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In post 1805, Venmar wrote:The thing with Mastin is that i'm seeing half of his play as part of his scum meta, and the other as part of his town meta. The big posts, even though I think they're not that good, look like his town self, and his general posting looks align with his town mentality. What bugs me is that Mastin enjoys weird and obscure votes on non-momentum wagons / players as scum, and Mastins attitude in his first few posts also look really scummy, not to mention Mastins spur of activity was inspired by the wagon that grew on him which makes him look beetlejuicy. The fact he has receeded back I think means his posting was just response to pressure and wasn't town motivated...

I'll give you a helpful hint: don't try to meta me. Like, seriously. I've been in 120+ games for sure. (Probably more, but not that I can confirm.) Of them, roughly half have been on mastin2. (And another 30 or so on Mastin, and the remaining on hydras and alts which have a different meta.) *I* don't know my meta. (And even if I did, the very act of me being aware of my meta spurns me to change said meta. I constantly evolve my play, and adapt my play to specific games and specific playerlists regardless of alignment. No two games are alike.) If I can't know my own meta, what makes you think that some upstart with only a few games of exposure to me can know it?

That's not to say nobody can get an accurate read on me. You can get townreads and scumreads that are correct, especially if you've hydra'd with me and know my general thought process in a game. But said reads are not based off of meta from two or three random games. Rather, they're based off of in-thread posting, and how I make myself be obvtown or (accidentally, obviously ) obvscum. I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to get an accurate meta read. I am saying that I've never seen anyone GET a successful meta read. Use meta on me, sure. And use it to OBTAIN a read, sure, but not a meta-read itself. (For instance, an example of using meta to GET a read is to point out a generality in my play, "Mastin always does that", and then to explain the town-reasoning and scum-reasoning behind it, and which way the person believes I am leaning, more or less.) Basically, if you're town who's trying to meta me, you're doing it wrong if you expect to get a clear picture of alignment.

There's a reason my MD theory focuses so heavily on the of meta and covering a wide variety of games, emphasizing the strengths of meta (understanding how a player thinks, in general, as scum, and as town), and also the weaknesses (that players evolve/adapt their play and that no two games are identical) of it.

Buuuuut, let me humor you anyway. My scum meta used to be voting on non-momentum lynches, yes, but it's not anymore. My scum meta is more like I focus on players who I see as realistically having a chance at being mislynched, but who're not the dominant wagon. "...Isn't...that...what you're doing with nick?" Yes, it is, admittedly. I don't really have any answer for that, in fact. If you want to base a vote on me off of that pattern, then I have no explanation to it, other than that I'm not scum. I guess I can invent reasons, which're probably true to some extent, but they're still BS. Reasons like "I don't like being on big wagons in general" (which is true, but hasn't really contributed to my play as far as I know), "I adapt successful elements of my scum play into my town play" (which is also true, but again, probably doesn't apply to targetting a secondary-tier lynch person), and such. Yet those are all half-hearted; I really don't have anything to explain that. It's just there, and I'm town.

As for the bit about my activity, check the timestamps. My activity has been consistent without the aid of wagon or no wagon. The exception to this is on weekends, which I have marked as V/LA in my signature for dang-good reasoning. My activity levels have been the same regardless of whether someone has called my name. I'll admit, many of my posts are addressed to people who call out my name, but that's because they're calling out my name and I don't want to ignore them. There's plenty in my posting which isn't about players calling my name, though.

You should sort me out today, though. Don't wait until the night. Believe me, I'm far more likely to be nightkilled than you think, so I wouldn't waste effort trying to read me. You can trust me to be town.