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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:17 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1848, House wrote:
In post 1837, HawaiianPizza wrote:t3/dwlee is such a good pair and dwlee's votes on t3 feel like busses omfg im either extremely smart or super dumb

let's go
T3 is a possibility. Claiming investigative as scum weirds me out, though. If he's scum, he's not playing the long game.

dwlee, I'm not seeing. Lend me your eyeballs and show me what you see.
I don't think t3 as scum would be playing to endgame here, but there aren't any other investigatives so I actually think he might be town now after the mass claim. If someone isn't claiming something please do

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:20 am
by Dwlee99
Let's say every PR claim is legit except for t3. That would give us 1-shot BP neighbors, a mailman who knows there is a bulletproof traitor, a complex vigilante, and am I missing anything? No investigative power at all?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:21 am
by House
In post 1850, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1848, House wrote:
In post 1837, HawaiianPizza wrote:t3/dwlee is such a good pair and dwlee's votes on t3 feel like busses omfg im either extremely smart or super dumb

let's go
T3 is a possibility. Claiming investigative as scum weirds me out, though. If he's scum, he's not playing the long game.

dwlee, I'm not seeing. Lend me your eyeballs and show me what you see.
I don't think t3 as scum would be playing to endgame here, but there aren't any other investigatives so I actually think he might be town now after the mass claim. If someone isn't claiming something please do
That's where I've been sitting at.

2 quasi-investigatives in lieu of 1 actually investigative adds up.

Otherwise, town seems a little weak on information gathering.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:25 am
by Dwlee99
The setup as claimed if t3 is scum might as well be one with one conftown (complex vigilante) and nothing else because neighbors don't give any alignment info, neither does the mailman. I don't get why in this setup where town power seems so low there would also be a roleblocker though. The ascetic idea is possible instead and would make more sense I think, and could explain town!t3 not getting shot because scum might not be worried about getting guiltied?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:28 am
by House
Ascetic scum actually makes sense in a game with bulletproof townies as a scum counter to town's night immunity.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:30 am
by Dwlee99
Complete tinfoil is Jacket (ascetic) + Zen (neighbor), both of which weren't worried that they could get guiltied so they left t3 alive

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:40 am
by House
In post 1855, Dwlee99 wrote:Complete tinfoil is Jacket (ascetic) + Zen (neighbor), both of which weren't worried that they could get guiltied so they left t3 alive
Not quite sold on that.

If scum had absolutely no fear of T3, I don't think both members would be itching to lim him.

Both of the players in your tinfoil are calling for his head, though.

If T3 is town, ascetic is possible but I don't think the entire team would be invulnerable.

Town power that has zero risk to scum makes no sense, whatsoever.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:44 am
by House
My tinfoil is that there will be no NK tonight if Zen is town because scum can't afford to go into endgame with a townie they can't kill.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:45 am
by Dwlee99
There's an indirect risk if a person in the poe gets cleared, so it wouldn't be without risk to scum.

But I could see both itching to lim him just for the free mislim even if they're immune. T3 gets eliminated a lot (no offense)

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:46 am
by Dwlee99
I'm definitely not sold on the theory but I think it makes a lot of sense if t3 is town here

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:53 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Vote Count 3.01
TheZenMan (0):

House (0):

Save The Dragons (0):

Three (0):

T3 (0):

Jacket (0):

Dwlee99 (0):

HawaiianPizza (0):

No Elimination (1):
T3
Not Voting (7):
TheZenMan, House, Save The Dragons, Three, Dwlee99, HawaiianPizza, Jacket

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate, or 4 to "no eliminate." Day 3 ends when an elimination is decided or in (expired on 2021-10-21 09:00:00).

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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:56 am
by Dwlee99
Okay so using precedent that most of the time when I tunnel in a silly way D1 it's on town, let's say I assume three is town here (which I think also has ended up being consensusy)

Then we have
TheZenMan
House
Save The Dragons
T3
Jacket
HawaiianPizza

I think we need an investigative role which gives us

TheZenMan
House
Save The Dragons
Jacket
HawaiianPizza

Sheeping t3 on STD no matter how bad meta is would give us

TheZenMan
House
Jacket
HawaiianPizza

House has been townie and his interactions with Jacket look really good

TheZenMan
Jacket
HawaiianPizza

As the solve. HP being the traitor would make sense cause he could be signalling by angling towards voting me or t3 that he is the traitor

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:58 am
by Dwlee99
In post 48, HawaiianPizza wrote:im gay
There was this which could be a traitor crumb after redtea said gay = mafia

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:59 am
by Dwlee99
In post 84, HawaiianPizza wrote:lol osetr getting people to dislike him, classic

gtg

remember: hawaiian pizza, a cool cookie, and red tea.
one of us do not quite fit and it's obviously the red tea
This might also be a crumb cause it's saying one of cookie/redtea/HP is different for some reason

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:00 am
by House
In post 1862, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 48, HawaiianPizza wrote:im gay
There was this which could be a traitor crumb after redtea said gay = mafia
d1 shitposting being used like this is reachy, lol.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:02 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1864, House wrote:
In post 1862, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 48, HawaiianPizza wrote:im gay
There was this which could be a traitor crumb after redtea said gay = mafia
d1 shitposting being used like this is reachy, lol.
I really don't agree. I think the traitor is very likely to be trying to crumb /somehow/ so scum don't waste a night shooting them or pushing them

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:10 am
by Dwlee99
Reviewing the joint ISO I feel even better about this solve. They lightly push or shade each other but never go beyond that. They also don't directly interact much at all and seem to be playing with the entire game except for each other (HP being the obvious exception here and has some interactions with both of them but they don't with each other)

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:11 am
by HawaiianPizza
In post 1862, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 48, HawaiianPizza wrote:im gay
There was this which could be a traitor crumb after redtea said gay = mafia
meme
In post 1863, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 84, HawaiianPizza wrote:lol osetr getting people to dislike him, classic

gtg

remember: hawaiian pizza, a cool cookie, and red tea.
one of us do not quite fit and it's obviously the red tea
This might also be a crumb cause it's saying one of cookie/redtea/HP is different for some reason
we're all food related
i just realised red tea can be the odd one out as a drink, but the joke was originally me being the odd one out as cookies and tea is a normal combination.
meme analysis.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:11 am
by Dwlee99
HP's interactions are also light towards them as well ftr

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:11 am
by TheZenMan
In post 1848, House wrote:
In post 1837, HawaiianPizza wrote:t3/dwlee is such a good pair and dwlee's votes on t3 feel like busses omfg im either extremely smart or super dumb

let's go
T3 is a possibility. Claiming investigative as scum weirds me out, though. If he's scum, he's not playing the long game.

dwlee, I'm not seeing. Lend me your eyeballs and show me what you see.
He was forced to claim and claiming investigative might have been him trying to claim something that's useful for town.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:12 am
by Dwlee99
Who is it if not you

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:12 am
by House
My issue with pizza is that he's been coasting up until today, and the reads that he has posted don't have much spice.

Calling Three town? Duh.
Calling me likely town? Duh.
Calling T3 scum? No surprise there.
Scolding over the A50 flip? I've made my feelings on that known.
Scumreading dwlee? Seems like a safe, "this guy isn't UT" take.
Zen is the only fairly spicy read, which a small part of me can't help but agree with because role shenannies paranoia.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:14 am
by TheZenMan
In post 1857, House wrote:My tinfoil is that there will be no NK tonight if Zen is town because scum can't afford to go into endgame with a townie they can't kill.
This would be true if everyone realised I was town, but not everyone do.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:16 am
by TheZenMan
In post 1863, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 84, HawaiianPizza wrote:lol osetr getting people to dislike him, classic

gtg

remember: hawaiian pizza, a cool cookie, and red tea.
one of us do not quite fit and it's obviously the red tea
This might also be a crumb cause it's saying one of cookie/redtea/HP is different for some reason
This is really reaching, since we know both red tea and cool cokkie are town. And he said it was red tea. I guess scum Jacket could be signalling that he thinks red tea is the traitor.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:18 am
by Dwlee99
Crumbs typically are reaching a little bit

But the point is who is saying one is different + saying "I'm gay (mafia)" in addition to it. I don't think I can convince you to vote yourself or your buddy though