In post 1715, UnaBombaH wrote:I can only see two reasons for killing Tanner. And only one of them is sensible in this game-state. -_-
I'll have to re-read it all I guess, but at the very least I have the luxury of getting to pick from a 2/3 scumpool because
I refuse to backtrack on Persivul
.
Puppy/George is obviously the one I'm left with since Prana flipped green after all.
I'll do more work with the ISOs to really feel like I can lock it down before throwing down a vote obviously, but that's where I'm right now.
In post 1726, UnaBombaH wrote:Was George supposed to be the designated mislynch until they realized Persivul was willing to include me in there?
Everyone includes you in there. Why do you single me out?
Because your words carry the most weight around here, since
you are the one and only member of the townblock
.
I was left alive as a wifom move. It's the only play he had left. Considering these quotes, he should have puppy as scum.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:28 am
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 663, UnaBombaH wrote:It just hit me btw.
Assume Persivul really checked mavs.
He risked the fact that there WAS indeed a Vig, and his result would've been for nothing.
Would be in character for una to go for the wifom Gambit on persi imo
In post 1872, UnaBombaH wrote:I dare you to vote me Persi.
If it's scum!puppy, you are not voting there today anyway, what with your FoS and all..
OK. I didn't want to put the replacement in the position of deciding the game, since that sucks and should really be my responsibility, but since you're double dog daring me... VOTE: Una
VOTE: una
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:30 am
by Persivul
I'm town. Puppy?
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:31 am
by CantHateAPuppy
Sorry guys. GG
This was a weird game, subbing in as the only scum in 11:2 on a lurker slot is one of the most unusual situations I've ever been put in
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:33 am
by CantHateAPuppy
Like, I don't think the setup was as bad as some people think, but since I was the only scum and my slot had almost no content,.it almost wasn't mafia
Not the mods fault I think, it wasn't just the setup but the setup plus the inactivity
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:33 am
by UnaBombaH
^^ That's a dirty quote.
That was me assuming it's 10:3.
And if you REALLY stop to think about it - considering that quote - WHY would scum!Una EVER bring you to a LyLo?
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:34 am
by UnaBombaH
Oh, so it was like that.
Good choice leaving Persivul alive.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:35 am
by Persivul
Well played. I always fuck up in lylo, but this time I really thought I had it, especially when una turned on me and dared me on the vote. Looking at you v. una, I doin't feel guilty about this one.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:35 am
by UnaBombaH
Nor should you.
I already said this was one of my worst towngames.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:36 am
by Persivul
In post 1880, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Like, I don't think the setup was as bad as some people think, but since I was the only scum and my slot had almost no content,.it almost wasn't mafia
Not the mods fault I think, it wasn't just the setup but the setup plus the inactivity
Did you have a role, or was the tracker claim on George just a guess?
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:36 am
by CantHateAPuppy
I realized early on that:
* I had to keep una alive or I'd get lynched by POE, so I had to make weak pushes there
* To compensate, I had to believe what I was saying to look convincing, that would only happen if I was having fun, and the only way I could have fun is if I went for wifom paranoia by keeping persi qlive
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:38 am
by CantHateAPuppy
Popo straight up bluffed on the tracker. Scum chat was pretty empty, I'm not sure both scum were ever on at the same phase
So I had a lot of fun but I'm not sure it really "counts"
Originally I wanted to fake JK, a protective role would've been believed I think, but I had to claim something that would plausibly live to f3
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:40 am
by Persivul
That was really excellent scum play. Like I said, I read the ISOs and you really looked good. I was giving you shit at the time, but even at the time I thought that was mainly because I was tunneled on prana.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:43 am
by Persivul
In post 1880, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Like, I don't think the setup was as bad as some people think, but since I was the only scum and my slot had almost no content,.it almost wasn't mafia
Not the mods fault I think, it wasn't just the setup but the setup plus the inactivity
I think the setup was fair, with one caveat - there are so few 11:2 setups, that the extra player doesn't benefit town as much as designers may think, because much of the analysis after the first scum lynch is based on pairs.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:44 am
by CantHateAPuppy
Thanks. I think it was easier because of the layout. Like, maybe d4 when I subbed in some people would have thought I was scum by POE, but nobody would have believed that there was only one scum and it was the lurker slot
I was having a hard time caring when I realized how weird it was and how little chance I had, so I went for the persi paranoia because that was something I thought I could act
Thanks, but still, I suck. I think I'm taking the summer off after the game I'm currently in.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:46 am
by UnaBombaH
Obviously not your fault puppy, but having lurker-slots in the game is always bad for town.
It's harder to consistently fake reads and keep a fake-trajectory going throughout 1-5 days, rather than jump in midgame and just "solve" the game based on flips.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:46 am
by UnaBombaH
Obviously not your fault puppy, but having lurker-slots in the game is always bad for town.
It's harder to consistently fake reads and keep a fake-trajectory going throughout 1-5 days, rather than jump in midgame and just "solve" the game based on flips.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:47 am
by CantHateAPuppy
The hardest kill was n3, had not interacted with anybody so I couldn't predict anything. Had had a few different ideas but I figured Mavs was pretty cleared
Tanner said he would kill me no matter how prana flipped, was worried someone would notice that
George just made sense based on the strategy id played
Thanks, but still, I suck. I think I'm taking the summer off after the game I'm currently in.
I'd love to get back into groove.
I was starting to get into this before my long hiatus.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:50 am
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 1893, UnaBombaH wrote:Obviously not your fault puppy, but having lurker-slots in the game is always bad for town.
It's harder to consistently fake reads and keep a fake-trajectory going throughout 1-5 days, rather than jump in midgame and just "solve" the game based on flips.
I think that was the real problem with this setup
Normally D1 gets a lot of info as slots flip and more info gets filled in. All that was sort of taken away with all the millers and the IC. Reading back never made sense, so everything came to be about D3
I don't think it was a bad setup or wrong to have two Millers, I just think the way it shook out with subs and all made people get tired and cranky
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:50 am
by CantHateAPuppy
Anyways, thanks guys, this was my first game back on MS in 5 years and my first scum game in 6. Had fun and would play with any of you again
Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:52 am
by Persivul
Or maybe I'll play an open if a decent one comes up. I've kind of had it with normals. The setups are too weird lately.
For instance, I've had it with named townies. We had that encryptor whatever it was, plus two millers with no cop. That's three named townies. You could say two, since my role was obviously to confirm one of them. But still, this setup was made just to fuck with town's head.
