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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:45 am

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I guess I could see that.

The Nati wagon did move pretty quickly which means he wouldn't have had time to get off.

I'll have to re-read. I don't like trusting other people's reads because it's gotten me into trouble before (as you know from the mini we just finished)

Especially your Ika read. I just don't see Ika town.
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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:49 am

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The ika read is the one you should trust the most. Even if you hate it. Look at Beck's push on Nati Day 1.

You know I am town now. My inital mylo read on Boonskiies was right. So yeah.
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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:10 am

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םל דם I אםםל ש נרקשל כרםצ דאוגטןמע שמג I ISOג משאן כםר שדדםבןשאןהק אקךךדץ איק VC ןמ פםשדא 1006 שמג משאן,ד הםאקד שמג אשךל פרןםר אם אישא פםןמא שא PC דבוצת ןצםץ I איןמל נקבל 'שד יםררןנךט אם'מ שךך איק 'שט אירםועי שמג יןד ןמאקרשבאןםמד 'ןאי איק Nשאן דךםא שרק אם'מץ דם Nםת I,צ NOT ךטמביןמע ןלש ןמ איק מקשר כואורקץ דאןךךץ
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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:11 am

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I,ךך רקשג BBT ךשאקר דםםמ
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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:12 am

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oh crap.
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:13 am

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ok so I took a break from studying and I ISOd nati for associative tells. the VC in poast 1006 and nati's votes and talk prior to that point at PC scum, imo. I think beck was horribly town all the way through and his interactions with the Nati slot are town. so No, I'm NOT lynching ika in the near future. still.
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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:13 am

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I'll read BBT later soon
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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:47 am

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BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Green Crayons wrote:
Titus, shos, and Doctor Who were the three I was willing to lynch today.

This post is so conveniently timed.

Hey go fly a kite or read the thread.

First post of today's game day:
Green Crayons wrote:The only thing I don't like about Ika is his repeated insistence that he would self hammer. His slot and his other play looks town to me.

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FF is also probably town, the most glaring indication being his left field conspiracy theory.

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I'm unsure about Doctor still. I still think it's weird that Titus's conversation with Egg, which talked about card cheating, didn't catch his attention and he instead actually said that it was nonsensical. Now that we know scum has the dealer flavor, this actually looks like Doctor purposefully distancing from that flavor (Doctor had no need to specifically highlight the Titus/Egg exchange).

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I'm actually less sure about shos now that we know that scum have the same flavor as VT. His early crumb is now null, as whether he'd down it as town or scum attempting to look like town is 50/50 WIFOM.

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I'll probably vote to lynch out of Titus, shos, or Doctor today. Will need to review play and think about things
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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:50 am

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^^ Correction, not first post of today's game day (memory was mixed up about when I posted this), but definitely early in today's game day.
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:52 am

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Titus wrote:Lol. Yes shos you're confused.

I call bullshit on you being willing to lynch shos GC. You haven't put a lot in the way of him being scummy here.

:roll:

I call bullshit on you being very good at making good cases Titus. This requires me to actually put in work to read through people's play, which I haven't had the time/energy to do w/r/t shos yet.
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:56 am

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Green Crayons wrote:Hey look I read this whole thread. Give me an award.


VOTE: Nati, on the theory of her being bored scum.


Not particularly pleased with it, but I'll need to do extra reading beyond a single read through to have something better.

Bus vote. I am not pleased with voting my buddy and I will jump on anything else that I can.

^^^ That is the translation.

Congratulations. That was indeed my first vote of the game. You have successfully read only part of the thread. That makes you only partially successful at making any sense.

A lot of time passed from my Nati vote in 1390, and I then unvoted Nati, and switched my vote to BBT in . A lot more time pasted, and then BBT and I talked about voting Nati, and which point I switched back to my Nati vote:
Green Crayons wrote:You were very scattered shot in D2 and D3 of that mini, which is what I'm referring to - you were jumping back and forth between a set of players. It doesn't look a lot like your play here.

That said, I'm not super big on the power of meta, and I recognize a sample size of 2 games for a particular player's way of playing the game is not exactly stellar.

UNVOTE: BBT
VOTE: Nat

I'm actually feeling pretty adrift this game, without anything solid. That sucks.


At BBT's urging, I thought a Nati vote was the best of some pretty bleak options. BBT followed my vote shortly thereafter, and that got the foundation of the Nati wagon established.
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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:01 am

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And in your Nati vote again you beg for another wagon to hit. You feel adrift. Not exactly confidence Nati was scum.
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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:09 am

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My two acceptable votes I independently was fine with were Nati and BBT. After some convo with BBT I went with the Nati wagon. Nothing else was better, before or after that decision, and thus I stuck with the Nati vote. I even poked at FF to get him to join the Nati wagon.

You're just making up a narrative of my actions to fit your conclusion that I'm scum, which is a conclusion based on the narrative that you made up. It's really bad circular logic.
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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:37 am

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No. The truth is obvious. You bus as a matter of gee I cannot find anything else better to get off at anytime. Pretty clear.
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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:43 am

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Titus, I will give a shit about what you say after you flip. Until then keep flapping your gums if you'd like.
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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:31 am

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Formerfish wrote:Titus, I will give a shit about what you say after you flip. Until then keep flapping your gums if you'd like.

considering the fact that he has already been hammered, I think this post is INCREDIBLY FUCKING SCUMMY, which fits with my earlier analysis of PC-scum.
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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:50 am

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You've never seen scum ham it up until the end of twilight? Jesus.
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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:04 am

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if titus is town the scum team is BBT/GC

titus think for a second have you ever just considered occam razor about him: that hes just scum being dense?

hes mimicing every step of your scum!play
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:05 am

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at school so i glanced though
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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:21 am

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Occam's razor is GC shos.

BBT is not mimicing my scumplay. Rule 1, do not kill townbeard.
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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:22 am

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Formerfish wrote:You've never seen scum ham it up until the end of twilight? Jesus.

I did, but it's useless, since when scum flips we know that all he said had scum motivation.
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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:22 am

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FF, between this and Harry Potter, you just suck. You have gone 10+ days without voting a scum as town.
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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:26 am

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Titus wrote:Occam's razor is GC shos.

BBT is not mimicing my scumplay. Rule 1, do not kill townbeard.


rule 2: no matter how much someone says they are town you say "your not going to flip town"

he has been doign that all day. he has no town beards, the kills are on masons and PR

shos is probally town titus, now tell me how his sudden of "I want to lynch GC" to "nah i dont want to" makes sense
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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:28 am

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The second reason is because they are town and scum is smart enough to leave them alive.

OK, so you realize that it's good play for scum to keep Titus alive for this exact reason. That's a good start.

I propose that instead of lynching a potential town PR (a very likely town PR) that we lynch inside the many VT claims we have.

Also, why would Titus soft-claim so early on in the game as scum? That seems very dangerous, and unlikely, given she wouldn't know whether her claim would fit with the game or not. It just doesn't make sense.

Green Crayons wrote:
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nobody is joining you on ika. Who else are you looking at?

Either yourself or Shos.


Green Crayons wrote:Bah. Have been mulling the Titus bit over, and though I'm a bit gunshy about it, I think it's probably the best lynch at the moment.

Who else are you willing to look at? You're clearly having second thoughts about this lynch so let's look elsewhere.



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Titus, I don't see GC being scum.


Who else would you consider?


sudden jump from wanting GC to nvm
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:30 am

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but this is all moot really untill we get a flip
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