In post 1816, unwnd wrote:While I'm here though I'd like to thoughtrant about your slot Ydra. There are some instances in this game that stand out to me, like your interaction with Koba before they repped out. This specific instance is not what is telling to me rather I think you replicate that behavior to others when you're accused. There's just a lot of 'oh well fuck this game' or you seem a bit sulky/temperamental towards people killing your vibe or whatever. That all plays into this fine emotion that sans himself has said you're pretty good at faking. Should I be lead to believe that your natural response is to be this way if you feel someone is wronged you, or that you would lean into your own sensibilities more as scum? I remember Hectic v Flavor Leaf and I gave a lazy ass townread on you for your emotional presence, but then you'd feel responsible to actually trying to fake solve inbetween which I feel like you know is just awkward.
So my problem relates to the fact I'm seeing a lot of emotional behavior, which is something you're good at. Something that would definitely get you townread in a tight situation. If you're town I'd like to hope things don't have to be so apprehensive? And if you genuinely felt like people were killing your vibe me personally I don't feel that way but I do need to read you and a lot of that vibeness to me doesn't seem like a valid way of doing so. I'd just be making the same mistake as FL v Hectic.
i don’t fake my emotions when i play, is the thing. i feel them and i decide what i want to do with them in the terms of a game; i can happy and cheerful or sad and frustrated as either alignment. and sometimes it’s hard for me to really control that and it spews out into the game whether or not i really want it to. yes i could not post but sometimes that’s just not the case of what happens in actuality
in this context i was already in a bit of a weird mood and then it spiraled and i got upset and i’m still sorry for it because i feel i made this game worse as a whole for how i reacted
i don’t know if this answers your question but none of what i feel is faked basically and that probably makes it harder to read me as a whole when i do get emotional but that’s just who i am as a person
A)You ask me to pair with you and Noraa.
B)I get paired with Hectic/Ydrasse.
C) You claim to be upset it didn’t happen.
D) You inexplicably now have me at the bottom of your readslist.
Explain to me how any of this makes even an iota of sense.
- The solidarity of my reads is that there is 2 scum within the confines of your grouping.
That would require Hectic and Ydrasse to be engaging in some kind of scum theatre. I don’t know, it’s possible but I think more likely only one of them is scum.
- The solidarity of my reads is that there is 2 scum within the confines of your grouping.
That would require Hectic and Ydrasse to be engaging in some kind of scum theatre. I don’t know, it’s possible but I think more likely only one of them is scum.
A)You ask me to pair with you and Noraa.
B)I get paired with Hectic/Ydrasse.
C) You claim to be upset it didn’t happen.
D) You inexplicably now have me at the bottom of your readslist.
Explain to me how any of this makes even an iota of sense.
I did, you did, I was, you are?
???
I’m not? So it wasn’t ordered then? I’m confused.
Might I enquire as to why your thinking? What is confusing you, my dear Doctor?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:39 am
by unwnd
Gonna do some rereading sooner or later.
I acknowledge your response Ydra but I'd like to know a bit more where your head is at in terms of reads? I recall you mentioning that you've flipped your read on Sans and now thinks he's scum. Whatever you wanna talk about
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:39 am
by unwnd
Hatters I'd love to confront you but I can't read through the gimmick, it has a certain prose that I just instantly tune out from
I must urge you to consider my request, the nature of the phase requires that I make only one proposal, The Harlequin has also made a counter proposal to you.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:44 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I will be extending the deadline for 1 day due to site being difficult to reach.
I legitimately scum read every. single. person here a small amount.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:35 pm
by Sans Undertale
so, i've got a question for ya.
do you think even the worst person can change. . . ?
that everybody can be a good person, if they just try?
heh heh heh he. . .
i've told you who i think the two sinners are, it's up to you now to see what you wanna do. trust and dance with them... believe in redemption... or send them straight to hell. i'll be here either way.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:37 pm
by Noraa
In post 1867, Sans Undertale wrote:do you think even the worst person can change. . . ?
that everybody can be a good person, if they just try?
in terms of life, yes.
in terms of mafia, unless the mod is bastard, no.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:37 pm
by Noraa
In post 1867, Sans Undertale wrote:i've told you who i think the two sinners are, it's up to you now to see what you wanna do. trust and dance with them... believe in redemption... or send them straight to hell. i'll be here either way.
I don't remember who you said.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:43 pm
by Sans Undertale
the colour of their role pm doesn't matter, bud. if ydrasse and
MY BROTHER PAPYRUS
hatters truly wanted to ascend to greatness, they would own up to us and just be town in spirit. it's up to them.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:47 pm
by unwnd
I would like to see people stop getting cold feet and determine who they're dancing with
I acknowledge your response Ydra but I'd like to know a bit more where your head is at in terms of reads? I recall you mentioning that you've flipped your read on Sans and now thinks he's scum. Whatever you wanna talk about
right now it boils down to, in essence, 1 of sans + hatters/harley which is like... expected, probaby?
i've already explained that i think that you're town through your interactions with fire/koba, and i don't wanna dwell there. noraa is... i think i'm predisposed to scumreading her, and i think i was frustrated with how she entered the game which was why i wasn't as sold on her being town as everyone else thought she was. waiting until that late to switch when you're having these issues in a table where people like you/will townread you off of like... very emotional/aggressive behavior (which is something else that i think contributed to me getting emotional, because i find it uhhhhh. kinda toxic admittedly, but i don't think this is the time or place to engage with that at all). what's more credible for her as town currently is that, other than the flips making her townier, 2/3 people in my scumpool are trying to dance with her right now knowing that she's towny; these are two people (or at least one, i have a guess on who the other person is) are people who would be able to pocket her i think, through their bonds; like, noraa is stubborn and if they somehow get her to believe that they're town i don't think noraa would leave them at any point. i think that hatters has marginally more standing to dance with noraa because they had the night pt together which hopefully noraa used to try and sort them, and i would be like. more okay with them.
actually thinking through this it doesn't have to be sans, or if it is it's slightly more likely to be sans + harley than it is sans + hatter, because i dunno why he would ask to dance with hatter if they were scum together knowing the situation. that, and hatters wanting harley to dance with them and being pretty concrete about always going with harley if possible is also maybe a potential team-y interaction? i think that they might have been able to force through a vote away from fire (shout out to mom btw for leaving by the way, your reads were reversed but you got out fire thank god, sorry that i was sussing you) somehow. but also, there's the thing with sans trying to get the vote off of fire and onto you/noraa/hatters which is like... that seems still like too much of a gamble to make because he was still thinking it was either 1/2 in each pool and it seems to ignore the fact that me + harley could be together? like, that's the thing i can't get over, people trying to gamble outside of what i think literally everyone was saying was scum/had scum in it
disregarding individual behavior and going with associations, i have slightly more reason to think that hatters and sans are town than i do harley; behavior wise, i have more reason to think harley is town (i was slow to come to this, she has a like. indignation about her at times that she can't really/haven't seen her fake tonally, imo, and it's come out more and more over time)
so that's basically my Thoughts on this game so far, it's a jumbled mess and i'm sorry my mind is mush after typing this and i am going to smoke or take cold medicine or something
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:10 pm
by Noraa
I think sans and ydra should pair and we should vote them out. The reason is that I'm pretty sure there's one scum there. They are both scum reading each other and the whole game state basically just requires one of them to be scum.
They have played enough games with each other as two town and made everyone think they were masons or something. The fact that neither is town reading the other here is a 90% indication that most likely 1 of them is scum here.
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:11 pm
by Noraa
the rest of the groups don't matter since if we get a death pool decided, other groups would only have 1 scum which we'll have time in the next phase to sort.