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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:06 am
by MathBlade
And we plan*
Phone die. I will murder you.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:14 am
by Leonshade
{CK, Creature}
{Ali, Math, ThinkBig, Vecna, RadiantCowbells}
{Gorkington, Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai}
{LUV}
So something like that? Or Vecna and Creature are scum and somehow hit the jackpot with their gambit.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:15 am
by Leonshade
UNVOTE:
That scumteam makes no sense. Why would scum!Gorkington try to build the Big Ben?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:17 am
by MathBlade
Vote back on confirmed scum.
You also aren't including PV in your calculations for shame.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:18 am
by MathBlade
Vecna and Creature are scum together and so is PV.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:21 am
by Leonshade
PV is dead, there's no need to include him in calculations.
LUV is not confirmed, he could still be town in the world in which RC is scum. If I'm having difficulty finding a sensible scumteam with LUV, I have to doubt my TRs. And in that situation, I can't bet the game on RC being town. I'll have to sleep on this.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:27 am
by Leonshade
{CK, RC} and three from {PV, Caesar, Gorkington, Senpai} makes more sense to me than Vecna and Creature being scum.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:35 am
by MathBlade
...Leon claims scum
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:38 am
by RadiantCowbells
I have the scumteam solved and it's not vecna/creature leon
just vote the guilty
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:42 am
by RadiantCowbells
i am very, very convinced right now that the scumteam is
Caesar/Notice/LUV/Alisae/Gorkington
by the way
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:43 am
by Creature
Okay, we agree on three things, so we're good.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:49 am
by RadiantCowbells
I want TB to come back online before day end because a lot of my change on notice came from stuff they did in neighbourhood.
Davesaz kill felt like scum in hood because that's the only reason they'd know that he'd be safe. I feel like RB was in fact used on Leon as opposed to them being scum.
Also Notice way too readily allowed me to leash her doc onto me even though she's sort of vague on her read on me and she never brought up the fact that I pulled her off Dave and Dave died?
like that feels weird. nancy scumread me for it at one point in thread and I think it's a reasonable point to have and notice not even bringing it up feels really bad
LUV is confirmed scum but also it really doesn't make sense to me why scum would give me the dayvig over LUV anyway
Alisae felt like wrt LUV's wifoming that they knew they couldn't be shot at. it felt really informed.
I brought that up in neighbourhood and Notice immediately brushed it off and said that there's no way that Alisae could be scum and that feels bad
The whole Caesar/Ali thing has given me bad vibes since the beginning and that feels like exactly the thing that the two players would do
also the fact that scum didn't take the vig and seem to be out of slots WRT not forbidden palacing vig away from me makes me feel like scum wasted slots
and Ali scum makes a lot of sense with the rest of my scumreads even though I TR their play
Gorkington makes the most sense for the last one but is the one that I'm least sure of ftr. he's sort of poe
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:51 am
by RadiantCowbells
Gorkington could be swapped out for like Leon or whoever but if you go back to the Gorkington wagons
Gorkington (7): Leonshade, Vecna, MathBlade, davesaz, Nero Cain, CloudKicker, Lil Uzi Vert
this would be an all town wagon until LUV jumps on at the end when it feels inevitable and given that scum are clearly not bussing the whole thing just feels really right to me
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:52 am
by RadiantCowbells
Like I actually took the time to do VCA from the POV of scum are definitely not bussing this game and everyone in that pile adds up. no one voted each other besides throwaways
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:55 am
by RadiantCowbells
Ali neighbourizes me. I am positive I can sort them 1v1 and I want to know for sure that they're scum before I go in that direction
neighbourhood doc and rolestop should be on me since I'm confident both are coming from town and my death costs a mislynch. That does mean giving up CK and I am confident it is worth it
Creature you should roleblock Caesar since I have a very strong feeling that they are in fact the roleblocker and we can potentially confscum Notice based on it
everyone else is free to do what they want
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:57 am
by MathBlade
In post 18661, RadiantCowbells wrote:I want TB to come back online before day end because a lot of my change on notice came from stuff they did in neighbourhood.
Davesaz kill felt like scum in hood because that's the only reason they'd know that he'd be safe. I feel like RB was in fact used on Leon as opposed to them being scum.
Also Notice way too readily allowed me to leash her doc onto me even though she's sort of vague on her read on me and she never brought up the fact that I pulled her off Dave and Dave died?
like that feels weird. nancy scumread me for it at one point in thread and I think it's a reasonable point to have and notice not even bringing it up feels really bad
LUV is confirmed scum but also it really doesn't make sense to me why scum would give me the dayvig over LUV anyway
Alisae felt like wrt LUV's wifoming that they knew they couldn't be shot at. it felt really informed.
I brought that up in neighbourhood and Notice immediately brushed it off and said that there's no way that Alisae could be scum and that feels bad
The whole Caesar/Ali thing has given me bad vibes since the beginning and that feels like exactly the thing that the two players would do
also the fact that scum didn't take the vig and seem to be out of slots WRT not forbidden palacing vig away from me makes me feel like scum wasted slots
and Ali scum makes a lot of sense with the rest of my scumreads even though I TR their play
Gorkington makes the most sense for the last one but is the one that I'm least sure of ftr. he's sort of poe
Vecna and Creature are missing in your list and so is PV.
Ali and Notice are town.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:58 am
by MathBlade
In post 18664, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ali neighbourizes me. I am positive I can sort them 1v1 and I want to know for sure that they're scum before I go in that direction
neighbourhood doc and rolestop should be on me since I'm confident both are coming from town and my death costs a mislynch. That does mean giving up CK and I am confident it is worth it
Creature you should roleblock Caesar since I have a very strong feeling that they are in fact the roleblocker and we can potentially confscum Notice based on it
everyone else is free to do what they want
I have no doubt Creature is a roleblocker.
Just not aligned with Town.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:58 am
by RadiantCowbells
I don't need to go through you to kill people who need dead.
I am shooting tomorrow, we can both reevaluate after the flip.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:59 am
by MathBlade
In post 18667, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't need to go through you to kill people who need dead.
I am shooting tomorrow, we can both reevaluate after the flip.
Tomorrow day or night?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:01 am
by RadiantCowbells
I'm not shooting in night phase because it can be roleblocked. We'll see how I feel about Ali and I'll decide whether my scumteam is right or not from there
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:02 am
by Creature
In post 13784, Nahdia wrote:Once per game, you may target a player during the night to kill them. This ability may also be used during the day phase and will penetrate any protection regardless of when it is used.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:02 am
by CommKnight
VOTE: LUV
Math can read between the lines well. LUV dies today and we get our first red.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:02 am
by RadiantCowbells
Roleblocks != protection
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:02 am
by RadiantCowbells
No Math is an idiot because I saw that as well but wasn't obtuse enough to make it public
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:03 am
by MathBlade
In post 18669, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not shooting in night phase because it can be roleblocked. We'll see how I feel about Ali and I'll decide whether my scumteam is right or not from there
Shooting Ali is disastrous to Freedom pick.
No RC.
Like see who scum even kill before announcing potential shots. That can help.