Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

And we plan*

Phone die. I will murder you.

[Leonshade]

{CK, Creature}
{Ali, Math, ThinkBig, Vecna, RadiantCowbells}
{Gorkington, Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai}
{LUV}

So something like that? Or Vecna and Creature are scum and somehow hit the jackpot with their gambit.

[Leonshade]

UNVOTE:

That scumteam makes no sense. Why would scum!Gorkington try to build the Big Ben?

[MathBlade]

Vote back on confirmed scum.

You also aren't including PV in your calculations for shame.

[MathBlade]

Vecna and Creature are scum together and so is PV.

[Leonshade]

PV is dead, there's no need to include him in calculations.

LUV is not confirmed, he could still be town in the world in which RC is scum. If I'm having difficulty finding a sensible scumteam with LUV, I have to doubt my TRs. And in that situation, I can't bet the game on RC being town. I'll have to sleep on this.

[Leonshade]

{CK, RC} and three from {PV, Caesar, Gorkington, Senpai} makes more sense to me than Vecna and Creature being scum.

[MathBlade]

...Leon claims scum

[RadiantCowbells]

I have the scumteam solved and it's not vecna/creature leon

just vote the guilty

[RadiantCowbells]

i am very, very convinced right now that the scumteam is

Caesar/Notice/LUV/Alisae/Gorkington

by the way

[Creature]

Okay, we agree on three things, so we're good.

[RadiantCowbells]

I want TB to come back online before day end because a lot of my change on notice came from stuff they did in neighbourhood.

Davesaz kill felt like scum in hood because that's the only reason they'd know that he'd be safe. I feel like RB was in fact used on Leon as opposed to them being scum.
Also Notice way too readily allowed me to leash her doc onto me even though she's sort of vague on her read on me and she never brought up the fact that I pulled her off Dave and Dave died?

like that feels weird. nancy scumread me for it at one point in thread and I think it's a reasonable point to have and notice not even bringing it up feels really bad

LUV is confirmed scum but also it really doesn't make sense to me why scum would give me the dayvig over LUV anyway

Alisae felt like wrt LUV's wifoming that they knew they couldn't be shot at. it felt really informed.
I brought that up in neighbourhood and Notice immediately brushed it off and said that there's no way that Alisae could be scum and that feels bad

The whole Caesar/Ali thing has given me bad vibes since the beginning and that feels like exactly the thing that the two players would do
also the fact that scum didn't take the vig and seem to be out of slots WRT not forbidden palacing vig away from me makes me feel like scum wasted slots

and Ali scum makes a lot of sense with the rest of my scumreads even though I TR their play

Gorkington makes the most sense for the last one but is the one that I'm least sure of ftr. he's sort of poe

[RadiantCowbells]

Gorkington could be swapped out for like Leon or whoever but if you go back to the Gorkington wagons

Gorkington (7): Leonshade, Vecna, MathBlade, davesaz, Nero Cain, CloudKicker, Lil Uzi Vert

this would be an all town wagon until LUV jumps on at the end when it feels inevitable and given that scum are clearly not bussing the whole thing just feels really right to me

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I actually took the time to do VCA from the POV of scum are definitely not bussing this game and everyone in that pile adds up. no one voted each other besides throwaways

[RadiantCowbells]

Ali neighbourizes me. I am positive I can sort them 1v1 and I want to know for sure that they're scum before I go in that direction

neighbourhood doc and rolestop should be on me since I'm confident both are coming from town and my death costs a mislynch. That does mean giving up CK and I am confident it is worth it
Creature you should roleblock Caesar since I have a very strong feeling that they are in fact the roleblocker and we can potentially confscum Notice based on it

everyone else is free to do what they want

[MathBlade]

I want TB to come back online before day end because a lot of my change on notice came from stuff they did in neighbourhood.

Davesaz kill felt like scum in hood because that's the only reason they'd know that he'd be safe. I feel like RB was in fact used on Leon as opposed to them being scum.
Also Notice way too readily allowed me to leash her doc onto me even though she's sort of vague on her read on me and she never brought up the fact that I pulled her off Dave and Dave died?

like that feels weird. nancy scumread me for it at one point in thread and I think it's a reasonable point to have and notice not even bringing it up feels really bad

LUV is confirmed scum but also it really doesn't make sense to me why scum would give me the dayvig over LUV anyway

Alisae felt like wrt LUV's wifoming that they knew they couldn't be shot at. it felt really informed.
I brought that up in neighbourhood and Notice immediately brushed it off and said that there's no way that Alisae could be scum and that feels bad

The whole Caesar/Ali thing has given me bad vibes since the beginning and that feels like exactly the thing that the two players would do
also the fact that scum didn't take the vig and seem to be out of slots WRT not forbidden palacing vig away from me makes me feel like scum wasted slots

and Ali scum makes a lot of sense with the rest of my scumreads even though I TR their play

Gorkington makes the most sense for the last one but is the one that I'm least sure of ftr. he's sort of poe

Vecna and Creature are missing in your list and so is PV.

Ali and Notice are town.

[MathBlade]

Ali neighbourizes me. I am positive I can sort them 1v1 and I want to know for sure that they're scum before I go in that direction

neighbourhood doc and rolestop should be on me since I'm confident both are coming from town and my death costs a mislynch. That does mean giving up CK and I am confident it is worth it
Creature you should roleblock Caesar since I have a very strong feeling that they are in fact the roleblocker and we can potentially confscum Notice based on it

everyone else is free to do what they want

I have no doubt Creature is a roleblocker.

Just not aligned with Town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't need to go through you to kill people who need dead.

I am shooting tomorrow, we can both reevaluate after the flip.

[MathBlade]

I don't need to go through you to kill people who need dead.

I am shooting tomorrow, we can both reevaluate after the flip.

Tomorrow day or night?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not shooting in night phase because it can be roleblocked. We'll see how I feel about Ali and I'll decide whether my scumteam is right or not from there

[Creature]

Once per game, you may target a player during the night to kill them. This ability may also be used during the day phase and will penetrate any protection regardless of when it is used.

[CommKnight]

VOTE: LUV

Math can read between the lines well. LUV dies today and we get our first red.

[RadiantCowbells]

Roleblocks != protection

[RadiantCowbells]

No Math is an idiot because I saw that as well but wasn't obtuse enough to make it public

[MathBlade]

I'm not shooting in night phase because it can be roleblocked. We'll see how I feel about Ali and I'll decide whether my scumteam is right or not from there

Shooting Ali is disastrous to Freedom pick.
No RC.

Like see who scum even kill before announcing potential shots. That can help.