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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:35 pm
by Kate Bishop
I have a fondness for the wheme wagon in the interim.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:36 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 1579, Lukewarm wrote:
Spoiler:
Okay. DGB has been gone for like 12 hours and 600 posts. When they comeback, they come in swinging with these two posts:
In post 1431, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1176, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Feels like his focus is really all on DGB in his catchup to me.
In every single post, Lukewarm and Manatee keep up the refrain "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum"

Like propaganda, convincing by repetition. It's subliminal but it's highly effective.
In post 1438, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1239, Lukewarm wrote:I was talking about my scum reads on DGB and Toog.
How convenient that these are LLD's reads, and LLD rarely switches directions. You can count on her pushing these reads until she gets her way.

If I were scum I'd support all her reads too.
Which first off, I don't think that it is very accurate, I have been talking about a lot of other slots, and even been saying that while I scum read both them and toog, I don't think they could be partners, and had started leaning away from dgb and towards toog being the scum in the pair, but that is completely besides the point.

But secondly, here they are agreeing with kyouko's interpretation of my catch up posts, which implies they read my catch up, right? (Or they are blindly agreeing without reading, which is bad...)

My catch up was 891 - 1099. So, They voiced an opinion on my posts ranging from 891 to 1099.

But then immediately after, they appear to say that they have missed the reveal of unwnds secret scum read which happened in 1030 (dgb 1446).


So from my pov, something aint right.

Did dgb read my posts from 891-1099? If they did, why are they later claiming to not have read other things that were said around that same time? Did their catch up start with an iso on me? Why? I was a fairly non-presence when they left the thread.

If they did not read my catch up posts, then what are they talking about when they are agreeing with Kyouko in post 1431?

Lets go with the idea that they started reading on a random page, and were agreeing with Kyouko's post 1176. What was I talking about leading up to that post?
Spoiler:

1134 - marci
1137 - manatee
1139 - kate / manatee
1141 - kate / manatee
1142 - cabd / kate / manatee
1148 - manatee
1149 - toog
1166 - wheme
1172 - toog and
dgb

1175 - Asking marci about town reading
dgb
[/spo/iler]

So in my 10 posts leading up to the kyouko post that dgb agrees with, I mention dgb twice. Once to say that I think either they or toog are scum, but not both. And once to ask someone to tell me why they were town reading dgb.

Now, lets look back at dgb's post:
In post 1431, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1176, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Feels like his focus is really all on DGB in his catchup to me.
In every single post, Lukewarm and Manatee keep up the refrain "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum" "DGB is scum"

Like propaganda, convincing by repetition. It's subliminal but it's highly effective.
I am trying to figure out when this is ever a real thought that dgb had about me, and it really does not make sense to me.

If they read the posts in question, then why did had they not read the other things?
If they started randomly near kyouko's post, what made them think this?

So I am left thinking that they were not caught up, and they had no reason to actually think it. But they agreed with kyouko anyways, which seems hella scummy.


....

I typed all of that up, and it feels like my line of thinking about Titus in bloodstained, so I don't think people are going to like it :dead:

I still think dgb is scummy, and I would say that the difference here, is that I have lots of other things that lead me to scum read dgb before this. Where Titus, she went from a null read to a lock scum read over just this kind of thing.

I think that the better reasons I have to be suspicious of dgb are things like this:

Spoiler:
In post 906, Lukewarm wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 624, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 618, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:and LLD says 235 is like a "mask off paranoia" (scum with their mask off?) that is posted to prevent the formation of a townblock.
~maybe~

But LLD is scumreading me and I'm town so, seeing her warped reasoning on me, I'm not about to sheep her on what could be equally warped reasoning on other players.
[/sp/oiler]

I am not really liking DGB. And I really don't like this post.

Why is she not just forming an opinion on Toog on her own? Like why wave away the Toog suspicions because LLD (from her pov) has 1 bad read on her?

And even "LLD has one bad read, and therefore all of her reads can be ignored" feels really bad anyways.

I am also unwure how DGB is reading LLD atm? Like, just earlier this page she said she thought LLD's claim was scummy, but this post seems to imply that LLD's reads are real, but bad?

This also ignores that Dunn and myself have also voiced concerns about Toog up to this point :/

idk. Weird post, that does not actually call either Toog or LLD scum or town
In post 915, Lukewarm wrote:[spo/iler=]
In post 656, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 653, GuyInFreezer wrote:I think manatee’s role has non-zero chance of being 3p.
That could be true for LLD as well, no?

It's anyone's guess.
In post 657, DrippingGoofball wrote:No one is going to say they want to yeet it because they might be killed for it.
[/spoi/ler]


Eww

This does not feel like real thoughts about LLD's role
In post 975, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 970, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 725, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 724, Cabd wrote:
In post 722, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 701, unwnd wrote:That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling
What is geriatric style? I feel I should be the designated trendsetter for this.
Geriatric_Ruleset
I like it!

In other news I'm content townreading Toogeloo, I see nothing that concerns me.
This one

Which also, why does "I see nothing that concerns me" = a town read, instead of like. A null read?

DGB what are your reasons for this town read?
I liked it.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:40 pm
by WhemeStar
In post 1850, Kate Bishop wrote:I have a fondness for the wheme wagon in the interim.
Why do you like Wheme wagon

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:46 pm
by WhemeStar
Idk how town ffery scumreads me here but I am probably giving people 2 much credit in how well they can read me

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:47 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 1614, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1612, Lukewarm wrote:He said the first thing he unlocks is the neighborizor, and that would be confirmable.

So not confirmable now, but would be at some point in the future?
That doesn't confirm his role. It confirms his role has a neighbourizer stored somewhere within it.

Again, this is not what Confirmable means. And certainly not what he intoned when he said it was confirmable.


The claim doesn't match what he's saying.
Glad to see this sentiment elsewhere. This was one of my first thoughts, that the claim did not match the previous softs

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:48 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 1853, WhemeStar wrote:Idk how town ffery scumreads me here but I am probably giving people 2 much credit in how well they can read me
it was the "drunkposting".

You did a pretty good replay of yggdrasil, though!

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:48 pm
by WhemeStar
I think I was wrong about ssbm

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:48 pm
by WhemeStar
In post 1855, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 1853, WhemeStar wrote:Idk how town ffery scumreads me here but I am probably giving people 2 much credit in how well they can read me
it was the "drunkposting".

You did a pretty good replay of yggdrasil, though!
I’m not really drunk. Only 3 drinks in so I was a little tipsy but I have since stopped and now I’m laying down. Just tired

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:49 pm
by WhemeStar
I do have plans though to get Blacked out tomorrow so hopefully that happens

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:49 pm
by WhemeStar
In post 1855, Kate Bishop wrote:You did a pretty good replay of yggdrasil, though
I’m not sure what you mean here I’m sorry

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:51 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 1859, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1855, Kate Bishop wrote:You did a pretty good replay of yggdrasil, though
I’m not sure what you mean here I’m sorry
Your post about liking questions to answer was almost word for word something you said to me in yggdrasil.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:52 pm
by WhemeStar
oh

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:53 pm
by WhemeStar
I do think that helps me a lot rather than randomly trying to explain thoughts because I blow at that

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:55 pm
by Kate Bishop
Subject: Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -
WhemeStar wrote:Also thanks for asking me so many questions it makes it easier to get my thoughts out which is what I think I struggle with the most in this game.
In post 1748, WhemeStar wrote:I appreciate going back and forth though I think it’s easier to get my thoughts out as well :)

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:57 pm
by WhemeStar
Yah I remember that conversation

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:57 pm
by WhemeStar
It’s a good way for me to obv town as well!

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:01 pm
by WhemeStar
Ffery if someone is the “worst” player in the lobby what are your thoughts on that person sheeping others?

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:02 pm
by WhemeStar
Like the more I look at this playerlist and try to iso dive I’m just like wow everyone here is good at this game and they’re gonna be hard to catch as scum.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:02 pm
by WhemeStar
I will die on the hill that dunn is town though

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:03 pm
by Kate Bishop
I dunno.

It bugs me.

As did the way you dropped the drunkspelling.

I get hung up on surface stuff sometimes, and this is surface stuff. Still bugs me.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:08 pm
by WhemeStar
The drunk spelling wasn’t really drunk spelling though. It was more of me typing too fast and being tipsy to where I didn’t really care if auto corrected fixed or not. Idk like I’ve been drunk to the point where I can’t spell and this DEFINITELY wasn’t it. I also wouldn’t take it cause that’s cringe. I was just lazy/tired.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:09 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 1866, WhemeStar wrote:Ffery if someone is the “worst” player in the lobby what are your thoughts on that person sheeping others?
I'm not 100% against it by any means.

I've followed players I respect before. I do my best to get a solid read of the player first.

And I'm more likely to follow someone after they were right when I was wrong a few spectacular times.

And I try to learn what they were seeing that I wasn't.

And I occasionally get burned.

If you're following a Cabd or an LLD I hope it's with the intention to learn and get to a place where you're comfortable playing based on your own game thoughts.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:11 pm
by Kate Bishop
I don't think this game is ez mode.

I hope it is, but it doesn't feel right.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:11 pm
by GuyInFreezer
I hereby ban any form of sulking in this thread.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:13 pm
by Kate Bishop
You're not the boss of me!