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In post 1874, Xtoxm wrote:btw who all said the thing about scum having given up is stupid or scum
scum dont give up d1
id still put it >50% scum win this game given all vanilla

yet you're voting me.

In post 1872, NerfedBuJ wrote:I mean you didn't answer my question (I'm asking if you would townread you), but sure let's do that.

Rei and Prince and EE why are you townreading Ali?

That's the ones I remember. Maybe Jingle too.

Anyone else why are you townreading Ali?

I'm not. P sure my vote is on Ali right now.

shouldn't be.

I'll go Vedith if you wanna go there today.

shoshin or bust, shoshin or feed, shoshin or afk, etc, etc.

I'm waiting to reread shoshin and I'm p sure you know that.

Because I said it earlier

i understand.

if prince is town, he is the most likely primed
if hes arso we delete an arso
depriving scum of primed targets gives us extra mislynches and is the best strategy in this game
therefore prince is the best lynch mechanically
jingle back me up

if you want to play against your win condition and attempt to grudge lynch me then fine. it's been established several times that it's not against the MS rules. just be honest to yourself and others about who you are.

In post 1883, Xtoxm wrote:if prince is town, he is the most likely primed
if hes arso we delete an arso
depriving scum of primed targets gives us extra mislynches and is the best strategy in this game
therefore prince is the best lynch mechanically
jingle back me up

"Let's give mafia their nightkill without using their burn limit"

What

Mechanically you are literally helping scum.

So, Shoshin says she focuses trying to be townread as scum.
I guess that explains all this defeatist attitude?

because of the mechanism of the game, lylo-s are weird this game. The asserting "shouldn't be allowed to live till lylo" needs to be taken more seriously.

In post 1883, Xtoxm wrote:if prince is town, he is the most likely primed
if hes arso we delete an arso
depriving scum of primed targets gives us extra mislynches and is the best strategy in this game
therefore prince is the best lynch mechanically
jingle back me up

This is an incorrect application.

Lynching two primed players buys an extra mislynch, yes. However, lynching two primed players is only helpful in the case that there is a reasonable fear that those players are mafia. Lynching 2 players who wouldn't otherwise be lynched because they're likely to be primed does get us a mislynch, but it also wastes two lynches.

The thing to consider is that from scums PoV, they should ignite if we're likely to lynch someone they've already primed. Not the other way around.



Isn't Thigh Draug Draug's wife? Coulda sworn he's married to Nephenee in Path of Radiance.

The fact that Jingle isn't voting Shoshin right now is suspect.

VOTE: Shoshin

More on this when I get back to my computer.

In post 1892, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:The fact that Jingle isn't voting Shoshin right now is suspect.

VOTE: Shoshin

Two problems with that theory. I am voting shoshin. I've had other priorities since BoP ended.

In post 1894, Jingle wrote:

In post 1892, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:The fact that Jingle isn't voting Shoshin right now is suspect.

VOTE: Shoshin

Two problems with that theory. I am voting shoshin. I've had other priorities since BoP ended.

I am refuted. Alas and alack!

In post 1890, DrDolittle wrote:because of the mechanism of the game, lylo-s are weird this game. The asserting "shouldn't be allowed to live till lylo" needs to be taken more seriously.

@mod v/la 3 days till I sort my life out

Not really, you just subtract 2 per day from the most recent ignition. Today instead of being 14v2 we're functionally 13v2. That's 5 Days til LYLO.

But yeah, Shoshin here is very similar to shoshin in BoP, and there are specific posts that I doubt town her makes, particularly while playing in that game.

In post 1874, Xtoxm wrote:btw who all said the thing about scum having given up is stupid or scum
scum dont give up d1
id still put it >50% scum win this game given all vanilla

Setup is probably significantly townsided, actually. Scum needs 6 mislynches, even without the potential fora doc via misprimes. Their advantage is in the lack of flips, but we have enough day phases to make up for it.

In post 1897, Jingle wrote:But yeah, Shoshin here is very similar to shoshin in BoP, and there are specific posts that I doubt town her makes, particularly while playing in that game.

Essentially this

I take back saying that she doesn't try to work with me as town, I think that's unfair, but as scum she treats me how I want to be treated and as town she's too busy playing her own game. I'm fully capable of going into more detail on that but I felt that she was the same alignment between these games the entirety of BOP and the 1/8 odds of being scum in this game is unfortunately one of the reasons I wrote her off as a lynch in that one.

I don't plan on making that mistake twice