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Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:05 pm**

In post 1103, Alisae wrote:@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:05 pm**

In post 1873, Hectic wrote:
Confirming that mafia have daytalk.

But why do you say in the rules all PTs only have night talk?

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:11 pm**

In post 1875, drusilla wrote:
In post 1103, Alisae wrote:@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.

So you seriously think I’m scum, because I’m tilted at your inability to see the obvious? Well, Idk the context but in this game it makes absolutely no sense.

So the fact that I reasonably tilted at you despite everything in my ISO, voting patterns, interactions with Pooky practically screaming through the rooftops I’m beyond bleeding obvtown, you’re totally content to just ignore all of that when I have every goddamned right to be extremely irritated with you here.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:11 pm**

In post 1875, drusilla wrote:
In post 1103, Alisae wrote:@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:12 pm**

In post 1876, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1873, Hectic wrote:
Confirming that mafia have daytalk.
But why do you say in the rules all PTs only have night talk?

This rule states that all groups may converse during the night. It does not state they are forbidden from conversing during the day.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:13 pm**

Okay @drusilla, reread any/preferrably ALL of my ISO/voting patterns/interactions with Pooky and tell me which points to my being scum - I mean other than the fact you obviously don’t like me very much right now. I’ll wait,

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:15 pm**

In post 1878, drusilla wrote:
In post 1875, drusilla wrote:
In post 1103, Alisae wrote:@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:15 pm**

In post 1877, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1875, drusilla wrote:
In post 1103, Alisae wrote:@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.
So you seriously think I’m scum, because I’m tilted at your inability to see the obvious? Well, Idk the context but in this game it makes absolutely no sense.

So the fact that I reasonably tilted at you despite everything in my ISO, voting patterns, interactions with Pooky practically screaming through the rooftops I’m beyond bleeding obvtown, you’re totally content to just ignore all of that when I have every goddamned right to be extremely irritated with you here.

I can play this game too. You’re wrong, End of freaking discussion. So if there’s actually some point to you wrongly confibiasing me here, I’d love to hear it.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:16 pm**

In post 1882, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1877, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1875, drusilla wrote:
In post 1103, Alisae wrote:@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.
So you seriously think I’m scum, because I’m tilted at your inability to see the obvious? Well, Idk the context but in this game it makes absolutely no sense.

So the fact that I reasonably tilted at you despite everything in my ISO, voting patterns, interactions with Pooky practically screaming through the rooftops I’m beyond bleeding obvtown, you’re totally content to just ignore all of that when I have every goddamned right to be extremely irritated with you here.

I can play this game too. You’re wrong, End of freaking discussion. So if there’s actually some point OTHER than to you wrongly confibiasing me here, I’d love to hear it.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:18 pm**

In post 1834, Ydrasse wrote:...okay but i literally just played a game where i was willing to like. go to the death against my partner. we did not coordinate it but it still happened like that.

if we have confirmation that scum didn't have a chance to talk i will feel more comfortable accepting that case as it is but even in the absence of any sort of day-talking it can still happen.

p-edit: ...

@ydrasse; wrt 1830, i don't think it's very likely scum bus like this when they're not in danger/there's no need to, and so comfortably too. it looks to me like pooky found something everyone else was pushing and wanted to take advantage of the situation

my point about the deadline hammer is that scum!taylor had no reason to not fake being afk and letting the timer run out. this would result in a no-lunch and scum can execute isis.

i think those 2 points are good enough for us to save taylor and kill everyone around her which would win the game if she's town. who do you think is scum rn? what do you think we should do?

i don't want to end the game until ydrasse catches up so she has fun too

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:18 pm**

In post 1880, Loki Dokie wrote:Okay @drusilla, reread any/preferrably ALL of my ISO/voting patterns/interactions with Pooky and tell me which points to my being scum - I mean other than the fact you obviously don’t like me very much right now. I’ll wait,

I have all fucking night. And I can post this as much as you continue to wrongly call me scum, just because you’re pissed at me now.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:28 pm**

In post 1884, Kanna wrote:
In post 1834, Ydrasse wrote:...okay but i literally just played a game where i was willing to like. go to the death against my partner. we did not coordinate it but it still happened like that.

if we have confirmation that scum didn't have a chance to talk i will feel more comfortable accepting that case as it is but even in the absence of any sort of day-talking it can still happen.

p-edit: ...
@ydrasse; wrt 1830, i don't think it's very likely scum bus like this when they're not in danger/there's no need to, and so comfortably too. it looks to me like pooky found something everyone else was pushing and wanted to take advantage of the situation

my point about the deadline hammer is that scum!taylor had no reason to not fake being afk and letting the timer run out. this would result in a no-lunch and scum can execute isis.

i think those 2 points are good enough for us to save taylor and kill everyone around her which would win the game if she's town. who do you think is scum rn? what do you think we should do?

i don't want to end the game until ydrasse catches up so she has fun too

i... guess so? i'm probably pushing my own experiences on this game but even if there's no reason to you still can? i know i am the ass in this situation not rereading and just acting in the moment but gah.

the safest way to vote right now is n_m, probably; he was prodded but i dunno if we'll get much from him regardless. uh. from there i would be lying if i said i felt completely comfortable self-voting myself. i get the idea behind it especially from the eyes of the confirmed of the odds being better to vote here, but to me it's 33% across the board and i don't think that everything that's happened confirms taylor as town. loki is... being very stubborn though, about this, and i get it because i have the same frustrations of being in the unconfirmed pair and to me it also feels like we're being set up but it's very... aggressive right now.

i don't have a good answer for you really other than i think that, to me, it makes sense to start with nm if he doesn't show up/say much and go from there.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:30 pm**

In post 1885, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1880, Loki Dokie wrote:Okay @drusilla, reread any/preferrably ALL of my ISO/voting patterns/interactions with Pooky and tell me which points to my being scum - I mean other than the fact you obviously don’t like me very much right now. I’ll wait,
I have all fucking night. And I can post this as much as you continue to wrongly call me scum, just because you’re pissed at me now.

And fyi @Dru by your logic, you would actually have to be scum here, because I feel extremely demoralized by you right now because absolutely nothing in any of my ISO/voting patterns/Pooky interactions points even remotely to my being scum and why tf do you honestly think I shouldn’t care that you’re blithely confibiasing me despite all of that? Why the he’ll wouldn’t anyone be beyond frustrated by that?

I will tell you this, when whomever is scum here eventually gets revealed, they had better fucking not talk to me, for subjecting me to this garbage.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:37 pm**

In post 1884, Kanna wrote:
In post 1834, Ydrasse wrote:...okay but i literally just played a game where i was willing to like. go to the death against my partner. we did not coordinate it but it still happened like that.

if we have confirmation that scum didn't have a chance to talk i will feel more comfortable accepting that case as it is but even in the absence of any sort of day-talking it can still happen.

p-edit: ...
@ydrasse; wrt 1830, i don't think it's very likely scum bus like this when they're not in danger/there's no need to, and so comfortably too. it looks to me like pooky found something everyone else was pushing and wanted to take advantage of the situation

my point about the deadline hammer is that scum!taylor had no reason to not fake being afk and letting the timer run out. this would result in a no-lunch and scum can execute isis.

i think those 2 points are good enough for us to save taylor and kill everyone around her which would win the game if she's town. who do you think is scum rn? what do you think we should do?

i don't want to end the game until ydrasse catches up so she has fun too

I’m not having fun and it’s a damn shame too, because I totally was before scum put me in one of the unconfirmed spots and I - despite every godddamn thing in my freaking ISO/voting patterns/interactions with Pooky are so obviously beyond bleeding obvtown, I’m seriously pissed. I don’t think there’s a game anywhere in existence where I’ve been more super obvtown than this and STILL being wrongly scumread. I wish I was because if I actually was scum here, I wouldn’t subject myself to another second of this bullshit but I’m not and I don’t want to gamethrow.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:43 pm**

In post 1886, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 1884, Kanna wrote:
In post 1834, Ydrasse wrote:...okay but i literally just played a game where i was willing to like. go to the death against my partner. we did not coordinate it but it still happened like that.

if we have confirmation that scum didn't have a chance to talk i will feel more comfortable accepting that case as it is but even in the absence of any sort of day-talking it can still happen.

p-edit: ...
@ydrasse; wrt 1830, i don't think it's very likely scum bus like this when they're not in danger/there's no need to, and so comfortably too. it looks to me like pooky found something everyone else was pushing and wanted to take advantage of the situation

my point about the deadline hammer is that scum!taylor had no reason to not fake being afk and letting the timer run out. this would result in a no-lunch and scum can execute isis.

i think those 2 points are good enough for us to save taylor and kill everyone around her which would win the game if she's town. who do you think is scum rn? what do you think we should do?

i don't want to end the game until ydrasse catches up so she has fun too
i... guess so? i'm probably pushing my own experiences on this game but even if there's no reason to you still can? i know i am the ass in this situation not rereading and just acting in the moment but gah.

the safest way to vote right now is n_m, probably; he was prodded but i dunno if we'll get much from him regardless. uh. from there i would be lying if i said i felt completely comfortable self-voting myself. i get the idea behind it especially from the eyes of the confirmed of the odds being better to vote here, but to me it's 33% across the board and i don't think that everything that's happened confirms taylor as town. loki is... being very stubborn though, about this, and i get it because i have the same frustrations of being in the unconfirmed pair and to me it also feels like we're being set up but it's very... aggressive right now.

i don't have a good answer for you really other than i think that, to me, it makes sense to start with nm if he doesn't show up/say much and go from there.

I’m never this agressive when I’m scum because I lack the conviction that I do especially when I know that nothing I’ve posted, voting patterns, Pooky interactions make an iota of sense if I’m scum here, which is why I’m so pissed.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:44 pm**

I think drusilla is probably naked quoting because you've fallen below standards for decency and mutual respect to the point it's not exactly fair to expect thorough responses.

You seem at least half aware of being toxic which is an improvement over truly oblivious players but it'd be much better if you stopped.

There's no misread in any setup that deprives any player of the right to be respected, even if you scumread Mother Theresa.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:00 pm**

In post 1890, Isis wrote:I think drusilla is probably naked quoting because you've fallen below standards for decency and mutual respect to the point it's not exactly fair to expect thorough responses.

You seem at least half aware of being toxic which is an improvement over truly oblivious players but it'd be much better if you stopped.

There's no misread in any setup that deprives any player of the right to be respected, even if you scumread Mother Theresa.

She’s saying that makes me scum and I’m not.

I don’t feel she’s trying to make a genuine effort in engaging me anymore, not that that justifies my reactions but I’m clearly not wrong about this. so, no I don’t feel I deserve being scumread here, regardless of what you or anyone else think about my behaviour.

That said, I’m extremely unhappy that I was put into this position because I was having so much fun beforehand. If you or anyone else thinks I’m actually happy about any of this, you couldn’t be more wrong.

That said, I truly do feel bad about my reactions for all of the reasons you said and I 100% agree with you. This is of course no justification but I am human and don’t always conduct myself like I think I should. I’m not making excuses, just responding to the part about thinking I have that right when I definitely don’t.

So if I once again profusely apologize no one will care or believe me anyway and that totally sucks, because it’s so beyond unfair for everyone involved, except for maybe the person who’s actually responsible for making this a reality. Again, no excuse but it’s seriously really easy for you and Dru to judge me when you are NOT in my position, so I think you’re being really insensitive here.

Not that I disagree with anything you’ve said but yeah both you and Dru are being extremely insensitive and unempathethic. I realize that my reaction clearly didn’t help bring that about and clearly had the opposite effect and I stand by everything I’m saying here.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:05 pm**

In post 1878, drusilla wrote:
In post 1875, drusilla wrote:
In post 1103, Alisae wrote:@Bugs if you feel demoralized because of a certain player, that player is scum.
Period.
End of discussion.

@Isis, please be fair here, how is she deliberately not baiting me with this? Tell me that she’s not trying to deliberately provoke me here?

Yes, the things I said were not okay but if you think there’s any world where this is okay, then you’re 100% being very unfair to me. :/

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:30 pm**

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:45 pm**

I’m sorry for anything I’ve done that could possibly be considered either toxic, rude, insulting, burtful, demoralizing, etc.

That wasn’t okay and I’m in no way saying it was. If Dru does continue to deliberately bait with that post and continue to try to provoke a reaction out of me, I will just have to bite my tongue and ignore it. I apologize for making you feel that way @Drusilla but it’s totally not okay you keep baiting/provoking me with that post.

I am not scum and it is extremely upsetting for me to be this obvtown and still getting scumread. If either you or Isis can try to put yourselves in my position for even a moment, that would be swell.

This game is now officially ruined for me no matter what happens.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:46 pm**

In post 1802, Isis wrote:Ydrasse hasn't made a post that's fully cognizant of the gamestate in like a week

In post 1806, Isis wrote:VOTE: Ydrasse because I miss seeing plusJOYED

VOTE: ydrasse

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:47 pm**

In post 1810, Isis wrote:
In post 1808, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1806, Isis wrote:VOTE: Ydrasse because I miss seeing plusJOYED
Didn’t you already vote her? You need one of me/Ydrasse/NM for the hammer, right?
yes but I think if I revote plusJOYED might quote it and vote and then I get to see his chipper face

Not everything I do is for wincon.

the lower the percentage of your play that's for wincon, the more fun you have

c:
sorry im letting you do the thinking here isis since im bad at it

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:51 pm**

one wacky idea i have is letting maf choose the first condemnation for analysis
but that's probably bad idea
im a lil sus of loki atm but that's all gut

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:13 pm**

In post 1897, PlusJOYED wrote:one wacky idea i have is letting maf choose the first condemnation for analysis
but that's probably bad idea
im a lil sus of loki atm but that's all gut

What makes you think that this is a condemnation and not an execution?

I reccomend some TUMs Gummies in that case.

I’m 100% flipping town, bank on it.

1)I didn’t know when the recruitment happened.
2) I put Pooky at E-2 D1.
3) I voted Pooky at E-2 D3
4) No one will listen but scum!me doesn’t align with unconfirmed Ydrasse. (If there’s an inoffensive way of saying I’m not a braindead idiot, please substitute it for that.)
5) I’m very likely right about NM. Check out my VCA on why it makes the most sense on you being confirmed because of that.
6) I don’t get aggressive like this as scum.
7)Contrary to what it looks like, I’m not a freaking masochist and I100% would be if I was scum and hadn’t given up yet.
8)Ask me anything and I’m sure I will make you see you’re wrong about that. I would offer further attempts to solve but I just feel I’m not getting listened to no matter what I say right now, because I’ve already explained why it makes absolutely no sense for me to be scum based on every single thing I’ve done/that’s happened in the game thus far and for me to be this blatantly obvtown and still be scumread is really disheartening.

I honestly don’t know what to do anymore short of pulling a Varsoon and risk getting temp banned. Don’t worry I won’t do that. It was really wrong what he did but I think I can really empathize eventhough he really ought to have known better.

Posted: **Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:26 pm**

im gonna hammer. fmpov this is solved. im a little concerned that people are doubting that its NM, so im kinda tempted to say we have to lunch isis today. none of lokis actions today make any sense as scum. loki is 100% town here.

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