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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:45 pm
by Auro
Sorry, been very busy day yesterday and likely today too. I'll be back my evening.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:45 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Or if manatee remains frozen we just vote her out :yawn:

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:46 pm
by Miss Midnight
In post 1843, Gamma Emerald wrote:That feels kinda flimsy
Why do you think Flea wouldn’t bus? How does your read on me factor into that?
Doesn't really make sense. A random last minute vote on Enchant there would give basically no town credit and would probably actually be more suspicious than it would give town credit. There's especially no reason to do it when we literally had tied competing wagons.

It has basically nothing to do with my read on you?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:46 pm
by the worst
VOTE: manatee

pedit:
PenguinPower wrote:ngl…I really did have homemade sushi for dinner tonight.
thanks for the invite :( jeez.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:47 pm
by Miss Midnight
In post 1844, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1842, Miss Midnight wrote:
In post 1835, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1833, Miss Midnight wrote:It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town.
Why? Because Flea hasn't voted for Enchant?
Basically? Yeah.
It wouldn't matter if both Enchant and Gamma were town, would it?
I'm not sure I understand the question.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:48 pm
by the worst
i don't super follow/want to get deep into the convo re. Flea, i am just not picking up what faer posts are putting down.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:48 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1850, Auro wrote:Sorry, been very busy day yesterday and likely today too. I'll be back my evening.
Omg guys Auro was super active and then super inactive... he must be scum.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:48 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1852, Miss Midnight wrote:
In post 1843, Gamma Emerald wrote:That feels kinda flimsy
Why do you think Flea wouldn’t bus? How does your read on me factor into that?
Doesn't really make sense. A random last minute vote on Enchant there would give basically no town credit and would probably actually be more suspicious than it would give town credit. There's especially no reason to do it when we literally had tied competing wagons.

It has basically nothing to do with my read on you?
I’m not asking how it affects your read on me, rather I’m asking the reverse, how your read on me informs your view of the Flea/Enchant relationship

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:49 pm
by Something_Smart
Wait, but he also pagetopped.

Shit, now I don't know what to do.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:49 pm
by the worst
only scum have things to do irl. down with auro!

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:49 pm
by Miss Midnight
In post 1846, Bee wrote:I disagree in the case of Manatee. Having a way to get her back into the game and being reminded of why I TR her potentially is useful for me at least. Worst case Manatee's frozen still and I return to one of the big two and see if people are willing to let them build up again.
I think that we've already seen a demonstration early on in this game that a wagon on Manatee doesn't seem to serve to get her more invested in the game. Especially one that people explicitly basically say is a pressure wagon.

I agree that you can always just switch your vote again later. But there's still an opportunity cost, I'd say.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 pm
by the worst
ss do you feel like you should be readable so far?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:51 pm
by Miss Midnight
In post 1857, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1852, Miss Midnight wrote:
In post 1843, Gamma Emerald wrote:That feels kinda flimsy
Why do you think Flea wouldn’t bus? How does your read on me factor into that?
Doesn't really make sense. A random last minute vote on Enchant there would give basically no town credit and would probably actually be more suspicious than it would give town credit. There's especially no reason to do it when we literally had tied competing wagons.

It has basically nothing to do with my read on you?
I’m not asking how it affects your read on me, rather I’m asking the reverse, how your read on me informs your view of the Flea/Enchant relationship
Yeah, again I think I want to say it changes nothing? Doesn't really have all that much to do with you I don't think.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:51 pm
by Gamma Emerald
ngl if enchant is town that bee post is nagl, even more so if manatee is scum

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:53 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 1854, Miss Midnight wrote:
In post 1844, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1842, Miss Midnight wrote:
In post 1835, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1833, Miss Midnight wrote:It seems to me like Flea scum only makes sense if Enchant is also scum, I can't really see Flea scum Enchant town.
Why? Because Flea hasn't voted for Enchant?
Basically? Yeah.
It wouldn't matter if both Enchant and Gamma were town, would it?
I'm not sure I understand the question.
Suppose Enchant & Gamma were TvT wagons, both at 6 votes

Scum Flea can just vote whichever miselim wagon fae wants to go through

A hypothetical scenario in which scum flea and enchant town can coexist

But I guess you'd have to think Gamma could be town in this scenario

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:54 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 1863, Gamma Emerald wrote:ngl if enchant is town that bee post is nagl, even more so if manatee is scum
What Bee post? I don't see one that fits this bill.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:55 pm
by Miss Midnight
In post 1864, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Suppose Enchant & Gamma were TvT wagons, both at 6 votes

Scum Flea can just vote whichever miselim wagon fae wants to go through

A hypothetical scenario in which scum flea and enchant town can coexist

But I guess you'd have to think Gamma could be town in this scenario
I do think that Gamma could be town? Or rather, as I think I said verbatim and had a whole argument about earlier, I'm not so arrogant as to be incapable of considering worlds in which I'm wrong. Interesting that people seem to have that perception of me, though.

In that scenario, why does scum Flea refuse to vote the Enchant wagon? As you say, fae can just vote whichever one to go through and switch between them.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:55 pm
by Bee
In post 1860, Miss Midnight wrote:
In post 1846, Bee wrote:I disagree in the case of Manatee. Having a way to get her back into the game and being reminded of why I TR her potentially is useful for me at least. Worst case Manatee's frozen still and I return to one of the big two and see if people are willing to let them build up again.
I think that we've already seen a demonstration early on in this game that a wagon on Manatee doesn't seem to serve to get her more invested in the game. Especially one that people explicitly basically say is a pressure wagon.

I agree that you can always just switch your vote again later. But there's still an opportunity cost, I'd say.
The hope is that a later hour and explicit need for something to bring her in that it does something. I don't think there will be an issue rebuilding what was there previously and if there is there is probably an issue unearthed from that that can be explored. I think the cost is not that great!!

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:57 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1858, Something_Smart wrote:Wait, but he also pagetopped.

Shit, now I don't know what to do.
<3

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:58 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 1866, Miss Midnight wrote:I do think that Gamma could be town? Or rather, as I think I said verbatim and had a whole argument about earlier, I'm not so arrogant as to be incapable of considering worlds in which I'm wrong. Interesting that people seem to have that perception of me, though.

In that scenario, why does scum Flea refuse to vote the Enchant wagon?
As you say, fae can just vote whichever one to go through and switch between them.
Nah, not arrogant. I just wasn't sure if you were working from the assumption that Gamma is scum.

One reason would be optics - one can't be seen as willing to go with any miselim.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:59 pm
by the worst
i wouldn't call midnight arrogant, so much as like.. confident? assertive/projecting confidence? i don't get the impression they're steering the game so much as i have a lesser gravitational pull and am drawn into their collected demeanour.
not sure if this helps anyone, i adore waxing poetic.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:00 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1866, Miss Midnight wrote:In that scenario, why does scum Flea refuse to vote the Enchant wagon? As you say, fae can just vote whichever one to go through and switch between them.
To make Enchant look like a partner, or just to avoid looking like scum riding the middle?
ninja’d by CSF lol

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:00 pm
by PenguinPower
You are my nicer self duck.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:01 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1869, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Nah, not arrogant. I just wasn't sure if you were working from the assumption that Gamma is scum.
This is kinda why I’m suspicious of MM, some of what she’s posted feels this way but other things don’t entirely line up with it and that disconnect in how I perceive her faith in her read of me feels scum-indicative.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:03 pm
by the worst
In post 1873, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1869, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Nah, not arrogant. I just wasn't sure if you were working from the assumption that Gamma is scum.
This is kinda why I’m suspicious of MM, some of what she’s posted feels this way but other things don’t entirely line up with it and that disconnect in how I perceive her faith in her read of me feels scum-indicative.
this actually makes a lot of sense.