres what I said" because I gotta be able to read my own drivel. If not then I say "Oh nuts I didn't notice that! brb while I go look!"

OOO would you rather me lurkey lurkerson or BRAINSPEW TO DA MAX?

Analysing my own spew walls....

You should be able to detect from the fluff, "me not here for long time me here for good time WHAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO!"
I do have reads in there.
I do have some questions in there.
I do have some responses in there.

You just gotta trim the floof. Watch out for the pointy enz.

In post 1866, SirCakez wrote:MC seems to have given up but no elim plan

I am town who doesn't really want to push for a different miselim.
Pooky knows I'm town, look at 2170.

In post 1867, Flea The Magician wrote:If you're town you shouldn't be self-voting anyway?

Normally I would at deadline, as a miselim that would happen later is better than a no elim. I don't think that's the case here.